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12-01-2011, 12:36 PM | #1 |
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Owners' Pros and Cons for 2011-12 Outbacks
I thought I would start a thread specifically geared to thoughts on the latest OB, the 2012. Would LOVE to hear your thoughts, as well!!!
2012 Subaru Outback 3.6 Ltd, Ruby Red My thoughts so far, after one month of ownership... PROS: - Quiet, smooth, comfortable ride - Nice upholstery, well appointed styling, comfortable seats - Telescoping steering wheel - Visibility - MPG very competitive in this class - HP in 3.6 H-6 competent for windy roads and mountains - Paddle shifters are way cool - Passenger and cargo room (esp. leg room!) - h/k stereo is fantastic! - WAY more features for the money than in comparable/competitive vehicles - Misc: safety ratings, styling, ground clearance, retractable roof rails, backup camera CONS: - Seat heater buttons to easily pushed - Electronic e-brake button hard to see/find - Inability to change iPod playlists while moving - Homelink buttons hard to see on mirror, and don’t work when key is off - Rear headrests block some of the back window view (not as much an issue with b-u cam) - Seems they require synthetic oil (not sure, but was told this by dealer???) JURY’S STILL OUT: - Radio/Nav controls/buttons too small and unintuitive - “Handsfree” may turn out to be an oxymoron - Satellite radio - Tires...very smooth on dry pavement but only limited experience in wet weather WISH LIST: - PLEASE update the Navigation! (hard drive based for easier, cheaper updates!) - Rear AC fan controls (I will miss this most ab my Tribeca) - Mute button on steering wheel with upgraded h/k stereo (how was this omitted???) - Power rear hatch lift and/or rear window latch OTHER OBSERVATIONS: - HP in 2.5 H-4 not nearly as peppy as the (drove one for 2 weeks this past summer)
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12-01-2011, 12:43 PM | #2 |
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Anyone add the wheel arch moldings? Wondering what those would look like on my red OB. Any thoughts?
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12-01-2011, 09:55 PM | #3 |
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2.5s get pretty good fuel economy - I got 34ish cross-state in one.
I've installed wheel arch moldings on a few, no red ones though. |
12-03-2011, 11:08 AM | #4 |
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The 2.5 has been great over the first six months. Just got back from a camp trip and these things seem tailor made for such things. Yeah, I looked at a 3.6 but 24 mpg highway was not in the cards.
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12-06-2011, 01:31 AM | #5 | |
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12-07-2011, 09:20 PM | #6 |
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Honestly I'm somewhat of a horrible tech... I don't ever ask how much something pays. I don't think it's more than 1 to 1.2 hours or so.
I do like the way they look, but it depends a bit on the wheel/tire package and sometimes the color. You can always ask your dealer if they'll tape them up and let you take a look before you buy. They may not go for it, but remind them that you're one of their customers who get owner surveys that impact their wallets... |
12-16-2011, 12:09 AM | #7 |
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I have a 2012 2.5i Limited w/ HK radio, and have no issues changing the ipod playlist while moving.
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12-18-2011, 09:21 PM | #8 | |
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12-30-2011, 04:28 PM | #9 |
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i love mine so much, wish i'd gotten the 3.6r though. its hideous so i painted some things, put on the wheel archings, getting headlights blacked out, etc... only bad thing i can say is that the climate controls are tiny, but not much of an issue for me. oh yeah, what really pisses me off is how nice and luxurious the EDM model is compared to the spartan USDM version.
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03-18-2012, 11:28 AM | #10 |
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Bought a '11 new. Love it wit one exception. It is VERY squirrly in any windy conditions. Head winds, cross winds, tail winds. Is this the way they are? Would different tires with more grip make a difference?
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03-27-2012, 02:22 PM | #11 |
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I just bought a 12 premium 2.5. The cvt is smooth and keeps the power where it needs to be although it is very slow off of the line. The awd works good so far. It has been on some sloppy snow/mud covered trails and performed flawlessly. I love the space inside and the feeling of a larger car coming from a 98 lgt wagon. My biggest complaint is the lack of space in the wheel wells. You can't fit a larger more aggressive tire in there other then geolanders.
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04-10-2012, 01:17 PM | #12 | ||
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That is not to say that you cannot use synthetic oil, but if someone is pushing it on you then they have an agenda. Quote:
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04-10-2012, 07:29 PM | #13 |
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New to forum. I purchased my first Subaru two weeks ago. Pearl White Outback 3.6R Limited. I absolutely love this vehicle!
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04-16-2012, 07:09 PM | #14 |
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I am new to the forum as well. I like my 2012 outback. It is very comfortable. Does anyone know how to install the wheel arch moldings discussed above?
Thanks Andy |
04-20-2012, 09:14 AM | #15 | |
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It's a combination of high center of gravity, "skinnier" tires, and relatively light weight for size. It's possible wider tires will help but gas mileage will take a hit, more than likely. |
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04-28-2012, 12:57 AM | #16 |
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Wide tires will also make it tramline more.
The wheel arch moldings are easy to install if you have basic hand tools and thumbs that work... If you buy them and have any troubles installing them, shoot me an email and I'll try to walk you through it. |
04-28-2012, 08:53 PM | #17 |
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Cool sounds good
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05-25-2012, 06:23 PM | #18 | |
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Found a huge flaw that is a deal breaker. I tried to trade it but I would have too much negative equity and Subaru wont do anything about it. The problem?? The Damn CVT. It will not reverse over anything. I got stuck crossing a 3" (yes 3") rut and had to have a friend pull me out. The car sits there and just makes noise. No wheel spin, nothing. I took my 05 OBS across the same place and it performed flawlessly. It wont even back over a 4x4 board. I am so made right now. Why did they give it such a ****ty reverse ratio that it will not back out over anyting. That transmission sucks. I hate this car. Worst Subaru I have ever owned. |
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05-29-2012, 05:41 PM | #19 |
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Just picked up a 2012 3.6R Limited for my wife. So far so good. Drove the 4 cylinder, and didn't like the cvt at all, and the 2.5i was a little under powered. I like the power of the 3.6, and I'm glad it burns regular now. It only has a few hundred miles so I'll keep you posted.
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06-02-2012, 01:17 AM | #20 |
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Anyone have experience with the 6 speed? Does it feel any quicker than the cvt?
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06-12-2012, 11:01 PM | #21 |
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Daniel Tosh owns an Outback. So that's another reason to buy
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06-25-2012, 01:02 PM | #22 | |
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That said - we love it. Great room, build quality, excellent fuel economy and no more premium fuel. |
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06-27-2012, 08:37 PM | #23 |
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Just purchased an Outback with a CVT. I have always owned Subarus with manual transmissions, in fact my other car is a 2006 Legacy manual with 182000 mi on it. I love that car and it still gets 35 mpg. Finding a new Subaru with a manual was next to impossible for me. As a Subaru loyalist, I settled for the CVT and hoped for the best. Well, my experience so far has been disappointing, lackluster performance and 25 mpg on a trip.
With 58 payments to go, can someone please tell me that I will learn to love it as much as my 5 previous Subarus? |
07-06-2012, 02:36 PM | #24 | |
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10-08-2012, 05:30 PM | #25 |
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I have The 2010 2.5 with 6 speed MT.
It is slow compared to other subarus I've owned. I should have gotten the bigger motor. The small motor is also gutless off road. It is geared to high for off road. I stall out trying to climb enything. I hate the parking brake!!!!! No more e-braking in the snow. What if your brakes really went out? This is the worst idea ever!!! And the traction control???? Give me a beak! Just let all 4 tires spin free and let me drive my car! I don't need the brakes comming on and trying to force me to do something I don't want to do. Even if you turn it off, it's not off! The ebrake is supposed to come off by its self when you put it in gear and start to dirve. This only works about 10% of the time. and if this is not a real function than why would it do it 10% of the time anyway? If I could go back I would not buy an outback from 2010 and on. I have have had impresa's and outbacks. |
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