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Old 01-13-2005, 09:39 AM   #1
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At the Track RacingBrake 4-Piston Calipers: 50% lighter than FHI 4-pots, Fit under OEM WRX Wheels!

Yup that's right!

AZP and RacingBrake have gotten together to bring you the ultimate brake upgrade for your WRX or other late-model Subaru!!!!

http://TeamIAC.com along with AZP has been testing these calipers for the past 4-5 months at tracks throughout the Northeast as well as putting on almost 20K miles on them in daily driving in and around NYC.

Features:
o 50% Weight Reduction over Subaru 4-pot Calipers
o Fit under the OEM WRX Wheels
o Better Pedal Feel
o RacingBrake will be offering a larger-2piece Rotor and bracket to upgrade these this coming spring
o Uses Subaru/300zx 4-piston Pads
o More corrosion Resistant due to Aluminum Material

These will be ready for shipping within a week, pics are up on our site!

RacingBrake AZP 4-Piston Caliper Page
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Pricing:
Calipers w/Hawk HPS Pads: $850
Calipers w/Hawk HPS Pads and RacingBrake Street Slotted Rotors: $999

-mike
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Old 01-13-2005, 09:40 AM   #2
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Street Rotor-Pad-Install Packages:

Street Front WRX Rotors:
Hawk HPS Street Pads
Installation @ our Shop
Total: $340
w/o Install: $245 ready to ship
HP+ Pads instead: add $55
SS Lines: add $120
ATE Super Blue Fluid: add $13
Drilled Rotors: Add $15

Street 4-wheel WRX Rotors

Hawk HPS Street Pads
Installation @ our Shop
Total: $550
w/o Install: $440 ready to ship
HP+ Front Pads instead: add $55
SS Lines: add $120
ATE Super Blue Fluid: add $13
Drilled Rotors: Add $15

Race Rotor-Pad-Install Packages:Race Front WRX Rotors:

Hawk HPS Street Pads
Installation @ our Shop
Total: $410
w/o Install: $320 ready to ship
HP+ Pads instead: add $55
SS Lines: add $120
ATE Super Blue Fluid: add $13

Race 4-wheel WRX Rotors:

Hawk HPS Street Pads
Installation @ our Shop
Total: $640
w/o Install: $530 ready to ship
HP+ Front Pads instead: add $55
SS Lines: add $120
ATE Super Blue Fluid: add $13

STi Rotors
Street:
STi Stock Size Rotors Front $420/pair
STi Stock Size Rotors Rear $300/pair
STi Drilled: Add $20/set

Race:

STi Stock Size Rotors Front $499/pair
STi Stock Size Rotors Rear $320/pair

Other Brake Items:
Hawk Pads:
WRX/RS
Hawk HPS Front Pads (Subaru 4-piston): $75

Hawk HPS Front Pads RS/WRX (Pre 07/02): $81
Hawk HPS Rear Pads RS/WRX (Pre 07/02): $65

Hawk HPS Front Pads RS/WRX (Post 07/02): $75
Hawk HPS Rear Pads RS/WRX (Post 07/02): $70

Hawk HP+ Front Pads (Subaru 4-poston): $90
Hawk HP+ Front Pads RS/WRX (Pre 07/02): $135
STi
Hawk HPS Front Pads: $110
Hawk HPS Rear Pads: $70

Hawk HP+ Front Pads: $140
Hawk HP+ Rear Pads: $85

Goodridge SS Lines: $125
ATE Super Blue Race Fluid: $15
Ferrodo DS2500 STi Front Pads: $190

-mike
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Old 01-13-2005, 09:45 AM   #3
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As always AZP doesn't sell ANYTHING we don't run on our own cars both on-track and off, here are the prototypes being tested:




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Old 01-13-2005, 12:14 PM   #4
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Do these come painted black? Do the calipers need rebuilds or dust seal replacements every so often? Are the Hawk HPS pads street pads and/or rotor friendly? Light/Heavy dust levels?

[i might seriously consider these when my tax return arrives...]
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Old 01-13-2005, 12:22 PM   #5
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Only come in Red unfortunately.
These are not the seals like found in several other calipers, they are double-sealed and don't melt under heat of racing, therefore no rebuilds are needed unless there is a problem.
The HPS pads are great street pads: Low noise, Low Dust, Easy on Rotors, and great stopping power from cold.

Hope this helps. I wanted black also but since RB is a small company they had to go with red to attract both the Tunerz Crowd and for those of us into racing/performance the color isn't a big deal, the real draw of these units is their performance.

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Old 01-13-2005, 12:41 PM   #6
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Very nice. Thanks for the info.

Yeah, i wanted black since i don't want any theives to be attracted to the nice expensive calipers i have on my car... But i suppose a little caliper paint could fix that.

[oh yeah, you suck since now these have officially been added to my list of things to buy...]
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Old 01-13-2005, 01:42 PM   #7
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Yes but will legacy turbo wheels fit over them (you know 15 inchers)? Rally minded folks want to know! =)

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Old 01-13-2005, 01:50 PM   #8
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How big is the 'bigger rotor'?
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:38 PM   #9
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something like 325 x 28 2-piecer is what I heard
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:40 PM   #10
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Can you show some more detailed pics of the quick release pins and how they fasten on and come out... that is assuming these do offer quick release pad installation like the FHI 4 pots do.

How do the seals handle salt sand for those of use in the snow belt region of North America?
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:04 PM   #11
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the pins are just the same as the subie 4 pot - cotter pins on the end
the seals are internal so the piston will be exposed when the pads are worn but the seal keeps the junk out of the piston bore - its similar to Alcon design and is pretty good because boots melt but unsealed pistons can get frozen

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Old 01-13-2005, 03:08 PM   #12
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same retainer clips as well?

It's hard to tell from the pics, no shots on the back side of the caliper.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:15 PM   #13
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mike may have more pics - but I've changed pads in his car once already - its not the identical parts but they are just as easy to change pads.

Pull the cotter pins - tap the pad pins out and the pads are free to be changed. I did it in no time while watching the football game
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:57 PM   #14
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something like 325 x 28 2-piecer is what I heard
325mm is a pretty big rotor (12.7"). I doubt that will fit under a stock wheel. The largest kit I've seen for stock wrx wheels is 310.
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Old 01-13-2005, 04:17 PM   #15
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325mm is a pretty big rotor (12.7"). I doubt that will fit under a stock wheel. The largest kit I've seen for stock wrx wheels is 310.
The larger rotors will not fit under OEM wheels, you will need larger wheels to fit the larger rotors, however you will not need new calipers, just a set of rotors and brackets and you are good to go.

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Old 01-13-2005, 04:17 PM   #16
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Can you show some more detailed pics of the quick release pins and how they fasten on and come out... that is assuming these do offer quick release pad installation like the FHI 4 pots do.

How do the seals handle salt sand for those of use in the snow belt region of North America?
So far no issues in our real world testing here in the NorthEast.

-mike
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Old 01-13-2005, 04:18 PM   #17
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Yes but will legacy turbo wheels fit over them (you know 15 inchers)? Rally minded folks want to know! =)

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I doubt 15" wheels will fit under them as they are very close to not clearing the 16" OEM WRX wheels.

-mike
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Old 01-13-2005, 04:20 PM   #18
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The quick releases are actually easier than the subaru 4-pots. Retaining clip is similar but not the same.

-mike
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50% lighter than FHI 4 pot = heavier or lighter than Wilwood 4 pot?
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:00 AM   #20
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50% lighter than FHI 4 pot = heavier or lighter than Wilwood 4 pot?
They come in at roughly 5.5lbs each not sure if that's more or less than the willwoods, however we don't consider the willwoods a viable alternative since they don't have the double-boot and need rebuilding every 6-months in winter climates, and don't take standard pads, good luck finding pads in a pinch at Pepboys on the wilwoods after you toast your pads at the track on sunday afternoon in the middle of the mountains of western NY.

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yall also plan on making some 2pot rears? and offering them in gold
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Old 01-14-2005, 09:40 AM   #22
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yall also plan on making some 2pot rears? and offering them in gold
No plans for Gold as of now, if anything Black. As for rears... The rear does so little braking, compared to the fronts, there may or may not be plans for 2-pot rears. From racing experience the rears are meaningless with outstanding fronts, currently our Impreza will do endos with the RB fronts and OEM Drum rears.

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Old 01-14-2005, 12:21 PM   #23
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Can we assume these are properly balanced with the stock brake system, i.e. doesn't destroy the brake bias, and perhaps, actually improves on it?
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Old 01-14-2005, 12:52 PM   #24
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These work with the 05 Legacy GT?

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Old 01-14-2005, 01:29 PM   #25
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They wouldn't work as is - the legacy rotor is half inch bigger and I'm unsure of the offset, thickness and if the locating points on the knuckle are the same

It may be that a 1/4" spacer does the trick.
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