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03-06-2013, 01:06 AM | #1 |
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Need Help With Bill Of Sale
Im located in MA and selling my sti next Tuesday to a private party. I was wondering if there was a specific way I can write up the bill of sale so i do not need to warranty it. Nothing is wrong with the vehicle but i don't want the guy going beating the **** out of it so i have to fix it or take it back. any input would help!
Thanks, Kevin
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03-06-2013, 02:35 AM | #2 |
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just write 'vehicle sold as is, no warranty expressed or implied' on the bill of sale with all your info and the buyers info and the price.....make and keep a coopy and ya done....get it notarized if ya skeerd
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03-06-2013, 02:53 AM | #3 |
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yeap dude is spot on. take photos of it too. maybe even make a video of it in the condition it was in prior to the sale showing that there was nothing wrong with it. Also it never hurts to get a 100 point inspection. paid for by the buyer of course. i did it for my STI. best 115 bucks i ever spent.
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03-06-2013, 07:15 AM | #4 | |
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If you want to protect yourself, get the car inspected tomorrow. A record of a passing test would help your case if he has to return it. As an ease on your mind, I had someone want to return a car once. They decided that they could not afford it and so tried to say that all kinds of things were wrong. He did not fail inspection......so he had nothing to stand on. This is all on the MassDot RMV site. |
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03-06-2013, 07:44 AM | #5 |
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03-06-2013, 07:49 AM | #6 | |
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03-06-2013, 07:53 AM | #7 |
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i dont live in mass, but get it inspected, list all things that fail in the bill of sale and have him sign it?
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03-06-2013, 08:06 AM | #8 |
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If a vehicle can't pass inspection you have to sell it "As is - For Parts" and then the buyer will have to jump through hoops to get it registered.
What's your email ill send you the BOS template I used when I sold my car with a blown motor. |
03-06-2013, 08:35 AM | #9 |
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Write your bill of sale for $699, and include "as is" in the wording. Get cash for the car.
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03-06-2013, 08:36 AM | #10 |
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03-06-2013, 08:57 AM | #11 |
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03-06-2013, 11:28 AM | #12 | ||
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Also as a STRONG warning: Do NOT sell the car to anyone under 18. They do not have the legal capability to enter into a legal contract. If you do, they could literally put the thing into a demolition derby, then remove the drivetrain, then use a forklift to drop the scrapmetal in your yard and demand 100% of their money back and you would have no recourse but to refund all of the money they paid. Oh....and this is valid in the entire US. Quote:
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03-06-2013, 02:05 PM | #13 |
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Unless you know the buyer personnaly, I would not sell it until you can get a valid inspection sticker for it. It would just be too easy for someone to use it for a race car for a week and then claim that they want their money back because they just found out they will need to spend $xxxx.xx to pass inspection. Next thing you know is you have to buy back a car that has 1/4" less tread on the tires or worse, some rod knock.
I would also recommend taking it to a dealer and pay to have a full maintenance check to keep as a record. |
03-06-2013, 02:09 PM | #14 |
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03-06-2013, 02:24 PM | #15 | |
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03-06-2013, 02:34 PM | #16 |
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Solution is simple - don't sell to Mass. resident. Make buyer produce a driver's license from RI, CT, NH, etc. In Mass. you're always within 50 miles of a bordering state, unless you're on Cape Cod.
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03-06-2013, 07:57 PM | #17 |
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cocoa so if i sell out of state the ma lemon law does not stay in affect?
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03-06-2013, 08:02 PM | #18 |
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False. If your car is titled in MA and you sell it out of state, MA lemon laws still apply
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03-06-2013, 10:03 PM | #19 |
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burn the ****ing car and get the insurance money and forget selling it
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03-07-2013, 04:52 AM | #20 |
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mass sounds like it blows D
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03-07-2013, 09:59 AM | #21 |
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ridiculousness. nanny state BS.
I'd just drive the car into a river and kill myself. This thread makes me very angry Whatever happened to "buyer beware"? |
03-07-2013, 02:21 PM | #22 |
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03-07-2013, 02:50 PM | #23 |
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I ______ am selling this vehicle _______ as is, to the party of ______.
VIN # Sale Price value $_____ USD Seller signature Buyer signature DATE OF SALE youre welcome |
03-08-2013, 11:34 AM | #24 | |
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Again, if you sell "as is" they could claim you put sugar in the tank, but if you "didn't know" it's still on them. It has been like this since the dawn of time. Read the law, it says if the buyer can prove the seller knowing defrauded the them. good luck trying to prove that. The seller (in a private party) can just say, "i didn't know, he could have taken it to a mechanic, i wasn't aware of that." ... and done. |
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03-08-2013, 11:36 AM | #25 |
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Read the law, it says the car must pass state inspection.
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