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11-18-2009, 11:14 AM | #1 |
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Dyno Tune: 08 WRX 2.5L with TD06 18G 8CM^2 Makes 285.6 WHP
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Location: Speed Industry, Troy, MI Ambient Temp: ~ 54 Degrees F Elevation: 748 FT above sea level Weather: Sunny Tires: Stock Bridgestone Potenza RE92A 205/50R17 Car: 2008 WRX Sedan Tuner: Tony Dyno Info: Mustang Peak HP at RPM: 285.6 @ 5950 RPM Peak Torque at RPM: 288.3 @ 4700 RPM Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: I don't have the numbers for a stock 08, but stock 09 WRX 2.5L is 209 HP @ 6000 RPM and 225 ft-lb @ 3800 RPM Target Boost: 22 psi Target AFR: unkown Fuel: 93 Octane Power Modifications: Deadbolt TD06 18G 8cm^2, AEM Cold Air Intake, Perrin Top Mount Intercooler, Perrin Turbo Inlet, Perrin Up Pipe, Perrin Catted Down Pipe, SPT Catback Exhaust, SI TGV deletes, SI Electronic Boost Control Solenoid Driveline Modifications: Kartboy short throw shifter, Kartboy front shifter bushings, Whiteline rear differential inserts Suspension Modifications: SPT spings, Whiteline 24mm Adj. Front Sway Bar, Whiteline 22mm Adj Rear Sway Bar Other Modifications: None
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11-18-2009, 11:42 AM | #2 |
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man that's a low reading dyno! get it to the track and see what kind if #'s it puts down in the 1/4.
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11-18-2009, 11:49 AM | #3 | |
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I'd love to get it to the track, but it wouldn't be a good judge of the car's abilities as I have never run a 1/4 mile before. The shop owner guessed, based on his dyno, that the car put down around 360 at the crank. |
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11-18-2009, 11:56 AM | #4 |
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Looks good, but the torque curve looks a little funky from 3200-4200, and you should be seeing peak torque (or nearly) almost 1k RPMs sooner.
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11-18-2009, 12:18 PM | #5 | |
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I'm not sure what would cause the torque curve to move over like that, any ideas on what out of the ordinary might cause that? |
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11-18-2009, 01:14 PM | #6 |
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Hella lop-sided turbo. IMHO, the TD06 is too big for the 18G, even more so with a 8cm^2 housing. Not trying to bash your setup, I'm sure its a blast to drive.
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11-18-2009, 01:24 PM | #7 | |
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Don't worry, no offense taken. I just wanted to make sure that it didn't indicate a problem. I have learned I just have to drive it a bit different than the stock TD04 when I want to get on it. It certainly does make getting on the freeway a ton of fun, and the amount of pull it still has in 5th gear blows me away. |
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11-19-2009, 10:57 AM | #8 |
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I have a db 18g. Love it. Good numbers
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11-19-2009, 11:09 AM | #9 |
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I have the fp but just as fun.
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11-19-2009, 11:15 AM | #10 |
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IIRC stg2 '04-'07 STi puts down 240-260whp on that dyno. My '05 WRX put down 198whp/202lb-ft on an STX auto-x map. I think the tuner, Tony, put down ~350whp on his own STi and it was running somewhere in the 11's in the 1/4 mile.
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11-19-2009, 02:37 PM | #11 |
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When is the targeted 22psi seen? The number don't look bad when considering what a stock STI puts down on that dyno. Just an FYI, I had a blouch 18G 8cm^2 turbo on my 02 2.0 WRX and hit peak torque (20psi) at 3700rpm. Did you adjust the wastegate actuator any?
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11-19-2009, 02:44 PM | #12 |
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Great numbers in comparison to a stg2 sti on the same dyno, but Im with the others on your late torque curve.
My 2.5L with a td06-18g 7cm. Makes peak torque at around 3600 |
11-19-2009, 03:22 PM | #13 | |
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I do wonder what kind of differences I would see with those changes. I'm still in the learning stages with all this stuff so I will admit I don't totally understand all of it. EDIT: As an additional thought, what kind of difference would one expect from the 8CM^2 on my turbo vs the 7CM^2 on your turbo, would that push the torque curve to the right some? |
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11-19-2009, 03:27 PM | #14 | |
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I think DuckStu is making just over 300whp on SI's dyno with an 18g in his STi, but part of that is a built bottom end and different heads. |
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11-19-2009, 03:56 PM | #15 |
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you're also knocking/pulling timing after peak torque, and your 7cm hotside is out of gas before 6k. 7cm vs 8cm definitely makes a difference.
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11-19-2009, 05:06 PM | #16 |
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Ya, up top the MAF is maxed out, stock intake, so we had to ease off the boost. Pretty drastic drop in power up top.
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11-19-2009, 05:19 PM | #17 |
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11-19-2009, 05:34 PM | #18 |
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Not FALSE, maybe difference in opinion but not FALSE.
The TD06 is much much larger than most give it credit, its the same wheel Greddy puts on there T67(TD06-25G) which has similar capacity to a GT30R. Just think some of these turbo vendors made a TD06-16G, that turbo is joke. A TD04L-16G would be a better fit for the compressor. All these 2.5L guys have been believing the hype for years that they 'need' the TD06 which in fact a TD05H WILL make as much power on a 2.5L & more than likely have a better powerband due to quicker boost response. Granted the TD05H boost will fall off a bit more up top, however there's other ways to make power other than just boost. |
11-20-2009, 03:19 AM | #19 |
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I am not trying to be a jerk but I'm going to call it as I see it. You have a 18g car making less horsepower then a vf43 car. Something is wrong.
280awhp on 18g is not good numbers. I've yet to see a single STi make less then 300awtq on a stage 2. It's about 75whp off from what it should be seeing. Is it running stupid rich or something the boost is there. if a 265hp 09 makes 209 thats pretty damn close to what a dyno jet puts out. I would look into whats wrong with the car. Testes1010 on a 2.5 peak hp wise the td06 will make more up top. I don't have the dyno charts in front of me but I am pretty sure that it does spool later. |
11-20-2009, 08:26 AM | #20 | |
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11-20-2009, 04:23 PM | #21 |
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I know it is a low reading dyno and that is a td06 but... I was expecting a little better spool!
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11-20-2009, 05:06 PM | #22 | |
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Why is it every time someone has a less then expected power return its because it was such and such dyno. . You gave the benchmark and I have local 09 dynos from the dynojet at IPS and they match.
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Thats a 2.0 with a vf39. Stock STi 215-230 stock 2.0 165-180 But what do I know. BTW it was not tuned off the sniffer it was off the lc-1. |
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11-20-2009, 05:26 PM | #23 | |
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I am not trying to be combative, and am admitedly a newb at this, so correct me if I am wrong, but the dyno plot says E85, I was under the impression that yeilds significantly more power than 93oct. |
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11-20-2009, 07:03 PM | #24 |
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35whp and over 50wtq by running e85 on my car with a vf39"Smaller then a 18"
I make 300awhp/28xawtq on 93 octane at 19lbs I make 335awhp/333awtq on e85 at 22lbs 360 at the crank is low as hell for your setup is my point. You should be seeing closer to 360whp. To each there own. enjoy your ride. I just hope something is not majorly wrong with it. |
11-25-2009, 10:34 PM | #25 |
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I think people can't get around these facts...
1. low reading dyno 2. CATTED downpipe, and SPT exhaust 3. big hot side All equals much worse spool and maybe 10% less power all over. This argument will end as soon as the OP makes his first 1/4 mile. Trap speeds will shut people up. Oh, and on this dyno, subaru's max out their maf's at 330whp. |
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