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Old 03-16-2003, 10:11 AM   #1
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Default This is what happens when you combine idiots and SUVs.

This is tragic. The woman driving should be jailed for life, with pictures of the dead children hanging in her cell.


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By Ray Henry, Globe Correspondent, Globe Staff, 3/16/2003

Police charged a Lowell mother with negligent vehicular homicide last night after three children riding in the cargo area of her Isuzu Rodeo were killed when the sport utility vehicle rolled over on Interstate 495 in Westford.

State Police said Kassandra Doyle, 25, was driving north in the center lane of I-495 with another woman and six children around 10:10 a.m. yesterday when she drove into the passing lane and lost control of the SUV, which veered across the painted median just north of the exit for Boston Road, snapped a tree, and rolled over.

The SUV had a seating capacity of five but was carrying eight people, and it was traveling about 20 miles over the speed limit, police said. The three children in the cargo hold were thrown from the vehicle.

''They're not supposed to be there,'' said Sergeant Edward Principe, a State Police spokesman. ''They're supposed to be seatbelted in. That would be like riding in the back of a pickup. You're not supposed to do it.''

Sisters Nicole Griffin, 9, and Lilly Griffin, 6, of Worcester, and 11-year-old Brittany Scalesse of Everett were pronounced dead at the scene, Principe said.

Doyle's child, a 9-month-old boy named Tyler, was in a child restraint seat in the back seat and survived, police said. Both Doyle and her son were listed in serious condition at Massachusetts General Hospital last night.

The woman riding in the front passenger seat, Catherine Scalesse, 34, of Everett, was injured. Scalesse, Brittany's mother, had reconstructive surgery on her jaw and ear and was in fair condition last night at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, family members said.

Neither woman was wearing a seatbelt, police said.

Scalesse's son, Brendan, 5, and Kayla McFarland, 12, were flown by helicopter to Children's Hospital in Boston, where they were in good condition last night.

''The three seatbelts in the rear appeared to be in use. That would account for the children still with us,'' Principe said.

Carol Scalesse, Brittany and Brendan's grandmother, said that just before the crash yesterday, the 11-year-old had called her father on the cellphone he had bought her to tell him that she loved him.

The fifth-grader was a cheerleader - ''the team's best tumbler'' - and took dance class and choir, the grandmother said last night. ''She was just beautiful, and we're going to miss her.''

Police said they believed that members of three families were riding in the Isuzu.

Investigators were unsure what caused the accident, but Principe said a preliminary investigation suggested that the Isuzu was traveling 85 miles per hour, or 20 miles over the speed limit.

''We believe speed to be a factor,'' Principe said.

Westford Fire Chief Richard Rochon, who rushed from his house to lead the rescue attempt, said emergency medical technicians were performing CPR on several of the victims on the highway by the time he got to the scene. ''It's a difficult time. Obviously, our hearts and thoughts go out to the family of the people who lost some loved ones, ''he said.

Rochon, a firefighter in Westford for 26 years, said he could not recall another road accident that killed so many children. Many of the responding firefighters attended crisis-counseling sessions yesterday afternoon.

''They have children of the same ages,'' Rochon said. ''They did an extremely professional job for being able to separate their own personal feeling, and deal with these severe, traumatic injuries.''

Firefighters set up landing zones on the highway so that medical helicopters could land and transport the injured to area hospitals. The highway was closed for more than an hour, Rochon said.

Trooper David Parent said that in addition to negligent vehicular homicide, Doyle was charged with operating a motor vehicle so as to endanger, speeding, five counts of various seatbelt violations, and failing to stay within marked lanes.
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Old 03-16-2003, 10:21 AM   #2
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i wish i had something to say about this but i really cant find the words to express what i'm thinking.

i just hope she'll never be allowed to drive again.
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Old 03-16-2003, 10:25 AM   #3
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What does that headline have to do with the story? The SUV wasn't "parked", it was doing 85 and crashed.

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Old 03-16-2003, 10:31 AM   #4
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What does that headline have to do with the story? The SUV wasn't "parked", it was doing 85 and crashed.

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I was wondering that myself. Im gonna remove it from this post to get rid of confusion.
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Old 03-16-2003, 10:37 AM   #5
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i just hope she'll never be allowed to drive again.
Me too. After she gets out of prison in 25 years.
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Old 03-16-2003, 01:33 PM   #6
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SUV drivers think they are invinsible. They go 20+ mph over the speed limit and swerve everywhere. SUV drivers need to be taxed heavily (for the fuel) and give a seperate DMV driving Test and Drivers License.
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Old 03-16-2003, 02:43 PM   #7
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speaking of SUV idiots...I have a story of my own that happened last week....I was going home on the interstate and some jackass in a Chevy Tahoe comes hauling ass past me and 2 others...he cuts all three of us off....no big deal, then I see him weaving all over the place. he manages to slow down some and cuts me off again!!! so, I get right up behind him, and give two pieces of my mind....He slams on his brakes...I slam on mine...just enough for the ABS not to kick in(I've gotten good at that). and way, I decide to try to get away from him by changing lanes...yeah, he just starts weaving between THREE lanes to keep me behind him...then he slams his brakes on AGAIN!! that set me off right there...we came up to a toll booth, and he had a passcard...I had to pay and he didn't...as soon as I paid, I floored it and tried to catch up to him...I was doing 110 going after this POS and caught up to him, but got my head together and backed off...after he saw me, I did see him cut over another three lanes and take off...I guess he was scared at that point....friggin jackass piece of crap SUV driver


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Old 03-16-2003, 04:20 PM   #8
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I doubt she learns from it at all or somehow tries to blame the manufacturer.

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Old 03-16-2003, 04:49 PM   #9
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i wish i had something to say about this but i really cant find the words to express what i'm thinking.

i just hope she'll never be allowed to drive again.
even if she still keeps here licence she will NEVER get insurance again!!!

very sad for the children lost

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On a slight side note, I can't believe people still don't wear thre seatbelts. I am aware there were none in the cargo area but neither of the front driver/passengers were wearing them.
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Old 03-16-2003, 05:56 PM   #11
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If she had a minivan she could have seated 8 safely.
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Old 03-16-2003, 05:58 PM   #12
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Old 03-16-2003, 06:11 PM   #13
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SUV driver/mother + wood chipper =
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Old 03-16-2003, 06:14 PM   #14
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On a slight side note, I can't believe people still don't wear thre seatbelts. I am aware there were none in the cargo area but neither of the front driver/passengers were wearing them.

Mostly religous idiots who believe "its God's will" if they die in an accident because they didn't have their seatbelt on.

The seatbelt should be mandatory for the driver, optional for every passenger over 18. If you're too dumb to wear a seatbelt maybe I don't want you around my gene pool.

They should also have separate licenses for any vehicle over 4,500 pounds. You wan't to drive a 3-ton death machine (SUV) then have special training and pay for it.
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Out of curiousity why optional for passenger but not driver?
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Old 03-16-2003, 06:22 PM   #16
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I doubt she learns from it at all or somehow tries to blame the manufacturer.
I can hear it now.

"I'm telling you judgey, It was the Bridgestone/Firestones that caused me to roll the car and the Bridgestone/Firestones is what killed those kids."

"So then how do you explain having kids unbelted and not wearing a seatbelt yourself?

"....uhhh...It was those darn RE-92. They're the devil I tell you! They talk to you and make you do stupid things!"

yeah...
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As a closet libertarian, I have a slightly different approach on seatbelt laws.

I believe they should be optional for anyone 18 or older, and mandatory for anyone under 18, with AN ADULT DRIVER RESPONSIBLE for the injury of any unstrapped minors. Of course, in a car inhabited only by minors, each minor should be required to wear a seatbelt, and the driver held responsible for enforcement. It doesn't take much to refuse to turn the ignition until all seatbelts are fastened.
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Out of curiousity why optional for passenger but not driver?
Because the purpose of the seatbelt is not only to protect you in an accident, but to keep you in your seat under emergency handling conditions or minor acidents. If you get hit or swerve suddenly, you could pop out of your seat, losing control and causing more accidents and potentially deaths. A car or truck is a weapon when it's out of control. Let the passengers fly out of their seats in acidents if they don't want to wear a seatbelt. It's like motorcycle riders, go without a helmet if you want; if you crash you're probably not going to hurt anyone except yourself.
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belts or no belts, airbags most certainly incapacitate a driver's ability to make any response whatsoever to emergency conditions.
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you saying airbags are bad? I have 2 friends who were probably saved by their airbags. There is no way they were going to salvage the situation by the time they went off.

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you saying airbags are bad? I have 2 friends who were probably saved by their airbags. There is no way they were going to salvage the situation by the time they went off.

Airbags are great. I believe in them fully. but they do negate the argument that being belted leaves the driver in a position to respond to an emergency. After the shock and bloody nose of an airbag, good decisions are the last thing the driver is capable of.
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Make seatbelts optional for everyone.
But there is a catch. If you are injured in an accident and not wearing a seatbelt, insurance does not have to pay for your medical bills. If you don't care about yourself, why should insurance pay?
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Make seatbelts optional for everyone.
But there is a catch. If you are injured in an accident and not wearing a seatbelt, insurance does not have to pay for your medical bills. If you don't care about yourself, why should insurance pay?
excellent proposal!
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Make seatbelts optional for everyone.
But there is a catch. If you are injured in an accident and not wearing a seatbelt, insurance does not have to pay for your medical bills. If you don't care about yourself, why should insurance pay?
Sounds good to me. But the other problem is that our tax dollars end up paying for the policemen and firemen that have to tend to these idiots mangled corpses because they were too dumb to wear their seatbelts. How can we make them pay for that too?
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Ok so you got the drivers with their belts on a couple people in the back seats without the belts on. You slam into a car/wall/tree etc at high speed and guess what ? That unbelted person in the back is now crushing your ass and probally killing you both from behind.
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