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11-01-2012, 10:07 AM | #2726 | |
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3 handed was some of the best televised poker I have ever watched. Merson impressed me in the earlier coverage and played incredibly well as the final table got shorter.
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11-01-2012, 10:13 AM | #2728 |
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lost $200 1/2 cash table at delaware park last night. really frustrating night.
wasn't being dealt ****. the best hands were pocket QQ & KK with little action on either. no 2prs, trips, straight...nothing was hitting regardless of if i played the hand or not. i need to learn some patience. i got behind and tried to make it up by shoving $60 on pocket 88s and losing to 2pr...4s and 6s or something dumb. |
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that final hand was nuts. took some balls to play that hand. |
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11-01-2012, 10:49 AM | #2730 |
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It aired already, 48 hours ago...open season. I can't imagine anyone that checks into this thread, if they have any interest, doesn't already know who won.
I really wouldn't worry about spoilers. |
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I probably could have gone to the Rio & tried to watch it live, but there is a good chance my gf would have strangled me.
anyway, while the ME was going on, I was loitering around the Luxor playing 1/2NL the short version: played 5 sessions (5 different evenings, usually after 9:30pm ) total of about 17.5 hours I won $174. I might have done better if I was not an idiot, or I ran a little better. here's the breakdown: Friday, 10/26 9:40pm - 1:40am (4 hours) +$178 a great start. they opened a new table & we were 4 handed for a while. two of the players looked like they might be Brazilians in town for the PBR World Finals. one of them had the money for both of them. neither was very good. they just would not fold his marginal hands. or particularly lucky as one opened to 15 w/ JJ and got 3B to 45 by my AA. I called his 4B shove & held. I open raised AKo to 7, ended up seeing the flop 4 ways, cbet 236 flop & laid it down to a shove (duh!) called a $15 pfr (closing the action from BB) to see a 5 way flop w/ AQs. whiffed and folded to cbet. felt I was priced in to see flop. Saturday, 10/27 9:25pm to 1:05am (3.5 hours) -$85 rough outing that could have been worse. very early in session I called a pfr w/ TT and flopped top set on monochrome board. ended up losing stack ($200 buy-in) to nut flush. re-bought. I pfr AK to 7 or 8, flopped A6T, cbet, got called. turn 7, got min-check raised to $50, called like a donk. just to make it worse, the dealer said "show me a winner". I said "show me the last card, please". he had mixed the muck & the deck & maybe the burn cards. so, he said he would have to shuffle and then deal it out. I said "I have a real bad feeling about this". river was blank, villain led out for $100, I smarten up & folded, he shows me 8d9d. I wish I could tell you how big my flop cbet was. I know it was over 1/2 pot. I was not happy, and down even more. on the good side, I rivered a boat on a 4 flush board for a big pot (I had pfr's AKs, but not in the suit the flush came in. pfr'd QQ, called a donk bet on flop, bet when checked to on turn, then shipped on the river w/ no call. interesting players - two "kids" that were pulling out $100's like they owned a printing press. they immediately had a prop bet, whoever did worse had to buy a pumpkin pie for the other one. pretty much played like loons, open raising to $300, later one shoves preflop blind and the other one calls (for $150) w/o looking. unfortunately for me they were a few seats to my left. unfortunately for them, they were directly to the right of the best player at the table. he had a big stack (including $200 of mine) before they got there and ended up leaving w/ about $1300 a while after they left. I told him he had an excellent poker face, as he had not pissed himself laughing when they started their nonsense. frustrating night as I wished I had played pot control on the turn, or at least not called the c/r. w/ my flopped top set on the monochrome, I'm not sure I could have gotten away as he was very aggressive. Sunday, 10/28 10:51 pm to 3:46 am (~5 hours) +52 basically, very little happened. "interesting hand" from my notebook QQ, pfr to 8, 1 guy called, then someone 3B to 35. I shipped, they folded. Monday, 10/29 9:08 pm to 11:32 pm (~2.5 hours) -$200 obviously, not my night. as the joke goes - "I shouldn't even be here." flight back to Philly cancelled, means bonus pokering for me. I cleverly use this opportunity to wipe out my winnings up to this point. after many orbits w/ noting interesting, I open $7 UTG+1 w/ A6s. see the flop 4 way. it comes 442. I cbet/stab $12 get shoved on by short stack for $26 more. other two fold. I pay off 99 like a donk. I limped w/ 44 and ended up with a boat, but not a very big pot. called a pfr from BB w/ TT (should have raised. I suck) flop a T on monochrome board, lead out & take it down. then, the disaster - pfr $8 - KK in EP. new player min raises me to 16, player that I suspect is good calls in late position. pot is now $43 and it's $8 to call. I have $111 remaining. I decide if I call, pot is going to be < twice my stack. I ship it. min raiser calls, good player folds. flop comes 3-5-7 and I am happy. turns comes J and I am worried, as JJ is definitely a possibility for his hand. river is another 7. dealer says show me a winner. I show KK. he shows 33. I am surprised, crushed & quite pleased w/ myself. I think I played it perfectly. if he had called me preflop and then made his set & I stacked off, I would have been sick, but this didn't even really bother me that much. I think I might be starting to understand the game. dealer pushed the pot over to him, pulled out the new deck and starts dealing next hand. he shoots me a card (I think I am now UTG) and asks me if I am going to buy chips. I tell him I've had enough for one night. I pick up my rack from under my seat and bring it over to the wife/gf of 33 and tell her "you'll probably need this later. I don't need it any more" 33 is wearing a Phillies cap. I ask him when he got in and when he is headed out, telling him my flight out was cancelled and I'm not getting out until Wednesday. we chat for a minute and I tell him "good luck & take care" and head off to bed. the whole trip up I am amazed how happy I am with how I played it. I sleep like a log. am I finally not "results oriented" ? Tuesday, 10/30 the last hurrah. 10:47 pm to 1:10 am (~2.3 hours) +$228 we start off 7 handed. game would get all kinds of weird between short stacked players and my first encounter w/ a player who was serious drunk and tilted and had a big bankroll. check my option in BB w/ 99 (should have raised, probably). flop comes A77, gets checked around. I c/c $10 on turn & river to pay off A-rag. I call a preflop shove to $40 w/ A6s from fishy short stack and hold over QJo. big hand was pfr to $8 w/ KK and calling shove from table drunk (I had him covered) he has something clever like 83o and flops a trey, but I hold. this was the beginning of his drunken shenanigans as he would either ship pre-flop or on the flop after limping or calling a raise. I decided to just wait for a spot (which never came). he usually got action from better hands & lost and burned through maybe a grand or so. spent most of his time insulting us because no one wanted to "play poker" w/ him. I managed to limp in w/ 44 on a pot where he limped preflop & then shoved the flop, but it was J85 or somesuch. he was in town for the SEMA show & going on about how he wasn't here to win money playing poker. "good thing" I told my neighbors. (he was on opposite end). of course, the guy on my left played with him quite a bit and turned $200 into $40 into $600+ then when he (my neighbor, not the drunk) was ready to pick up, he took his last free hand before the BB, and called a pre-flop shove of $309 w/ AJo and got out flopped by 83o or some such nonsense. now that Drunky McDrunkenstein had $600+ I saw my last orbit & bailed. I suppose it would be +EV to play him, but I did not feel like flipping coins for my $400+. especially the day after demonstrating that being a 4:1 favorite means you lose one of every five . . . . so, that's that. I was still weak/tighter than I planned on. I tend to adjust to the table dynamic and that tends toward a lot of pre-flop limping. the last night (before Drunky showed up) you'd see 3 or 4 guys in the pot w/ no raise, then someone would fire $10 into $6 or $8 on the flop & take it down. is that odd, or is it just me? no one raises pre-flop, but a number of people will overbet the pot on the flop. I still need to watch the ME stuff, which I am hoping got recorded while I was away. |
11-02-2012, 07:46 AM | #2732 | |
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I agree on the patience thing, but you'll be double angry at yourself for going on tilt because of it. Try to walk away with at least SOMETHING in your pocket, even if you sneak a few red chips in your pocket while still playing. |
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11-02-2012, 10:14 AM | #2733 | |
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i didn't follow the WSOP too closely this year but a kid I was hanging out with over the summer in europe was talking about his buddy made it to the final table and had a good shot at winning...Merson of course. |
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11-06-2012, 09:46 PM | #2734 | |
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played about 6 1/2 hours (I get election day off). did not go so well. lost $223. good sized chunk w/ AA. raised preflop, got a bunch of callers, led out w/ good sized bet on T high flop, got one caller. checked back T turn, but then paid off $50 bet on river to QT. game got faster as time went on and new players came in, stradling, etc. I stuck with my usual game of folding Q4o and trying to never flop a set. mostly successful, except I did flop J55 w/ JJ but no action as my pfr folded out the stray 5 from the aggressive guy. felt like I was going to blind out in a cash game. hands go like this: button straddles to $4, SB & BB call, limp in w/ KJs, it gets raised to $16, 3 callers in front, close action w/ a call. see flop of some crap like 853ss, call $25 w/ FD, whiff turn, fold to shove ($84). wave goodbye to $41. maybe I should have raised the flop. but it would not have helped, as he had raised the straddle w/ 85 and flopped 2 pair. I suck at poker. very different playing w/ a table full of regs including a few aggros, compared to the rec players & drunks I saw in Vegas. perhaps I should stick to weekends there. interesting watching a guy turn $150 BI into $875 while I was treading water w/ my second $200 BI. I should play more like him. |
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11-07-2012, 09:49 AM | #2735 |
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yeah. the table i was at the drunker you were the better the results. $10-15 preflop raises rarely pushed anyone out.
i don't know if it was his shtick or not but one guy kept asking what the blinds were... |
11-07-2012, 05:47 PM | #2736 |
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do you have a strategy for playing when there is a straddle on or for dealing w/ loose aggressive (but not maniac) types?
also, do you have any interest in meeting up at DP on a Saturday or Sunday or maybe a Friday night? I'd like to find someone to help me work on my game. would you be interested in getting together to talk poker once or twice a month? I KNOW these guys are playing a straddle and building up pots preflop because they are more comfortable (than the opposition) playing bloated pots post flop. and hiding under the table waiting for cards does not seem to be plus EV. I talked to a guy that seemed to be a pretty good player after a session in Vegas and he talked about defending blinds & buttons w/ 3 bets and firing at flops or re-raising flops. I understand that you can't always play your cards, sometimes you have to play the other guys hand. but I cannot see making it $20 (or more) to go out of the blinds with no hand and then firing $30+ at a "good" flop in the hopes that he was on a steal or missed. I guess I don't have the heart to risk $50 to keep a guy from stealing $2. right now it (always) seems easier to give him the $2 and wait for a better spot. of course, this means I am playing my hand face up when I call or raise. which is bad. I need to grow a pair. |
11-07-2012, 05:54 PM | #2737 |
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Usually, not always, I will straddle if I am winning and the table is tight. I like to keep the action going but am not a loose player. I have seen "those guys" that straddle every opportunity and reraise their option.
Normally, depending on the raise, they take it down or get one or two callers. This is the perfect chance to bluff at the pot or make a big bet heads up with middle, bottom pair or a big draw. It's best to be in position, otherwise you can't check the flop. Just don't get involved every time and try to sit to the left of the guy straddling, maybe so that you are in a late position each time. That way if you have a good hand, you are going to raise anyway and he'll come along since he is "invested". I never understand people that take straddling personally. I love it and it's a good way to keep people in the game. |
11-07-2012, 07:06 PM | #2738 |
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I don't take it personally.
they are trying to gain an advantage (& likely succeeding). that's the nature of the game. I was sitting on their left, but it doesn't help when they straddle the button or the cutoff (which I had never seen allowed before!) so I am in the BB or SB when they do it. even if they were straddling UTG, I'm still EP |
11-07-2012, 08:57 PM | #2739 |
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Yup, or at least Delaware casinos are my current poker stomping grounds . I used to play semi-weekly, but its been about once every month or two, lately.
and this is why I stay out of Delaware Park, and usually play Harrington (which is also a bit closer to me). Further south, there isn't as many players, and the tables are a bit tighter, but at least the play isn't as dangerous. Last time at DP, I raised to $45 from the button with pocket queens, and got called by 5 people , ended up losing to a caller with K,5, off suit |
11-08-2012, 10:10 AM | #2740 |
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I'd like to meet up w/ you sometime as well, plunk.
Harrington look like it's about 80 miles from me. Delaware Park is a bit less than 20. |
11-09-2012, 02:47 PM | #2741 |
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thinking about heading down to DP sometime this weekend.
I have Monday off too, but I think that it might turn out to be similar to election day crowd (regs). |
11-09-2012, 03:51 PM | #2742 |
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Harrington and Dover are both about 80 miles from me, with DP at about 110, but either way, I'll try to PM you next time I head north to DP.
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11-10-2012, 05:20 PM | #2744 |
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hmmm . . .
9 tables of 1/2 NL going right now at DP. 3 tables of 2/5 NL 2 tables of 2/4 Limit and a table of 4/8 Omaha Hi/Lo definitely looks like weekends might have more rec type players. and of course, probably more regs gunning for them. just got a copy of Ed Miller's "Playing the Player: Moving Beyond ABC Poker To Dominate Your Opponents" just started reading it this morning. so, I think I'll hold off on heading to DP until I finish it. hoping to get a better idea of how to play against the people that usually run me (& the whole game!) over. |
11-19-2012, 05:46 AM | #2745 |
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New to the forum, glad there's a poker thread.
I usually play at PARX since I live closer to there, but used to play in AC more than less. Haven't played in awhile, been off the game. Trying to get something local and casual going, but will prob just end up at PARX tonight or tomorrow. Will report back soon with stories of bad beats |
12-06-2012, 08:16 PM | #2746 | |
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well, here's something different:
http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/aria-d...n-poker-22934/ Aria Debuts Multi Action Poker Quote:
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12-15-2012, 08:51 PM | #2747 | |
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no surprise here.
I hope a meteor hits them in full session and knocks them over a fiscal cliff or something. Quote:
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12-20-2012, 08:39 PM | #2748 | |
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Poker News - Lederer settles.
link to settlement pdf CN - Quote:
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12-23-2012, 10:21 AM | #2749 |
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found something interesting on youtube.
it's pretty old (2009, I think as the chatbox references that year's ME final table) but had very few views, so you may not have seen it. Six instructors from PokerVT are playing 1/2NL at a 6 max table on Stars. there is a string of videos from each of their perspectives with their commentary. I am not all the way thru it yet (~2 hour game x 6 commentators = nearly 12 hours of content) but it has been very informative. Daniel Negreanu's commentary starts here: edit - Daniel only talks about the hands he plays. Bryan Devonshire's commentary starts here: Devo comments about pretty much all hands. Jon Ettinger's commentary starts here: Joshua Norris' commentary starts here: edit - Joshua is playing tournaments at the same time and barely even comments on the hands he plays. not really worth watching. seems like minutes go by w/ nothing from him. would be better use of your time to simply jump to time stamp in his videos to see what he was playing in various hands vs the others. Jon Turner's commentary starts here: edit - Jon comments on pretty much every hand. Very good insight. Jason Somerville's commentary starts here: Jason comments about pretty much all play. each of their "views" is broken into 12 or 13 randomly sized videos (say 4 to 15 minutes long), so there are a lot of bitesized chunks to go thru. you can usually find the "next" video for an instructor by looking at the videos on the right side list, or by the grid that pops up in the video window when the current video ends. you can also navigate from this page http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzM8.../videos?view=0 if you hit "more videos" enough to find the ones you want. he did not set them up as playlists, which is unfortunate. I saw Devo's video first and watched that through. I have also watched Sommerville, Daniel & PearlJammer. so, "only" 4 more hours worth of video on this 2 hour game! Last edited by ekw; 12-26-2012 at 01:15 PM. Reason: added notes abt the instructors I have watched so far. |
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Last night was my friends annual Christmas grab bag poker tournament. I got exceedingly drunk, but won anyway.
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