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11-30-2010, 10:59 PM | #401 | |
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Short answer: The 2008+ HUs are standard double-DIN size, except the face is 8" wide. A few people have done it, but it required major hacking of the dash opening.
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12-02-2010, 03:14 AM | #402 |
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I looked in the other thread with his FAQ and pictures/explanations.
But I never saw anyone posting anything about trying to fit the 08+ radio into an 02-07 dash. If you have a link, I would be more than thankful. |
12-13-2010, 03:26 PM | #403 |
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Hi. I currently have a 2010 Mazda3 and an Iphone4. As soon as I get in the car, the phone pairs and I am able to stream my itunes library or pandora to my stereo.
I'm looking at a 2011 STI /w Nav and had some concerns. It's my understanding that if the STI doesn't have Nav then my iphone will stream exactly the same way and I can control it using the controls on the stearing wheel, just like in my mazda. With the Nav though, I was told the audio wouldn't stream over bluetooth. I did try this at the dealership and couldn't get it to work. If I connect my iphone to the a/v inputs in the armrest would i be able to use the stearing wheel controls? The one i tested this one had the usb port and while the iphone would connect and play music the stearing wheel controls didn't work. Is there a way to connect to usb but still use the bluetooth controls? thanks! |
12-13-2010, 07:56 PM | #404 |
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So let me get this straight for the 08+ nav, you can't adjust the sub level on the on-menu?
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12-14-2010, 03:18 AM | #405 | |
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(the on-screen settings may actually cause a small audible difference in that sub, but only by virtue of tweaking the signals the Navi is sending to its main speaker outputs). The on-screen settings are intended for Subaru subwoofers that connect to the Navi's balanced, line-level subwoofer output, including this one found in some Foresters outside North America. See my pin-out table (2nd half of post #11). In Foresters without that sub and Imprezas, you can wire an RCA jack to those pins and connect an aftermarket sub. E-mail me for details on an RCA cable with the correct pins to snap into the vacant slots on your factory harness. There's no way to make the on-screen settings work with the rectangular style sub, short of modifying the sub to take line-level inputs and then connecting it to the Navi's line-level sub out. |
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I don't think the premium HU will control an iPod/iPhone via the USB. It may simply be seeing the iPhone similar to a USB flash drive. We need some 2011 owners to chime in. |
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12-14-2010, 11:36 AM | #407 |
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Thanks for the replies. It was the Navi but they had the optional USB media hub installed.
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12-14-2010, 03:00 PM | #408 |
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That is correct. The stock Navi doesn't control a Subaru sub due to the way it works. There are sub out RCAs on the harness I sold you, that SVXdc is referring to. If you hook up an amp and sub to those, the sub level on the Navi works. I had those hooked to an aftermarket Boss sub under the driver's seat.
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12-16-2010, 01:29 AM | #409 |
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So after playing around with my '11 STI today I've decided I need to do something with the stereo. I have the Navi HU with NO sub. I know the EQ should help get me some bass but I'm lost tweaking it.
I know this was asked but couldn't find the answer....if I were to go to crutchfield and just buy new speakers would they wire up fine and get enough power from the HU? If not, is there a way to add a 4 channel amp to the HU since it does not have RCAs? Similar to above....could I add an after market sub and amp to the navi hu? thanks!! |
12-17-2010, 03:03 AM | #410 |
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So is there a less confusing way to use that 8 pin output for an aftermarket sub and amp setup.
From my understanding, if I read wrong im sorry. But the Forester only uses this output? Would that mean for Imprezas these 8 pins are not active at all? |
12-17-2010, 09:25 AM | #411 |
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I hate to derail most of your intentions--keeping it OEM. But you'll get the best sound quality and versatility if you upgrade to an aftermarket stereo. There are a lot of reasonably priced and diverse units out there, and I'm sure you could make the purchase close to a wash by selling your factory stereo. Just my .02 from someone who tried to keep the factory look
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12-18-2010, 04:18 PM | #412 |
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2010 impreza outback sport 06-07 oem subwoofer
I just bought 2010 outback sport and wanted to help out the sound a little bit so I bought the oem subwoofer but the 06-07 version (cause it was cheaper) but I didn't realize that they have different pin connections is there anyway to make the old sub work with the new HU?
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12-20-2010, 03:09 PM | #413 |
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Part numbers for 2006 Impreza WRX - OEM radio brackets.
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12-21-2010, 02:32 PM | #414 | |||
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Optionally, you can use a signal processor instead of a simple LOC (e.g., CleanSweep, 3sixty, Re-Q, etc.). Search threads or Google for more info. Quote:
However, I don't know if the 2011 Impreza Navi still has that feature [ADDED: Yes, the 2011 OEM Kenwood Navi does have the sub out]. A good sign would be if it still has the on-screen menu options for the sub (on the same screen with the fader adjustment), and if it still has the amp remote turn-on (pin 23 showing +12V when the HU is on). If the mono sub out is gone, you'd have to tap either the front or rear main speaker outputs to send to the sub amp (again, via a LOC, unless your sub amp has one built in). Last edited by SVXdc; 06-27-2011 at 03:47 PM. |
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12-21-2010, 02:42 PM | #415 | |
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Which model and year do you have? If you have a 2008-up Impreza and swap in a 2009-up Forester HU that has the line-level output, you can add wires to your Impreza's 8-pin aux harness to access the subwoofer output and amp remote turn-on wire. E-mail me for details (use the link under my profile). Otherwise you'll need to tap the front or rear main speaker outputs, via a LOC (if your amp can't use speaker-level inputs). Last edited by SVXdc; 01-22-2011 at 01:04 AM. |
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12-21-2010, 02:44 PM | #416 | |
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12-21-2010, 05:04 PM | #417 | |
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The 2011 Impreza Navi does have the on-screen menu options for the sub on the same screen with the fader adjustment, i.e. subwoofer level adjustment. Also on the speaker setting screen you can turn on/off the center channel and subwoofer channel. |
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12-23-2010, 08:02 PM | #418 |
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2011 Navi Pin out changed?
I thoroughly read offset & SVXdc's amazing write ups, relevent stickies, and tried the search function.
According to the currently documented pin out of the 2008+ Navigation head unit--post #11 here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...33&postcount=4 Pin 4 is the parking break wire. I went to ground that today to override the parking break control that limits the entering of new dest points while driving, etc. I couldn't find the original NASIOC post that linked to this (http://www.webjogger.com/WRX/2008WRX/08wrxnav.htm) The harness connector was clearly labeled & numbered (tiny embossed numbers)--Pin 4 was a gray+green wire for me. Cutting this wire stopped all audio in the car. HU would power up and work fine but no sound in any mode (DVD, FM, SAT, Etc). Grounding the wire had zero effect. I had to reconnect the cut and all is well now. When the unit was out I wrote down the Kenwood numbers: Kenwood FXDB10KF2 It seems like this is the non-OEM version IM: http://www.kenwoodusa.com/UserFiles/...60_Install.pdf Did the pinout change in 2011?? Or did I screw something up? Help would be appreciated. On another note, after reading all the threads on radio removal, etc, I have a couple comments: -The bezel is cake to remove if you tilt the HU (like you're gonna insert a DVD) and turn the car off with the HU flat. You can just reach up and pop it out. Prying from the top when the HU in normal position was more difficult and scratch prone. -I had to remove the sattellite radio reciever with the HU. The cables were wrapped around the HU cables and the HU wouldn't pull out. Once those were unwound, then I could work on the HU with the sattellite receiver remounted. The original DIY says you don't need to take it out (you probably wouldn't if your port hadn't crossed a few of the coupled cables). |
12-24-2010, 02:56 AM | #419 |
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Subaru's 2011 wiring diagrams still show all of the pins the same (including parking brake on 4). They show "Gr" (Gray) for pin 4, and no mention of green. Was the green you saw a stripe, dots, or what?
The 24-pin connector shells I've seen only have embossed pin numbers on the back, at the four corners. Is that what you saw? While you had the wire cut, you could have checked the car's wire to see whether it was controlled by the parking brake lever. You can still test that -- just unplug the 24-pin harness from the Navi and use a very small gauge wire (or a couple of strands from some stranded wire) to connect a voltmeter to that pin. The how-to on 'webjogger' was posted by bobaru. Here's one of his posts with the link. Last edited by SVXdc; 12-24-2010 at 06:36 PM. Reason: fixed link |
12-24-2010, 12:37 PM | #420 |
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The wire was solid gray with a green stripe through it. The embossed numbers went all the way around the connector.
Just read post #13 in this thread I'm subscribed to: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2075549 This guy indicates when looking at the nav face on that it was pin 4 in the left harness. Makes no sense because that is the 14-pin harness that has the audio/not nav controls...my 24-pin harness is on the right if you are facing the nav. The webjogger article was the one I followed, linked in my original post..I think. I could not get your link to go anywhere to verify it's the same one. Doing more Googling last night yeilded this obtuse forum but same symptoms: http://www.fixya.com/support/t142793...player_kenwood Edit: Your URL was banked by [b] tags, when removed it works. It is the same link I used for this mod. |
12-24-2010, 06:31 PM | #421 |
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Sorry, I don't know how the 'bold' tags got in my link Fixed now.
I also meant to format the link so it shows the whole thread -- there's another picture of the 24-pin Navi plug a couple of posts above bobaru's. Here are two more pictures of the 24-pin harness plug that I've annotated (from pictures a 2008 STI owner sent me): Only the four corner pins are embossed on the shell (1, 12, 13, 14, similar to the numbers I've added to my pictures). The #4 wire does not have a stripe. I think you may have the wrong plug. Or else Subaru may have changed something in the 2011 models. We are talking about the Subaru OEM Navi that looks like this, right? I recently fixed the picture of the rear of the Navi in my posts so that the top is oriented up... In my picture, the 24-pin Navi connector is the white socket at the upper right (labeled "24-pin..."). Does the rear of your HU look exactly the same? If the back of your HU and/or your harness is different, can you post pictures? |
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12-27-2010, 12:32 PM | #423 |
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The original FAQ thread and my searches do not turn up any results for my issue, but perhaps it is because I'm not using the correct search terms..
I added the factory iPod integration to my '08 Impreza's HU. When I use it with my 1st gen iPod nano, a decent number of the songs start somewhere in the middle. Some songs start at the beginning, but when the next song comes up, it's playing somewhere in the middle. I can't find any commonality between the songs, but what I do see is that it's on a per-song basis -- if the song starts in the middle somewhere, I can skip forward a few tracks, then go back to that song, and it does the exact same thing. Anyone have any experience with this? |
12-28-2010, 10:32 PM | #424 |
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Hi fellas...new guy here.
First off, don't hate me cause I have an Outback wagon. My problem is this...it's an '04 L.L. Bean Outback wagon with the non-Macintosh stereo, 6-disc changer w/9 speakers. The other day I was loading a new CD the kid got me for Christmas. I already had 3 loaded in there but when I attempted to put in the 4th it gave me a little problem, but it went in & played ok. The 5th, I screwed up by "helping" it go in. Now, none of them will play nor eject. I tried pulling the fuse & disconnecting the battery terminal to no avail. I assume i'll have to yank it out. I've read stories where once the changer starts acting stupid, it always will. Once I yank it out, how can I remove my CDs without having to take my Sawzall to it? Also, will a factory head unit from an '07 WRX work in my OBW w/no issues? Thanks for reading & thanks in advance for any help. |
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In that regard, I'd like to add a powered subwoofer to my system that operates in conjunction with the Navi controls. I'm thinking about a Kenwood Powered Subwoofer. Here's a link to the installation manual, page 6 shows the hookup for the rca line in. http://images.kenwood.eu/files/prod/...C-SW10(EN).pdf To make this work then, I guess I'd need an rca Y adapter to change the mono line to left/right and a customized plug for the back of the nav unit, connecting to pins 11, 12 & 24? Stock head unit information -- pin-outs, aux inputs, and more - NASIOC I wonder then, does pin 23 hook up to the blue/white wire on the 10 pin kenwood subwoofer which would normally go to the the accessory line. Or do you still need to hook the blue/white wire to the accessory line. And if you did hook the blue/white line up to pin 23 on the nav plug, would that also require a customized plug? Thanks for any help in advance. |
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