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Old 03-20-2016, 08:53 PM   #401
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Nice. Yeah, I'm rocking an 09 6MT in my bugeye that I track and loving it. I agree and don't see what the big deal is wrt swapping in newer 6 speeds. It seems a lot of people just think it's not possible or takes a lot more effort or something. It's really not a big deal - there are several aftermarket speed sensors available and the rest is plug and play (I did have to invert my nps, but that's a piece of cake with open source tuning, or it can be done electrically), and the newer trannies have stronger synchros and other improvements - so why not?

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Yeah, obviously not many people will swap the 08+ transmissions into their 07- cars because of the lack of speed sensor. But for the few who do, it would be a nice tidbit of info to spare them a lot of grief. My car is a 95 so any little roadblock adds a lot of anxiety, especially with little to no input from others who may have done the same install. It was not a great feeling when the car wouldn't turn over, with all of the other little details we ran into this one was the icing on the cake. Luckily my friend has an sti and let me try his starter and driveshaft. We actually drove the car to and from TX2k16 and it did very well. I will be installing my dss carbon driveshaft this week and doing a few other minor things to lighten the car some more. The ACT clutch feels great now and pretty soon I will be confident enough to try some decent pulls.
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Old 03-21-2016, 07:10 AM   #402
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Until recently, there was only one manufacturer for the speed sensor, for the '08+ transmissions, and their product was not reliable in some reviews.

Then a second manufacturer came with a product and people were waiting to see if this other product will be reliable in the long run.

A possible downside for this is that you'd want ideally the same manufacturer for the DCCD controller, as for the speed sensor controller, for possible future deeper integration.
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:02 PM   #403
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Does the r180 use the same mounting hardware as the r160? Like to the car, not the ds or axles?
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:15 PM   #404
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Yes

And apparently my post needs to be at least 5 characters long, so phhhhhffffffffftttt.

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Old 03-25-2016, 08:39 PM   #405
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Does the r180 use the same mounting hardware as the r160? Like to the car, not the ds or axles?
Bolts in exactly the same, like mentioned. It has the same studs sticking out of the rear cover and is pretty easy to install. Also has the same four bolts for the input flange.
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Old 03-26-2016, 12:02 AM   #406
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Bolts in exactly the same, like mentioned. It has the same studs sticking out of the rear cover and is pretty easy to install. Also has the same four bolts for the input flange.
Thanks for the quick replies! I just got my 2011 drivetrain to swap in. Stoked!
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Old 03-26-2016, 12:46 PM   #407
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I mounted mine externally, with a simple hall effect sensor, and anyone with a decent knowledge of electronics could have done it even back then. You can also use an adapter to adjust the pulses to get the speed accurate, mine is close enough (shows just a hair over actual speed, for that extra speeding ticket safety margin )

Maybe it is because people didn't want to deal with the hassle and they could have just used the older ones. No one actually looked for the information because they went the easy route.


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Until recently, there was only one manufacturer for the speed sensor, for the '08+ transmissions, and their product was not reliable in some reviews.

Then a second manufacturer came with a product and people were waiting to see if this other product will be reliable in the long run.

A possible downside for this is that you'd want ideally the same manufacturer for the DCCD controller, as for the speed sensor controller, for possible future deeper integration.
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Old 03-26-2016, 06:55 PM   #408
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Until recently, there was only one manufacturer for the speed sensor, for the '08+ transmissions, and their product was not reliable in some reviews.

Then a second manufacturer came with a product and people were waiting to see if this other product will be reliable in the long run.

A possible downside for this is that you'd want ideally the same manufacturer for the DCCD controller, as for the speed sensor controller, for possible future deeper integration.
Who makes this new sensor? I'm having issues with my current one. Thanks.
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Old 03-26-2016, 09:21 PM   #409
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He's probably referring to mapdccd (.com).

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Who makes this new sensor? I'm having issues with my current one. Thanks.
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:47 AM   #410
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I mounted mine externally, with a simple hall effect sensor, and anyone with a decent knowledge of electronics could have done it even back then. You can also use an adapter to adjust the pulses to get the speed accurate, mine is close enough (shows just a hair over actual speed, for that extra speeding ticket safety margin )

Maybe it is because people didn't want to deal with the hassle and they could have just used the older ones. No one actually looked for the information because they went the easy route.
Then, write a pictorial and help the community.

And yes, mapdccd.
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Old 03-27-2016, 04:06 PM   #411
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Then, write a pictorial and help the community.

And yes, mapdccd.
Giving away something I've learned on my own isn't helping "the community", and many of the members here make enough scratch to buy their own speed sensor setup. I'm not going to show people how to avoid paying for something vendors earn a living selling.

I've learned that you have to be careful who you help and that a lot of the "help" on this forum is incomplete and misleading. If you can't understand how I installed a hall effect sensor, you will need more help than I can provide. I help enough through pm and also being a parts guinea pig when countless hours of searching yields nothing but dead end threads.

Here is some info for anyone curious as to how a hall effect sensor works:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect_sensor
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Old 03-28-2016, 06:36 AM   #412
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Giving away something I've learned on my own isn't helping "the community", and many of the members here make enough scratch to buy their own speed sensor setup. I'm not going to show people how to avoid paying for something vendors earn a living selling.

I've learned that you have to be careful who you help and that a lot of the "help" on this forum is incomplete and misleading. If you can't understand how I installed a hall effect sensor, you will need more help than I can provide. I help enough through pm and also being a parts guinea pig when countless hours of searching yields nothing but dead end threads.

Here is some info for anyone curious as to how a hall effect sensor works:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect_sensor
I don't want to digress from this thread topic but I respectfully disagree. You learned how to do something that was a better solution to a vendor's questionable product. Sharing that would definitely help the community who are DIYers like you. No one said you have to follow suit with the "help" you found incomplete and misleading - you can write a DIY that is neither of those. It is not up to you if people can understand how to install something; you write the thread and allow others to see how it would be done and they can figure it out themselves if they can do it. Again, I disagree and I believe wholeheartedly sharing know-how here is what this forum is all about.
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Old 03-28-2016, 07:12 AM   #413
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Wow. I have to respectfully disagree with your disagreement. First, it is not my obligation to teach anyone how I designed my speed sensor setup. I've already mentioned a hall effect sensor is used and that is enough for anyone who is electronically and mechanically inclined to know what to do...maybe I shouldn't have even mentioned that. Second, the vendor's product is not "questionable" and likely easier for members to install. They also give instructions on how to do it. You can't seriously believe I am obligated to tell everyone how I made my own setup, that would be like expecting the guys who made the dccd controllers to give you the circuit design and components so you can build your own. Go ahead and ask them to share.

I've shared many ideas and helped members so many times and have been helped as well. I should have known it would be on this forum that people would try to lay a guilt trip on me and think I would fall for it.

I've already helped the thread by correcting information that hasn't been changed since 2008, you would think that is enough for one thread.


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I don't want to digress from this thread topic but I respectfully disagree. You learned how to do something that was a better solution to a vendor's questionable product. Sharing that would definitely help the community who are DIYers like you. No one said you have to follow suit with the "help" you found incomplete and misleading - you can write a DIY that is neither of those. It is not up to you if people can understand how to install something; you write the thread and allow others to see how it would be done and they can figure it out themselves if they can do it. Again, I disagree and I believe wholeheartedly sharing know-how here is what this forum is all about.
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Old 03-28-2016, 07:17 AM   #414
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Agree with Ken.
You don't have an obligation, you're building on other's posted knowledge, you can choose to add your own building bricks. Others will build on top of those too.
And as far as the vendor sales, this will increase the sales of the vendors that sell 08+ Sti transmissions.
It will not stop the sales of the DCCD related vendors, as they make available an integrated solution, but hopefully drive the prices down a bit in this sector.
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Wow. I have to respectfully disagree with your disagreement. First, it is not my obligation to teach anyone how I designed my speed sensor setup. I've already mentioned a hall effect sensor is used and that is enough for anyone who is electronically and mechanically inclined to know what to do...maybe I shouldn't have even mentioned that. Second, the vendor's product is not "questionable" and likely easier for members to install. They also give instructions on how to do it. You can't seriously believe I am obligated to tell everyone how I made my own setup, that would be like expecting the guys who made the dccd controllers to give you the circuit design and components so you can build your own. Go ahead and ask them to share.

I've shared many ideas and helped members so many times and have been helped as well. I should have known it would be on this forum that people would try to lay a guilt trip on me and think I would fall for it.

I've already helped the thread by correcting information that hasn't been changed since 2008, you would think that is enough for one thread.
No where in my post did I say you had an obligation. It seems you came to that conclusion yourself. It's up to you whether you want to share your knowledge.

Thanks, Vlad.
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Old 03-28-2016, 09:22 PM   #416
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No where in my post did I say you had an obligation. It seems you came to that conclusion yourself. It's up to you whether you want to share your knowledge.

Thanks, Vlad.

You didn't have to type it literally but it definitely seems implied. I've found useful information here and have also provided it many times. This is also not the only subaru site to learn from and I don't spend as much here as others but there are some great members who've been here for a while. Again, I've shared knowledge many times, but this is just something I'm not going to give out. There are things that can go wrong and cause issues for people who aren't electronically "inclined" and I'd rather not feel responsible and complicate something they could do by simply buying a setup already designed for their vehicle.


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Agree with Ken.
You don't have an obligation, you're building on other's posted knowledge, you can choose to add your own building bricks. Others will build on top of those too.
And as far as the vendor sales, this will increase the sales of the vendors that sell 08+ Sti transmissions.
It will not stop the sales of the DCCD related vendors, as they make available an integrated solution, but hopefully drive the prices down a bit in this sector.
It seems like I've already added a few bricks to this site's foundation and they seem to be holding up so far, and that is fine with me. I can't share everything I know about vehicles and electronics in general, there has to be something left up my sleeve. There are things about my car that are public knowledge but some I'd rather keep as my own. Besides, I've already posted a picture of how it was done years back and if anyone was that hard up to find out they could "search" as I've been told MANY times and see how it was done.
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Old 04-12-2017, 01:08 PM   #418
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What for?
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:21 AM   #419
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Has anyone attempted this conversion on an 08+ impreza 2.5i?

I'm considering a full sti swap and may start with the driveline.
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Old 05-02-2017, 01:32 PM   #420
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I need help with the wiring of the DCCD Manual Controller I purchased. They do not have very detailed instructions listed on their website. I am stuck without knowing which wires go where.

There are 5 wires total.

“Red” = 12v positive (switched power) *Do not connect to “always on” power
“Green“ = 0v negative (ground)
“Black” = DCCD “B128 pin 1” (See attached Subaru DCCD Schematic)
“White“ = DCCD “B128 pin 4” (See attached Subaru DCCD Schematic)
“Brown” = Ebrake cutout wire (ground this to open the diff)

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Old 05-22-2017, 04:37 PM   #421
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08+ 6MT. So this is an impossible topic to find any answers on. Is the only difference for 08-10 STI 6MT the lack of a speed sensor? How about everything else like the brembos, axles, r180 rear? I have googled and googled and am not having much luck. Thanks.
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08+ 6MT. So this is an impossible topic to find any answers on. Is the only difference for 08-10 STI 6MT the lack of a speed sensor? How about everything else like the brembos, axles, r180 rear? I have googled and googled and am not having much luck. Thanks.
Yep, into pre 08 cars the only issue will be the lack of speed sensor hole in the trans. The r180 bolts in the same, just use the bracket from your vehicle if it came with one. My 11 r180 bolted directly into my 95 rear crossmember.

You can use whatever front axles came with your car, if they are male. The rear you can buy some race adapters from Suberdave, if you aren't already r180.
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I'm installing an 04 STI drivetrain in my 02 WRX including a R180 rear diff. Now I know that the front STI axles will fit into my front hubs. So my question is will the rear 04 STI axles fit into the rear hubs on my 02 WRX? Or will I have to get 04 STI rear hubs?
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I'm installing an 04 STI drivetrain in my 02 WRX including a R180 rear diff. Now I know that the front STI axles will fit into my front hubs. So my question is will the rear 04 STI axles fit into the rear hubs on my 02 WRX? Or will I have to get 04 STI rear hubs?


No. You don't have to...

You can get hybrid axles, conversion races, OR swap hubs.
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I have a 2007 wrx, and have access to a scraped 2006 sti, I want to swap sti tranmission and differential in my 07 wrx, but don't want to swap hubs/brakes, what is the easiest route, can I somehow get my wrx cv axles to fit the sti trans and diff or is there a way to use just the sti transmission and change gearing in my rear differential, and use a auto driveshaft? Need help
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