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11-15-2012, 10:48 AM | #1026 | ||
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11-15-2012, 11:09 AM | #1027 |
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If I have to get an automatic...
I might as well buy any other SUV on the market that has a good 5 or 6-speed auto, that isn't a new and specifically un-proven high-torque CVT unit. I could buy a used Tribeca for less than a new Forester, and have more torque, and VTD AWD, and more amenities than most Foresters. Or I could go with a Nissan XTerra and get a 6-speed with part-time 4x4, instead of AWD. Kia Sportage Turbo has more power than even the new Forester XT DIT. Mazda CX5 certainly looks, and probably drives better. Mini Paceman is coming out, and looks sleeker, even though the AWD system is inferior. And it likely will offer both Auto and 6-speed. A truly sporty forester turbo, WRX or Legacy GT specification equivalent, let alone near STI equivalent, would be an easier sell, as I wouldn't have to compromise to cut power, manual, or full-time AWD. If I have to compromise, I may as well compromise one item or another with any other brand on the market. Why should I deal with an ugly Subaru, if it is going to technically be compromised, also. Subaru used to be technically spot-on, and overcame their inferior aesthetics. Now they are the same appliance you can buy anywhere else. Last edited by HipToBeSquare; 11-15-2012 at 11:15 AM. |
11-15-2012, 11:12 AM | #1028 |
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11-15-2012, 11:25 AM | #1029 |
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I for one will be picking up an XT as soon as they are released stateside. I could really care less about the non-proven CVT at this point, if it breaks I have a warranty to take care of all that. Anything is better than the God awful 4 speed that's in our 2011 Fozzy. That damn thing never seems to be in the correct gear, it's so annoying.
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11-15-2012, 11:26 AM | #1030 | |
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11-15-2012, 11:30 AM | #1031 | |
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Trying to keep an open mind about this car. Not a fan of CVTs or electric power steering but if Subaru can do it better than anyone else (including themselves to date) I'll have to put them back in the running. |
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11-15-2012, 12:08 PM | #1032 |
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11-15-2012, 12:16 PM | #1033 | |
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Well, the whole point of the Tribeca is to have more amenities but it doesn't have more torque than the 2.0DIT (247 vs 258), and much less mpg. Comparing used and new is pointless. While the VTD is technically better, since when is Subaru's Active AWD so awful? While the CX-5 does have the looks, it does lack power compared to the Forester 2.5X. The Sportage Turbo only has 10 hp and 11 tq more that the XT, but has nearly identical 0-60 times, like that really matters. The Paceman is smaller (barely a CUV) and will be slower and cost more than the XT. There are plenty of compromises with other brands offerings you mentioned. The closest equivalent is the Sportage Turbo. The previous Foresters were technically spot-on?. They were pretty basic, bare amenities, awkward wagon look (not complaining here), smaller and less power than the competition. The only thing it had going was an optional MT paired with the turbo engine that didn't sell well.. Last edited by subyski; 11-15-2012 at 01:02 PM. |
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11-15-2012, 12:53 PM | #1034 | ||
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As the guy ahead of me said, Tribeca has 247lb-ft AT 4400rpm vs Forester XTs 258 FROM 2000-5200 rpm. You get a on that one. As for the looks. That is all you. I personally like it. The back could be better. I am not a fan of the CX-5, so... Quote:
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11-15-2012, 01:04 PM | #1035 | |
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11-15-2012, 01:23 PM | #1036 |
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I'm keeping an eye on the Mazda CX5 as well as the Forester but keep in mind the AWD is superior in the Forester. Also, the CX5 won't even compare engine-wise unless they bring the 2.2L diesel to the U.S. The CX5 transmission is definitely nicer on paper, but I'd need to drive both to compare.
Honestly, it comes down to the fact that I KNOW the Forester, having owned 5 Subarus in the past, the CX5 is the unknown for me, but worth a look. Also, the diesel CX5 has oil issues, look at the Mazda Australian forums for info. Everything else you mentioned is larger, Pathfinder, Tribeca etc... Those can be had in 7 seat configs. which isn't in the same category as the Forester. |
11-15-2012, 01:40 PM | #1037 | |
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The CVT itself is very good, i just wish there was more power going to it, not the fault of the transmission tho. |
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11-15-2012, 02:46 PM | #1039 | |
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11-15-2012, 03:02 PM | #1040 | |
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11-15-2012, 04:12 PM | #1041 |
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Good to hear. That, combined with framed windows, should be a big improvement in noise levels over my 05.
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11-15-2012, 06:25 PM | #1042 | |
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The CVT is definitely going to be helpful to me since my daily commute and living area is filled with hills even on the highway. Now it just won't have to get down to 2nd or 3rd gear just to climb a hill. I'm hoping the paddle shifters have a quick response. Sometimes in the current generation if you shift near red line from 1st you'll get bumped to 3nd because the system was already shifting into 2nd. ;D Complete power sap. Other than that I'm too interested in the 2014 USDM Subaru Forester to care about what all of these other people are complaining about. I've always loved the Subaru Forester. |
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11-15-2012, 09:17 PM | #1043 |
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11-15-2012, 09:39 PM | #1044 |
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I've haphazardly (I can't read Japanese) browsed Subaru Japan's website and haven't yet found an explanation for the passenger side rear-view mirror wart. Speculation has been that its a blind-spot warning component (what about driver's side?) or a puddle light component (what about driver's side?).
Can someone point me to a webpage which explains the function of the wart on the new Jspec Subaru Forester passenger side rear-view mirror? |
11-16-2012, 12:01 AM | #1045 |
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Currently I have impreza 2012 which doesn't have enough power (IMO), cabin noise on hwy, cold CVT in morning......
This New forester with DIT can be a good candidate for my next ride (larger family in the future). I will seriously test drive this forester to see how it's compared with impreza when it comes to the dealer. Ah... I just owned my new impreza less than 1 year and I am planning for my next ride already? It's really hard for me to consider other brand after owning a Subaru. My wife wants infiniti or othe premium brands next time :-( |
11-16-2012, 07:29 AM | #1046 |
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Quieter tires and some heavy undercoat helped my 12 Impreza but I think most of the noise generated is wind noise from the expansive front glass at highway speeds. Since the Forester is on the Impreza chassis I doubt they made it super quiet but improved over the last gen like the current Impreza. If you want quiet try the 13 Outback for a little more $ than a Forester or Impreza.
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11-16-2012, 08:30 AM | #1047 | |
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11-16-2012, 10:16 AM | #1048 |
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11-16-2012, 10:37 AM | #1049 |
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I doubt there will be a separate Cali model. A lot of the western states carry 91 octane as their highest.
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11-16-2012, 11:38 AM | #1050 |
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