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12-11-2015, 01:12 AM | #376 | |
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I did the 2006 swap with an 06 wagon. The swap will require a new clutch. The clutch type of the 5 speed is Push and the STI is Pull type. Different clutch. You will also need an STI flywheel to mount the new clutch to. You can reuse your axles on the trans by swiping out the seals on the trans. Look up how to do that on here. KEY POINT. Mark the seal carriers to the trans before you unscrew them and count the number of rotations to take off. The seal carriers are used to preload the center diff and getting the load wrong can lead to failure in a short time. Again, count the number of rotations and mark the carrier to the trans before you start removing them. Your rear axels should work fine with the 160 diff. To pop the trans in you will also need to handle the tail yoke to get it to line up with the output shaft of the engine. It just won't spin like the 5 speed does and you need to turn the yoke to get it mated. Also its a bear to maneuver and fit. The space is tight so watch your hands. Good luck and its a nice swap. Keep your hubs and wheels while using the STI trans. Great sleeper look if you use the 5 speed knob. Also the shifter boot will not go past the reverse lockout ring on the shifter. Not a big deal and helps with the stealth look.
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12-11-2015, 07:18 AM | #377 |
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The '07 carriers allow seal swapping from the outside, it was redesigned.
You won't need to take the carrier out. Then while you will be able to make WRX axles work, after 1 year, they started to make such a noise (they are longer and were riding fully compressed), I thought I had bad front bearings. The noise is not the typical clicking. It's better to complete the front conversion with Sti axles, you have to read about abs tone ring location for each year. Also, the car will settle down on the suspension gradually, in a month give it an alignment. |
12-11-2015, 01:44 PM | #378 | |
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Use moly grease on all splines (main shaft and axles), but use sparingly on the main shaft as you don't want it flinging onto the clutch / flywheel face. |
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12-11-2015, 01:56 PM | #379 | |
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Also, small thing, but consider changing out your shift lever pivot bushings. Having the trans out would make this so much easier. Not needed, but would make shifting feel a lot better. |
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12-12-2015, 11:58 PM | #380 |
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I thought i read in order to use the sti driveshaft id have to change the ring n pinion on rear diff or use the automatic impreza driveshaft which goes right in
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12-13-2015, 12:02 AM | #381 | |
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12-13-2015, 12:05 AM | #382 |
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Thanks people.. Will be putting the rear end on tomorrow and do the clutch aswell.. still havent found a auto ds for my r160
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12-13-2015, 01:19 PM | #383 | |
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As far as using front WRX axles, I'm using rebuilt OE '02 axles with an 09 6MT and have not had any issues. Did the swap about 8 months ago. If the CVs are compressed, I didn't notice. I've heard that some aftermarket axles are longer than OE, so maybe that was the issue the other poster had. |
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12-13-2015, 01:26 PM | #384 | |
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12-13-2015, 02:20 PM | #385 |
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I think this has been mentioned, but I'll second that the group N trans mount is worthwhile as are upgraded shifter linkage bushings (I got mine from Turn in Concepts) while you're in there, if you like a shifter feel with very little freeplay and well defined gates.
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12-14-2015, 07:29 AM | #386 |
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FAQ: STi 6MT Swap into a WRX
The length of the axles is associated with the width of the transmission at the front differential. The 5 speed axles are longer. If you need a photo to see this, let me know, I have one.
As far as the rest, I re-used my original axles, that had 160 K miles. They started to be noisy about 1 year later. If you replace the flange to the R160, you have to use the procedure from the factory manual and torque the nut properly. As far as the push to pull clutch in a 5 speed WRX, I don't think the 2007 is the same with the 2006, but research this. Last edited by Vlad; 12-14-2015 at 09:24 AM. |
12-14-2015, 01:24 PM | #387 | |
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I have 8 months on mine and about 7 hours of road course track time without any issues (yet). If these wear out I'll switch to STi. Yes - IIRC it calls for a special tool that holds the assembly (off the vehicle) and locks down the output shafts. I either had a buddy stand on the brakes or I put an impact on it (which I don't recommend, but I had an R180 waiting in the wings in case anything went wrong ). |
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12-20-2015, 12:11 AM | #388 |
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Add this to the faq: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...highlight=fl1p
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12-27-2015, 07:52 PM | #389 |
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Just purchased a 03 WRX wagon from original owner with low mileage (76k miles) not very satisfied with the transmission. Scheduled to do a clutch job on my car but in further research price wise a 6 speed STI swap doesnt seem to terrible.
Ive been reading quite a few of these threads but it APPEARS, all i will need are the follow: Tranny- Will be purchasing 2007 sti transmission from flatirontuning.com or subaru genuine parts dot com 6MT clutch fork Auto driveshaft 98-07 impreza Good with the R160 diff (03 wrx) Reuse WRX axles- Need stubs,seals? STi shifter linkage 6MT tranny mount Going to go WITHOUT the DCCD controller for now. Am i missing anything? Seems to be it.. Thanks guys! |
12-27-2015, 08:56 PM | #390 |
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For the brand new 6 speed, look up my review in the parts review section, to find out what you receive when you buy a new unit.
The fork and bearing are included. |
12-28-2015, 02:53 AM | #391 |
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Might want:
SS braided clutch line Brake fluid to bleed / flush clutch Rear main seal Access cover O-ring Permatex ultra grey for oil separator cover High temp loctite for flywheel bolts and pressure plate bolts Moly grease for splines Copper antisieze for release bearing tabs and slave cylinder to clutch fork contact point Silicone or lithium grease for shifter bushings Brake parts cleaner |
01-18-2016, 10:08 PM | #392 |
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02-13-2016, 11:56 PM | #393 |
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I'm finishing up an 08 6speed into an 03 wrx. I'm not sure if it's been covered somewhere in here but I needed new axles (both of mine were leaking);and didnt want to deal with the stubs so I bought 07 wrx axles and they just popped right in. Wonderful. Sticky this??
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02-16-2016, 12:30 AM | #394 |
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03-13-2016, 08:59 AM | #395 |
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Thanks for the helpful thread
I encountered a few issues installing a 2011 sti transmission and rear diff in my 95 impreza. 1- 2011 sti driveshaft and 2005 5mt driveshaft are way too long, and both are the same length. 2- I had to cut the fwd trans mounting brackets out of the tunnel, the transmission was just too wide to give any room for installation or clearance for accessing any bolts or sensors. 3- The 2011 shifter assembly is way too long, the bottom rod was forced into the tunnel reinforcement and the shifter pivot up top was pushed against the rear of the floor opening. I now need to apparently use a 04-07 sti shifter assembly instead and still am not sure which driveshaft to use. The plan is to buy a carbon shaft, but I need to confirm which year model and type of driveshaft to ask for. |
03-16-2016, 11:50 PM | #396 |
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Another bump because the original post states all of the wrx and sti manual starters will interchange.
I just installed a super low mileage late wrx starter (that has been on my 11 5mt for months) on my recently installed 11 sti transmission. When I attempt to start the car, the starter binds to the flywheel (new act streetlite sti flywheel) and the seizes the motor so it won't turn manually. I then have to remove the starter and can turn the engine manually again. This is really frustrating because I've been going off forum information researched for years and was planning on using the car this weekend. Bump for any possible help or new information. Since my last post, I have installed a 04-07 sti shifter and it fits perfectly on the 11 sti trans and centers correctly in the tunnel opening. I also have a 04-07 sti carbon driveshaft on the way. The driveshaft may be here tomorrow, but with my current starting bind situation it seems the weekend is fubar'ed. |
03-17-2016, 05:42 PM | #397 | |
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As of 2008, the wrx and wrx sti starters are different. Please update the first post. Thanks
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03-17-2016, 06:06 PM | #398 |
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^Good to have some newer info added and glad you got it figured out.
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03-18-2016, 12:25 AM | #399 |
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03-20-2016, 08:32 PM | #400 |
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Yeah, obviously not many people will swap the 08+ transmissions into their 07- cars because of the lack of speed sensor. But for the few who do, it would be a nice tidbit of info to spare them a lot of grief. My car is a 95 so any little roadblock adds a lot of anxiety, especially with little to no input from others who may have done the same install. It was not a great feeling when the car wouldn't turn over, with all of the other little details we ran into this one was the icing on the cake. Luckily my friend has an sti and let me try his starter and driveshaft. We actually drove the car to and from TX2k16 and it did very well. I will be installing my dss carbon driveshaft this week and doing a few other minor things to lighten the car some more. The ACT clutch feels great now and pretty soon I will be confident enough to try some decent pulls.
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