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05-15-2002, 07:20 PM | #1 |
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Let the mapping begin ;)
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05-15-2002, 07:26 PM | #2 |
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john - on the top menu. What are the values in the ()'s ... the target? Or when things start to be corrected?
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05-15-2002, 07:35 PM | #3 |
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They are live data which saves you loading up Delta Dash - you can edit your map whilst live data is being put onto it from driving - car was idling when I did the screen dump. The values in brackets are the raw hex, the others are the values in sensible units. The maps are edited in hex - this may or may not be to your liking, but a lot of mappers use much less friendly more primitive hex editors, so seems a good choice. For some values a $80 is 0 and they are obviously signed - like correction maps for example.
All the load values and RPM values can be altered so you get the resolution where you need it. This sort of resolution and control is impressive when you compare Unichip and Link. There is a lot more ability to respond to low octane and knock than many standalones. |
05-15-2002, 07:48 PM | #4 |
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I'm curious ... what about knock correction? can you set different levels of of base knock? in other words...you can say when the knock value gets X high, it starts retarding?
and it appears to have a 400 rpm interpolation width...at least thats what the map seems to step. Link is 500... and I really don't think you can compare tunable ecus to unichip |
05-15-2002, 07:51 PM | #5 |
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also...those 'load' values...is that acutal engine load? not map or something else?
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05-16-2002, 03:35 AM | #6 |
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It starts with a 400 RPM interpolation width but you can drop to 50 RPM in crucial areas which is $1 in hex, because of the scaling zones on the axes, so this is why I say impressive resolution. There are also more rows than the Link.
Regarding knock - the knock signal on my model year is a digital 0 or 1 - I am seeing none at present temperatures. It uses the low octane fuel and ignition maps to control retard and put more fuel in if it sees det. Recommendations are to leave those maps standard or make them more conservative to give it a wide range over which it can retard. Load is MAF based - there are other scaling maps galore. |
05-16-2002, 07:47 AM | #7 |
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is this the deltaecu product?
subject say it all, is this the soon to be available delta ecu product and if so will it be available to the masses or just to pro tuners and the such.
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05-16-2002, 10:21 AM | #8 | |
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Re: is this the deltaecu product?
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Last I remember talking to ECUTEK this would be a tuner special... I.E. the masses will not be so lucky.. Jorge (RiftsWRX) www.ProjectWRX.com |
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05-16-2002, 10:25 AM | #9 |
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yes the news at ecutek paints a picture of the future
it has a link to ecutek in australia showing there new partner mrt. and the mrt site talkes about having your ecu retuned at their shop. this is probably the future for the US market too. I hoped not. I had looked at this set of tools as potential being like an open source tuner tool like linux is to the computer comunity, but hey you never know unitl ecutek makes it official. any insite from the ecutek folks? (hint hint)
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Re: Let the mapping begin ;)
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05-16-2002, 11:42 AM | #11 |
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hmmm
Riddle me this Batman (John).. HP and Torque are always supposed to cross at 5252 RPM... The red is WAY off... Jorge (RiftsWRX) www.ProjectWRX.com |
05-16-2002, 12:00 PM | #12 |
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It is a professional package only.
5252 RPM - I agree, have mailed Ecutek to clarify. Sometimes the power curve plotted may be compensated for temperature and the torque curve isn't which I know on our local rolling road can alter the crossing point quite substantially. PE's figures are very consistent, if considered high in the UK. |
05-16-2002, 12:09 PM | #13 |
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I think that's only true when you scale the graphs for horsepower and torque the same. In other words, the x-axis means 0 hp and 0 lb-ft, the next horizontal line might mean 50 hp and 50 lb-ft, then next 100 hp and 100 lb-ft, etc.. That is not the case with the graph above. The only horizontal line in the graph above that means the same for both hp and lb-ft is the one at 200, which coincidentally is roughly where the standard ECU's lines crossed, thereby meaning they crossed near 5252.
The scale of torque in the graph above is designed to emphasize torque differences. |
05-16-2002, 03:44 PM | #14 |
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This isn't big news to me if I can't tune it myself and update to a racemap on the fly...
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05-16-2002, 08:04 PM | #15 |
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Just received a reply from Ecutek and they pointed out that the torque is on a different scale as Jon has pointed out. I do prefer graphs that all start at zero on every scale personally - looks less deceptive at a glance.
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