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07-17-2013, 07:46 PM | #9526 |
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Negative. Why you don't just go buy new stuff? Stop being cheap d00d.
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07-17-2013, 07:53 PM | #9527 |
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Because no body had em I thought but then I went to the zone on 28th. America
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07-17-2013, 08:20 PM | #9528 |
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well not to be a dick to Force or john but as a test flashed my tuners dw750cc pump gas map (while having the id1000s in my car and running e-85) idled smoother and pulled fine
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07-17-2013, 08:22 PM | #9529 |
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07-17-2013, 08:59 PM | #9530 |
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07-17-2013, 09:13 PM | #9531 |
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I think he should make it right with Louie, even if its shop credit, for parts. He should not represent himself as an "experienced tuner" in the subaru market if he is not. I could tell in just a few minutes that I was there, he was confused by his eyes and mannerisms. (Yes I was trained by Uncle Sam) I feel really bad for Louie, that was a lot of money for him to save up and get taken advantage of.
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07-17-2013, 09:34 PM | #9532 |
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Who was it?
Who did the new tune Louis? There are a lot more button pushers out there than tuners. Was the new tune on speed density? |
07-17-2013, 09:36 PM | #9533 |
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No not speed density
John from Forced Engineering tuned the car he seems really good at tuning DSMs and plenty of guys from Kzoo love him but I guess it didnt work out the same for me. |
07-17-2013, 09:39 PM | #9534 |
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Travis
Who did you say might tune N/A cars? Also has anyone heard of phatbotti tuning? |
07-17-2013, 09:40 PM | #9535 |
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07-17-2013, 09:59 PM | #9536 |
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Tuners I'd trust over the internet more than any DSM tuner in person... and yes some do DSMs but like it was mentioned above... Subaru's aren't like tuning an inline 4 for many reasons.
Tim Bailey - does mostly etunes Junior Barrios - eTune up to 20g Clark Turner - does mostly online tunes Dominic Acia - won't do eTunes Mike @ Innovative - won't do etunesthat I know of STi Mikey / PhatRon - eTune machines I hate to say it Louis cause I like helping you but saving a few bucks up front isn't saving much. I got my id2000s idling myself steady 12.5afr on pump gas in 5 min. Does that make me a tuner? I can get your WOT maps dialed in from looking at the timing maps from people who have posted their tining maps along the way and dial it back a degree and you'd be safe.. does it make me a tuner?? Nope. I could charge you $50 to help you over the internet and if it doesn't make the power it should.. oh well I got my money. I hope I don't sound like a dink cause I am trying to help, but when it comes to the life and blood of your motor, don't skimp out on the most crucial part. Save $100 off your next paycheck and go to a reputable tuner, ****, I think junior only charges $250 for an eTune with unlimited revisions on same fuel!! |
07-17-2013, 09:59 PM | #9537 | |
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I think the earliest tunable N/A cars were 05, but don't hold my feet to the fire on that. Louis: That's how I feel. He should be doing cheap tunes to make a name for himself in the Subaru game. I also feel bad because 500 bucks for a tune is steep, regardless of who it's from, or whom is paying for it. I also feel guilty because I suggested them so much for so long. =/ John definitely needs to make it right, and he really should be selfless in this situation and whatever Louie asks for give it to him (within reason of course). |
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07-17-2013, 10:01 PM | #9538 | |
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07-17-2013, 10:08 PM | #9539 | |
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Yea I was reading up on STI Mikey but not sure if '10 models are supported. Not really finding any information on it yet. |
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07-17-2013, 10:09 PM | #9540 |
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500!?!?!?!? I'd be hopping on a dyno!!!
Holy wah you did save a few paychecks! |
07-17-2013, 10:09 PM | #9541 |
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Travis what version Tactrix do you have?
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07-17-2013, 10:09 PM | #9542 | |
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07-17-2013, 10:10 PM | #9543 |
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I've heard bad things about phatron too but... there are a lot of success stories on NASIOC too.
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07-17-2013, 10:14 PM | #9544 |
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Pretty much every major tuner will have its bad and good stories im pretty sure. Look at me everyone around here with DSMs love the guy, he starts tuning subarus and leaves me .
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07-17-2013, 10:21 PM | #9545 |
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Well said and agree totally.
I feel like there are probably a few ~2% or less mistakes made while tuning (good tuners). 20% of the bad reviews are from people pushing the tuners. 80% of the problem ESPECIALLY with eTune is mechanical failure. Usually on the owners part. Often times as simple as an unplugged vac line or EBCS ran backwards. Then there are cases where you drive to Chicago and have injectors fail on the dyno and you have to drive 5 hrs home and buy new ones. Edit ** all numbers are fiction and pulled from my ass but you get what I'm saying |
07-17-2013, 10:26 PM | #9546 |
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I know what your saying i spent all day telling my dad that it may not be his fault i showed up with a broken car and thats that. But when you flash another map and nothign changes and magically it works we have problems....
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07-17-2013, 10:35 PM | #9547 |
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Holy crap i missed alot today. Sorry to hear about the bad luck louis, i hope you can get it figured out. Layvon's got some good points. Who did you have tune your car layvon?
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07-17-2013, 10:44 PM | #9548 |
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Jr tuned mine for me. Taught me a lot in the process too
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07-17-2013, 11:03 PM | #9549 |
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Ill be fine, trail and error i learned my mistake for now. It is pretty much figured out for now, unless when Eric starts tuning the car and it starts it again at which point im back at square one but i went back and forth between Johns map and Erics, Erics pulls thru to redline, Johns smashes into fuel cut and leans out really really bad by 4,500rpm with maybe 1 or 2 psi.
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07-17-2013, 11:10 PM | #9550 |
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That Tuners can't tune Saabarus then! I'd bitch up a storm.
Gravel spec Complete with R180. Ehhhhh???? PITA! |
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