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View Poll Results: I have a 2010-2012 STi with Stage 1 and I have
Blown a Ringland 3 16.67%
Not blown a Ringland 13 72.22%
Been Denied Coverage 0 0%
Have NOT been denied Coverage(AP back to stock first) v2 Accesssport 2 11.11%
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:15 PM   #51
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I've got a 2011 with 45,000 kms. Going strong only thrown 2 codes one at 1600 km and one at 12,000. Only mod is muffler delete.

Now i have a few buddies with the same year and 4 out of 6 have had a blown ringland. 2 cars stock and 2 modded to stage 1. Same climate, similar km's and driving styles.
Stg 1, ringland problems for me. At 9k miles too... back to stg 0. Staying there awhile.

I wasnt denied coverage btw, i would call soa if you were.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:31 PM   #52
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isin't ringland issues related to how much your beating the car ?? i mean if you stay all day on the rev limiter, weather you're stg 1 or stock, you will break something.. most likely a ringland.

stock ones had ringlands go south.. so did stag one..

so what does this tell us??

pistons are not forge and can't take a beating long??? me thinks yes.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:30 PM   #53
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me thinks cast pistons suck, I rarely got on my car... did I get on its once and awhile, sure. But I have 2 kids usually in the back seat, so no crazy driving most of the time.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:33 PM   #54
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I don't think we'll ever have a definitive answer on this subject. Everything is theoretical. Talking to the dealer they received almost as much unbeaten on/abused cars as they did modded and 'obviously' driven hard ones. A few people even had them fail before break-in procedure was completed. I can only talk from personal experience and observation though.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:10 PM   #55
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I don't think we'll ever have a definitive answer on this subject. Everything is theoretical. Talking to the dealer they received almost as much unbeaten on/abused cars as they did modded and 'obviously' driven hard ones. A few people even had them fail before break-in procedure was completed. I can only talk from personal experience and observation though.
No, OP seems to think there is concrete evidence out there, somewhere, and he might find it if he creates enough threads.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:24 AM   #56
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you really think this thread was for conclusive evidence? more like peoples experiences. you talk negative with every sentence im starting to think you 1. have an ego issue 2. have an internet know it all guy mode or 3. just some shy nerd too much time on the computer that has to be right everytime. you rven sent me a PM to be the "right" guy. Listen you act like I sont know these things but obv i do and nothin in my original post says i dont . so please do youself a favor and get some human friends
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:20 AM   #57
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Everything is theoretical.
That's not true. If we could get a large enough sample that was representative of the population of interest we would have a very strong answer. The problem, as has been pointed out several times, is how difficult it would be to get a representative sample. That's one reason the the OP is getting so much negativity; even if he gets a large number of NASIOCers to participate in his poll, it's likely to be a non-representative sample, and therefore the results would not apply to the population at large. Garbage in, garbage out.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:34 PM   #58
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The theoretical statement was applied to exactly what causes the ringland failure. Everyone seems to have their own opinion, and that's all it will ever be until SOA flat out announces what the real issue is. Which will never happen.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:06 PM   #59
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you really think this thread was for conclusive evidence? more like peoples experiences. you talk negative with every sentence im starting to think you 1. have an ego issue 2. have an internet know it all guy mode or 3. just some shy nerd too much time on the computer that has to be right everytime. you rven sent me a PM to be the "right" guy. Listen you act like I sont know these things but obv i do and nothin in my original post says i dont . so please do youself a favor and get some human friends
There is no need to fabricate lies to justify your worthless thread .

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That's not true. If we could get a large enough sample that was representative of the population of interest we would have a very strong answer. The problem, as has been pointed out several times, is how difficult it would be to get a representative sample. That's one reason the the OP is getting so much negativity; even if he gets a large number of NASIOCers to participate in his poll, it's likely to be a non-representative sample, and therefore the results would not apply to the population at large. Garbage in, garbage out.
Exactly. Only a very small fraction of owners are even on the forums.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:20 PM   #60
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The theoretical statement was applied to exactly what causes the ringland failure. Everyone seems to have their own opinion, and that's all it will ever be until SOA flat out announces what the real issue is. Which will never happen.
True.

But even more, you cannot compare this as it is affected by mods and how you drive it.


Back in 03, the mazdaspeed protege was plagued with a cracking exhaust manifold. It didnt matter weather you modded the car or not or how drive it. They ALL did it. Mazda never admitted to this. The part was made by Callaway.

But on subies, some break ringlands some dont. Mods? Bad pistons? Driving?

No pole on any forum can give out the real reason. Too many variables.

Nobody drives the same. Mod the same. But we all can agree the pistons are weak
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:53 PM   #61
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True.

But even more, you cannot compare this as it is affected by mods and how you drive it.

Back in 03, the mazdaspeed protege was plagued with a cracking exhaust manifold. It didnt matter weather you modded the car or not or how drive it. They ALL did it. Mazda never admitted to this. The part was made by Callaway.

But on subies, some break ringlands some dont. Mods? Bad pistons? Driving?

No pole on any forum can give out the real reason. Too many variables.

Nobody drives the same. Mod the same. But we all can agree the pistons are weak
Quoted for truth.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:27 PM   #62
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True.

But even more, you cannot compare this as it is affected by mods and how you drive it.


Back in 03, the mazdaspeed protege was plagued with a cracking exhaust manifold. It didnt matter weather you modded the car or not or how drive it. They ALL did it. Mazda never admitted to this. The part was made by Callaway.

But on subies, some break ringlands some dont. Mods? Bad pistons? Driving?

No pole on any forum can give out the real reason. Too many variables.

Nobody drives the same. Mod the same. But we all can agree the pistons are weak
Truth indeed. Safest thing to do is to stay BONE stock during warranty period. Bone stock EVERYTHING. Suspensions, wheels, engine...EVERYTHING. Drive it as you wish with the stock tune. Be mindful to perform and keep a record of all the appropriate maintenance. Who cares about a crappy tune because if a piston breaks, you'll be covered and you can repeat this process all over again. All the meanwhile you should be saving all the money you'd normally be dumping in mods until you have enough to build that forged short block.

Doing it like this you set yourself up for a win-win. If the pistons break, you're covered, no extra cash down the drain. If the pistons don't break, you're still saving up for a forged build.

Even better, you save up until you have ALL the mods you want all at once. Then when you're finally able to drop them in, it'll feel like a brand new car all over again. My GAWD I'M A GENIUS! It seems that all these years all you noobs have been doing it all wrong!
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:46 PM   #63
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I've got a 2011 with 45,000 kms. Going strong only thrown 2 codes one at 1600 km and one at 12,000. Only mod is muffler delete.

Now i have a few buddies with the same year and 4 out of 6 have had a blown ringland. 2 cars stock and 2 modded to stage 1. Same climate, similar km's and driving styles.
I filled up with 91 at the Shell in Moncton on Mapleton Road by Costco and my car hated it. I had to put in some octane booster.
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