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05-23-2007, 12:11 AM | #1201 | |
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I have STI pink struts, Tein S-Techs, cobb front and rear sways.
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05-25-2007, 06:21 PM | #1202 |
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Question on KYB suspension? How does the adjustment dial work? Suppose there are levels one to four. To get to each of those damping levels, one must point the dot (on the dial) to the desired number. The real question is, what happens if you turn past four going clockwise and hit one? Will the level be set at one or do your have to go counter clockwise to go back to one? Sorry for the KYB noobieness but I have yet to find info on the functionality of the dial.
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05-25-2007, 06:35 PM | #1203 |
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Adjustability is 1-4. The dial on the top of the strut can be turned 360 and it works on the desired setting. Does not matter if you go all the way around.
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05-25-2007, 07:18 PM | #1204 |
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Got my car aligned with the Konis and the RCE lowering plates. Also have the stock front camber bolt and a rear camber bolt.
Front- R L Camber -1.9 -1.9 Caster 4.4 4.6 Toe 0 0 Rear R L Camber -2.0 -2.0 Toe 0 0 I was surprised at the the "small" amount of camber in the fronts we were able to get. This is with the plates as configured a few posts back. I know I am sacrificing caster for camber, but is this what I should be doing? Or if I'm only getting -1.9 camber up front (and the RA1's like more camber) should I switch to the all camber mode. Post with pics: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...postcount=1183 |
05-25-2007, 08:20 PM | #1205 |
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05-25-2007, 10:16 PM | #1206 | |
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I'd give it go w/ those settings, if you find you need more camber you can always swap the plates back to camber only. ^ I'll cast my "vote" |
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06-01-2007, 02:29 AM | #1207 |
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After much ado, I finally got my KYB AGX struts and Tein H-tech springs installed. I don't have any pics of the install, but there wasn't much to see. The car definitely sits lower - I'm going to need a low-profile jack for sure. I took it out for a spin with all 4 struts set to 1. It was pretty mellow, not nearly as "sharp" as stock. The only bad part is the stiffness when going over road cracks at very slow speed [walking pace], but the OEM strut/spring wasn't much better. I found that the faster I went, the smoother things got. I'll get an alignment done after things get settled.
2002 Wagon KYB AGX struts Tein H-tech springs [225/194] '04 rear tophats Perrin adjustable rear sway bar and HD mounts Perrin front and rear endlinks Pirelli P Zero Nero 225/45 - 17 |
06-01-2007, 11:18 PM | #1208 |
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Finally got around to installing my V7 SPT wagon kit. It had sat around in the basement for over a year, since coming off my old car. Tomorrow the 20mm RSB and whiteline endlinks go in. Rear STB also. A year keeping it stock is long enough.
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06-02-2007, 12:50 AM | #1209 |
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LOL! You're worse than me!
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06-02-2007, 01:44 AM | #1210 |
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What would a strong front sway bar do? All I know is that a beefy rear can limit the understeer and depending on how beefy it is, it could cause major over steer.
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06-02-2007, 02:18 AM | #1211 |
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strong front swaybar helps keep the negative camber curve.. and helps greatly with turn in, reducing bodyroll and stiffening up the front
Its kinda hard to describe though... i just put one on .. and its really strange going from a 24 adj rear bar to adding a front 22 adj bar with endlinks. |
06-03-2007, 07:23 AM | #1212 |
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Prodrive springs
Whiteline 22mm adjustable front swaybar Whiteline 22mm adjustable rear swaybar Whiteline front and rear HD endlinks Whiteline HD rear swybar mounts Whiteline front upper tie bar Whiteline rear upper tie bar w/quick release 17 x 7.5 Rota G-Force in flat black 222/45-17 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 |
07-07-2007, 09:38 PM | #1213 |
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-Hotchkis street bar set-up, F/R (2004 9-2x package which as I understand is that same for the 04' wrx wagon).
-Whiteline heavy endlinks F/R. Love the turn-in now. Only I am getting a pop from the front, both side, when the wheel is turned more than once. I torqued everything well, but while on ramps, so tomorrow I am going to noise under, loosen everything and re-torque while it is one the ground. Hopefully this will solve the issue. |
07-08-2007, 03:19 PM | #1214 |
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did you make sure everything is properly greased (endlinks included)?
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07-08-2007, 04:23 PM | #1215 | |
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It is now installed the way it should be and guess what? No noise what so ever. "Always check your work before you torque, son." |
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07-10-2007, 01:16 AM | #1216 |
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2006 WRX Wagon Setup
Tokico D-Specs
Swift Wagon-Specific Springs STI Group N Tops Paranoid Fabrications Fender Braces Whiteline 22mm Fixed Front Sway Bar Whiteline 22mm Adjustable Rear Sway Bar Whiteline Alloy Endlinks F/R Whiteline Comfort ALK Whiteline Quick-Release Rear Strut Bar Whiteline Rear Subframe Lockout Bolts Whiteline Rear Camber Bolts Whiteline Steering Rack Bushings (OK not suspension, but sort of handling related) Still running stocker wheels/tires FTL I only installed the struts/springs/tops a couple weeks ago, so not aligned yet. Garage Tuning had to drill out the front strut mounts to make them fit since I am not using camber plates, nor do I have sedan control arms. Even without the alignment, this setup rocks for daily driver use. It is very firm and controlled, yet soaks up bumps and dips better than stock. I do not plan to do anything else further than alignment, wheels and rubber. Ride height "appears" to be a bit higher in front than rear. I considered using the RCE lowering camber plates, but I have been told by several experts that ride height on a wagon should NOT look even. The front wheel wells are bigger. So, an "even" drop will not appear to be even. I love the way it handles, so I will trust my advisors and not mess with it. Last edited by wawawawagon; 07-10-2007 at 09:55 AM. Reason: Forgot to mention the endlinks |
07-10-2007, 02:27 AM | #1217 | |
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07-10-2007, 02:41 AM | #1218 |
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While I'm in here, I realized I haven't posted my latest setup.
KYB GR2s RCE Camber Plates (normal installation) USDM STi springs Cusco 22mm front sway bar with Noltec endlinks Whiteline 20mm rear sway bar with Kartboy endlinks Whiteline rear strut brace with quick release skewers TiC Fender Braces Whiteline comfort ALK Alignment is -2.3* F/-1.3* R Camber, with Zero toe. I don't remember my Caster. This setup will remain unchanged until Sunday, when I'm swapping for a set of Konis. During install time I'm considering canting the camber plates, but haven't decided yet. I'm happy with the current alignment, so I don't know that I will, but its an idea that I've been kicking around for a while. |
07-10-2007, 04:35 AM | #1219 |
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TurboJon Are you happy with the dampening you get with the gr-2s? (lack of adjustabiltiy aside)
And what kind of difference did you feel if any with adding the rear strut brace? hm not sure if i've updated my setup in a while so i'll add that while i post.. STi pink springs wagon 22 adj fsb on stiffest/WL with noltec gc links (highly recomend these endlinks also they are only 69 shipped from oakos.)24 adj rsb WL on middle with whitelineHD endlinks 1.7ishF/.9ishR camber with 0 toe ( i hope!) asx tires on stock rims Future developments(ihope) either kumho spt/gforce sport or nero m+S 225/50 on the 6 spoke rs wheels and a quick release rear strut brace (maybe someones takeoff ebay front) Setup Thoughts: wow those endlinks made a big difference in how much that rear bar had an effect on the car.. i just upped my fsb setting because my rear tires chirped a little on low speed parking lot turns 90* etc. I like the added control of the front (which used to be a bit... slow/sloppy in response), this came when i added on the fsb and endlinks together so i can't tell you which made the difference or both probably) its kind of funny to go from the stock setup to one where your embarassed of the rear tire chirp turning into the bank parking lot... To a n00b drive like me the swaybars+ endlinks all around definetly make the entire car feel more solid ( i guess the antiroll..) Last edited by uathatis; 07-10-2007 at 04:41 AM. |
07-10-2007, 11:54 AM | #1220 | |
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07-10-2007, 12:36 PM | #1221 | |
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07-10-2007, 12:42 PM | #1222 |
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Cool that's what I figured...could you elaborate on how the drilling of the top mounts is done? I searched but found nothing, it's probably deep in this thread somewhere.
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07-10-2007, 12:45 PM | #1223 |
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I have heard of specific cases where the dspecs did not lose a large amount of negative camber on the wagon....
I mean i'm not sure WHY but it seems to keep around the same range give or take. wawawagon keep us updated on your alignment |
07-10-2007, 12:53 PM | #1224 | |
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I'm getting my alignment next Thursday and I'm curious to what will come out of it! |
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07-10-2007, 02:08 PM | #1225 |
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You don't drill the top mounts, you elongate the mounting holes in the struts. Make the upper hole more ovalized towards the car, and you can tilt the hub into the car, gaining (losing) negative camber.
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