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View Poll Results: '06 STi, Legacy Spec B, or future redesigned '08 STi?
'06 STi 7 30.43%
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redesigned '08 STi (Last Resort) 8 34.78%
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Old 10-04-2006, 03:08 PM   #1
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A friend has decided to get a Subaru vs the EVO... but his dilemma now is choosing between an '06 STi or a Legacy Spec B or Wait for the redesigned '08 STi.

Here are the factors to consider:

1. He has a 10th month old child.
2. He's planning on AutoXing.

I'm trying to sway him to getting the STi, but the Spec B's are nice too. He has another car, so the kid won't be riding in the STi regularly.

What do you guys suggest??

Thanks in advance.

If Barry is reading this... I'll call you in the near future once my friend decides.
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Old 10-04-2006, 03:35 PM   #2
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If the main goal is to auto-X, go with the STi. If the main goal is for it to be daily driven with auto-X on the side, go with the LGT.



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Old 10-04-2006, 03:57 PM   #3
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A friend has decided to get a Subaru vs the EVO... but his dilemma now is choosing between an '06 STi or a Legacy Spec B or Wait for the redesigned '08 STi.

Here are the factors to consider:

1. He has a 10th month old child.
2. He's planning on AutoXing.

I'm trying to sway him to getting the STi, but the Spec B's are nice too. He has another car, so the kid won't be riding in the STi regularly.

What do you guys suggest??

Thanks in advance.

If Barry is reading this... I'll call you in the near future once my friend decides.
thanks man i suppose there is more to the quest than meets the eye. i've got 3 more 06 STi's, and they NEED to go if he has any q's, he can contact me anytime he needs
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Old 10-04-2006, 04:01 PM   #4
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you can autox a legacy!
look at the list
Doug and Karen M.
Alan and Angela A.
Me :P

there are usually 3 legacy's at the autox each month
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Old 10-04-2006, 04:06 PM   #5
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thanks man i suppose there is more to the quest than meets the eye. i've got 3 more 06 STi's, and they NEED to go if he has any q's, he can contact me anytime he needs
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He's also made up his mind on color... if he decides on an '06 STi, it's gonna be white.
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Old 10-04-2006, 04:22 PM   #6
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Legacy Spec B + Cobb Sway Bars + STi springs + turboback + EM FTW!!!

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Old 10-04-2006, 04:25 PM   #7
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I personally don't know enough about the Legacy Spec B... but are they capable of going faster than an STi in a qtr mile? If so, what extent of modifications are needed?
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Old 10-04-2006, 04:28 PM   #8
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I personally don't know enough about the Legacy Spec B... but are they capable of going faster than an STi in a qtr mile? If so, what extent of modifications are needed?
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Already covered that. I can smoke a stock STi all day long.....on a sanctioned race track

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Old 10-04-2006, 04:32 PM   #9
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thanks... good info indeed... i'll pass it on to him.
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The Legacy will be hard pressed to compete nationally with the STI in the STU class. It's down on power and it doesn't have the same differential setup (nor would it be an allowed modification).

But if competing nationally isn't the goal then the Legacy is a fine car and a better daily driver.
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Old 10-04-2006, 04:35 PM   #11
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Already covered that. I can smoke a stock STi all day long.....on a sanctioned race track

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with that being said, will i see you at the statemeet?
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Old 10-04-2006, 04:40 PM   #12
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Oh by the way I was almost certain the Legacy GT was the car for me. It's funny how a test drive can change your mind. As it turns out, all '06 and '07 models don't have an option for the moonroof delete. So that takes out nearly an inch of headroom which I desperately need when wearing a helmet. Because of that, I was forced to look at other options and ultimately decided on the STI.
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Old 10-04-2006, 04:45 PM   #13
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The Legacy will be hard pressed to compete nationally with the STI in the STU class. It's down on power and it doesn't have the same differential setup (nor would it be an allowed modification).

But if competing nationally isn't the goal then the Legacy is a fine car and a better daily driver.
If you look at the autox results, especially in the STU class
there are Legacy's on the tail of STI's or beating STI's
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Oh by the way I was almost certain the Legacy GT was the car for me. It's funny how a test drive can change your mind. As it turns out, all '06 and '07 models don't have an option for the moonroof delete. So that takes out nearly an inch of headroom which I desperately need when wearing a helmet. Because of that, I was forced to look at other options and ultimately decided on the STI.
that is why you search for an 05 base model LGT, which is what i went after
5MT, Cloth, no sunroof, no spoiler

but regardless of what's being said, he's making the right choice of picking a subie over an evo

Edit: wtf? my banana is frozen!
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You know what, the Spec B may be a good candidate for the stock class. I mean, with the Spec B you're paying extra for an upgraded Bilstein suspension and such. It'd be a shame to pay for that just to swap it out to be competitive in STU. But if you're competing in the stock class, those improvements in the Spec B could be a good advantage over the LGT.
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i won't pretend that i race, so my opinion is unfounded there. however, i lean towards the legacy, myself. for a family car, legacy has more room and comfort. both are safe. lgt is easy to modify to get the power you need. ask robson or da rookie and others.

quarter miling is not recommended in any subaru, unless it's a rwd conversion(ESX just nailed a 7.9)...that's my disclaimer. it's done by many, though.

depends on your friend's abilities, but we tend to see more 'abuse' issues from quarter miling than autoX.
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Old 10-04-2006, 05:02 PM   #16
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i won't pretend that i race, so my opinion is unfounded there. however, i lean towards the legacy, myself. for a family car, legacy has more room and comfort. both are safe. lgt is easy to modify to get the power you need. ask robson or da rookie and others.

quarter miling is not recommended in any subaru, unless it's a rwd conversion(ESX just nailed a 7.9)...that's my disclaimer. it's done by many, though.

depends on your friend's abilities, but we tend to see more 'abuse' issues from quarter miling than autoX.
I can believe that. With drag racing you'll be so tempted to do a "hard" launch to get the best times. Too bad it'll destroy the drivetrain if you keep it up.
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he's more concerned about autox... i told him if he can find an '05 sti used, he should jump all over it. If not, go for the '06 STi.
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Old 10-04-2006, 05:29 PM   #18
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You know what, the Spec B may be a good candidate for the stock class. I mean, with the Spec B you're paying extra for an upgraded Bilstein suspension and such. It'd be a shame to pay for that just to swap it out to be competitive in STU. But if you're competing in the stock class, those improvements in the Spec B could be a good advantage over the LGT.
Just a quick bit of info: For stock class autox in SCCA, you are allowed to change the struts, but not the springs. Locally, not many folks bother to do this... just saying though: "nationally competitive stock-class cars will run revalved or replacement struts anyway...".

Nothing says he can't keep the car stock and run STU anyway... not the end of the world to be underprepped locally, at least while he might be learning the autox ropes

I ran my STi w/stock suspension for over a year... added sways after a few months. Only recently did I add camber plates and springs on the front... still have stock springs on the rear (experimenting). Small changes, over time, seem to work best for me... ymmv.
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Just a quick bit of info: For stock class autox in SCCA, you are allowed to change the struts, but not the springs. Locally, not many folks bother to do this... just saying though: "nationally competitive stock-class cars will run revalved or replacement struts anyway...".
Yeah, I know I'm just thinking it doesn't make much sense to buy a Spec B to compete in STU or higher if you're just going to replace practically every part that makes the Spec B better than the LGT.
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He's also made up his mind on color... if he decides on an '06 STi, it's gonna be white.
Now why do I think Barry has one in stock..
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Old 10-04-2006, 09:16 PM   #21
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sti for autox. legacy for daily. I love the my leg, but an sti is more fun at autox imo.
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Old 10-05-2006, 11:42 AM   #24
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Yeah, I know I'm just thinking it doesn't make much sense to buy a Spec B to compete in STU or higher if you're just going to replace practically every part that makes the Spec B better than the LGT.
I agree. For the new Spec-B though, it's more than just suspension... you get the 6spd (blessing/curse perhaps) and the funky 'tune-o-matic' dial

So, there's some reasons to still get the Spec-B even if you go through the suspension at some point in the future.

I still think it'd be a fun car, as is, in autox for a good long while until the owner got up to speed. It may be the case that they do well enough with it to never be terribly concerned about upgrading suspension beyond camber plates and sways (and sticky tires of course).

Daily driving, Spec-B all the way.
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he's leaning towards the sti because of the dccd.
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