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08-15-2006, 11:12 AM | #1 | |
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08-15-2006, 12:07 PM | #2 |
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Ford, Ford, Ford... sigh. I hope to God they don't suck Mazda down the toilet w/ themselves...
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08-15-2006, 04:29 PM | #3 |
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ford just a share holder mazda is still hodling their own design and use few ford parts which i think it will be better for repair cost if we ever need a repair
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08-15-2006, 04:40 PM | #4 |
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So basically we are looking at the next-gen platform that like 80% of all FoMoCo cars/cross-overs will be based on for the foreseeable future.
Good job Ford in putting all your eggs in one backet! Who wants to bet that the next-gen 6 will be quite a bit heavier than the current one simply because the platform will be used on sooo many other vehicles (including ones a decent amount bigger than the 6)? :cough: Nissan :cough: |
08-15-2006, 04:42 PM | #5 |
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Uhh, they had a chance to get rid of those butt-nasty tails and decided to leave them. That was really the only gripe I (along with many others) had about the car. What a shame. Oh well, I guess it works for them though...
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08-15-2006, 04:50 PM | #6 |
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theyre gonna make it BIGGER?!
My car's friggin HUGE enough!! |
08-15-2006, 04:55 PM | #7 | |
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08-15-2006, 05:01 PM | #8 | |
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08-15-2006, 05:05 PM | #9 | |
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08-15-2006, 05:14 PM | #10 | |
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The 6 should stay smaller, as should the Legacy. Size will not help them handle better or weight less or get better gas mileage. I am just so god damn sick of cars getter bigger every time they get redesigned. Ugh! |
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08-15-2006, 05:20 PM | #11 |
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08-15-2006, 06:12 PM | #12 |
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Here is a concept sketch.
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08-15-2006, 06:17 PM | #13 |
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Oooh, I like that sketch. Give me one of those in an AWD hatch please.
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08-15-2006, 06:20 PM | #14 |
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Wow..nice.
Very RX-8ish. Mazda 6 should stay as it is... it still has more interior volume than the Leg or any car in it's class. |
08-15-2006, 06:25 PM | #15 | |
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And on another point: "Ford’s CD3-2 platform is expected to underpin the new 6 (a derivation of the CD-3), meaning that it will share its skeletal bits with Mazda’s own Tribute," When I think of sporty sedan, I always hope it has the underpinnings of a low-end SUV. To think: I was thinking about a MS6, then backed out because I hated the styling changes from the '05s. The 05's were an agressive looking sporty sedan in the V6 sport trim. I wanted the AWD, and was delighted when I heard about the MS6...."turbo AND AWD...buh bye WRX". But then when I saw it it was like "snooze". Now, it looks like they're taking a step in the wrong direction. Larger, and more boring. Boo! |
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08-16-2006, 08:42 AM | #16 | ||
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I don't understand why Ford doing platform sharing is any worse than every other car company using platform sharing. |
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08-16-2006, 09:45 AM | #17 | |
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Actually, I'm thinking of "downsizing" to a WRX or even a Legacy. |
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08-16-2006, 10:19 AM | #18 | |
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When done right, platform sharing can save a ton of $$$ - but when trying to make one platform usable for sporty cars, family sedans, cross-overs, as well as SUVs, then you are probably gonna have to make major compromises. |
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08-16-2006, 11:12 AM | #19 | |
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1) RWD Lincoln LS/Jaguar platform. 2) FWD (US)Focus platform (proprietary). 3) FWD/AWD Escape/Tribute platform. 4) FWD/AWD Fusion/Mazda 6 platform. 5) FWD/AWD FiveHundred/Freestyle platform. 6) RWD Crown Vic platform 7) RWD Mustang platform. So, if they replace the Fusion and Mazda 6 with a new shared platform and incorporate the Escape/Tribute (likely because they want them larger to compete with the supersized Rav4 and CRV), I don't see the friggin problem, or how they're, in any way, putting all their eggs in one basket. So I ask again, why is it bad when Ford uses platform sharing?? |
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08-16-2006, 11:38 AM | #20 | |
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08-16-2006, 02:04 PM | #22 |
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The Ford Fusion , Mazda 6 , and Mazdaspeed6 , Mercury Milan , and Lincoln Zepher , as well as the Jag Type S all share the same platform.
Along with those cars, the Ford Freestyle , and Ford Edge and Linchn MKX and the Mazda CX9 all have a platform that is related in one way or another. I believe that the Mazda minivan also shared a modified Mazda6 platform. Same might be the case for one of the mid-sized Volvos. And I am sure tht there are other non-USDM cars that I am not gonna bother with. And then the article above says that the next version of this platform is also going to support the next 6, but also the next Tribute, Escape and Mariner (as well as others). Guess what is going to happen to the Tribute/Escape/Mariner to fit on this platform? They are going to have to grow in size and weight. That is one hell of a range of vehicles for one platform to be able to support - compromises must be made, and usually that involves making the smaller models bigger to fit the platform, and also heavier (becuase the platform has to be beefy enough to support the bigger SUV models). Once again, platform sharing can be a great way to save cash, but can also be taken too far. |
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08-16-2006, 02:13 PM | #24 |
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Hadaz...you're wrong on a couple. The Jag S-Type is RWD & is on the Lincoln LS platform, sharing only the basic Duratec V6 with the Mazda6 platform (although Jag did their own tuning to the engine).
The Freestyle (& Five Hundred & Montego) are AWD & based on the Volvo S80. The LS replacement, will also be on this platform. Last edited by gdspc; 08-16-2006 at 02:48 PM. |
08-16-2006, 02:41 PM | #25 | |
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I would have traded to a Legacy already if they had a bigger backseat. The Legacy is just barely larger than an Impreza on the inside. The difference is so small I am really don't know why they have a separate model. The Accord and Camry are much larger in terms of back seat room, and that is at least part of the reason they outsell the Legacy and 6 ten to one. The thing you guys have to remember is that there a lot more of us family dudes than you punk kids, and we have more money to spend, too. So we get targteted by the manufacturers. |
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