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02-13-2011, 08:29 AM | #1 | |
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Are Fat People Driving Up The Price Of Gas? Are They The Source Of The Greenhouse Eff
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02-13-2011, 10:13 AM | #2 |
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I figure after we get done ripping cigarettes out of peoples mouths we will go after salt and sugar. You know for the greater good of all.
Your darn cheeseburgers are costing me money. While we are at it why do we need cars that go faster then the speed limit, its illegal anyways. We can create some more goverment agencies to manage our lives. Since most cant handle it themselves it just costs the rest money. We will create a superior race with blue eyes, blonde hair, perfect weight, hey wait wasnt this done before............We are much smarter today this can never happen again. Good thing food is cheap. We can create a food tax to force people to consume less. This tax can then buy food for the poor and pay for medical for the obese. This way we dont have to pay for it. There was a study in the 70s that concluded that if everyone took their golf bags out of the trunk of their cars we could save millions of gallons of fuel every year. Now the trunks on cars are to small to leave your clubs in the car. |
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No way, they'll always let the cars go faster than the speed limit so they can get the revenue from speeding tickets.
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This article is absurd. So a fat person that weighs 50-100lbs more than an average person is driving up the price of gas? What about the fact that most cars now are morbidly obese; they weigh 500-1000lbs more than they did 20 years ago!
Besides, in my experience a lot of fat people like smaller cars, I see so many obese Mini owners! |
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02-13-2011, 12:26 PM | #6 |
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Correlation != causation.
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But yeah, correlation does not equal causation. Our strange CAFE loop holes and tax breaks for light trucks have caused their rise in number more than fatty demand. |
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Where did this data came from? The EPA fuel economy test cycles have changed since back then. Brake specific fuel consumption is WAY down since then with modern fuel injection systems. Vehicles have also gotten heavier because they have to meet much tougher safety standards.
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You: "So a fat person that weighs 50-100lbs more than an average person is driving up the price of gas?" 2nd sentence of article: "The Washington think tank’s study examined “the unexplored link between the prevalence of overweight and obesity and vehicle demand” for bigger and more gas guzzling cars." I'm also not argueing the accuracy of the article only what it states. |
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I feel that the article is generally correct. If someone is 5'6" and over 200 pounds a narrow car just won't feel good. The thing about our country is our percentage of income spent on food is probably an overall low percentage. In Mexico, someone will spend a greater percentage of there income on food, so they are less inclined to eat more, and I would say that this is the case in most parts of the world.
I've been trying to eat according to the calories I need and I've been saving a ton of money, but man I have been hungry! |
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Makes sense. Fat people take up more space in general and weight is an enemy of fuel economy.
Put down the cheeseburger fatty. |
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02-14-2011, 09:53 AM | #16 |
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While there is probably a grain of truth in this it's also true that unlike in Asian countries you have people that are routinely over 6'. How many Asians are there in the NFL and NBA? 2?
Yes Americans are fat, yes we need to lose weight but that is not the sole motivating factor for purchasing a larger car. Americans travel and commute a lot, you want a roomy and comfortable car for that. Also I'm guessing it's the "getting more for your money" syndrome, like COSTCO, super stores, etc. We like a good deal, bigger is better, just ask Texas. One of the fattest guys I know, easily 300lb and maybe 5' 9" drives a 2 door Yaris. Go figure. |
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We now refer to those people as "American Sized people"
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They are definitely ruining car seats.
At this point we may as well go back to bench seats in the front. |
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But yes, there are fat people who drive smaller cars rather than behemoths. But chances are, those smaller cars are lighter to begin with and have less peppy motors intended for fuel economy, not pulling power. So if you're by yourself, the car moves around just fine, but once there is more load on the engine, it gets a bit more difficult. For example, my girlfriend has a Corolla that she uses for her daily commute from OC to LA, and she'll usually see something like 34-35 mpg. But when we took it to Vegas with four people, it went down to 30-31 mpg. Obviously a fat person doesn't weight the same as four people, but it's like the little car is lugging around a lot more and losing mpg on a constant basis. And then there are the fat people who buy bigger cars to have more space, and while the car will be able to hustle their fat asses around without breaking a sweat, they're already in a vehicle that probably doesn't do better than 22 mpg. Also, let's not forget that fat people tend to be warmer than thinner people, so they typically keep the A/C on blast the whole time. Even more load on the engine. My boss is 6'5" and weighs 300 pounds (yes, he's fat, not just tall) and constantly complains about how hot he is, as his car always has the A/C on, and I turn mine on when he rides in my car (though I rarely use it since I'm generally fine). We keep the A/C running at the office while he has a fan on his desk blowing at his face. Meanwhile, everyone else is usually cold at the same time. Speaking of whom, my boss is really into motorcycles and has four, maybe five bikes. I know one of them is one of those Yamaha Vino scooters that are advertised as getting upwards of 100 mpg, though he said that when he drives it, it's more like 70-80 mpg. While he's definitely consuming much less gas than a car or truck does while riding on it, it's not like he drives it everyday to work. I think it has less than 500 miles on the odometer, and he's had it for at least four years. So again, you can see the impact that weight has. I remember when the SRT-4s first came out, I test drove one, and the salesman was probably not much different in size than yours. He could barely squeeze into it, and I could definitely feel the engine working harder, as I test drove another SRT-4 later that day at another dealership to see what it could really do with half of the weight inside the car. I definitely noticed a difference. |
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There's definately truth to it. Larger people buy larger vehicles in general. We have a lot of fatties in Canada but we are nowhere close to the US as far as obesity goes. Hence the best selling cars in Canada are all compacts not fullsize. There's more to it in regards to our higher taxes and less disposable income but Canadians tend to have similar tastes to Europeans in that we like small hachback cars and even little cars like the Fit.
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02-14-2011, 04:21 PM | #21 | |
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It would be nice if somebody who works at a full-line manufacturers dealership (ie. Ford or GM, where there are trucks, suvs, and all sizes of car) could chime in on this. |
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02-14-2011, 06:50 PM | #22 |
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I worked at a Toyota dealership for a bit under a year around the time when the current Tundras launched. My recollection matches the assumptions that we had regarding the correlation between the size of the drivers and the cars that they ended up purchasing.
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People that are morbidly obese should not need another reason to lose weight... they should just lose it. Dying early not enough? jeeze.
I'm not sure if this article is substantiated in any way but I do know that it will only make obese people say "screw you!, I'll eat what I want" not " OH no... I should eat less and save the environment!" BTW that girl at the top of this thread would be hot if she lost weight. -Mike. |
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And I'm sure if she weren't ugly, she'd be pretty haha. |
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Sounds like alot of auto manufacturers need to take into account the size of the average american. Mini did this, Subaru did not. My cooper has more front passenger leg and shoulder room than my impreza and my (ex) forester.
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