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09-10-2010, 04:36 PM | #1451 |
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The y-pipe needs to go, but I don't want to go buy one only to need another larger one when I upgrade the IC. I would have ditched the y-pipe years ago, but when I was autocrossing the class rules said I couldn't replace it. So I simply haven't attacked that problem yet. And I'm still deciding whether I want to pony up the money for a used STi TMIC to get better fitment or save $100 and go with an ebay TMIC that is huge and not any more efficient.
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09-19-2010, 03:12 PM | #1452 |
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Is this fast enough spool for you all? Starting to get my 16G map fine tuned, and the weather is cooling off a bit. It was ~60 degrees F outside during these logs, with IAT of ~75 I believe. Really humid and cloudy.
20 psi by 3700 RPM in 2nd gear. Crossing 4.0 mafV around 3600 RPM. Still stock maf scale and maf tube/sensor. Code:
RPM ITT mafV MRP 2715 28 2.92 4.87 2753 27 2.98 5.28 2810 25.5 3 5.72 2842 25 3.02 6.25 2919 23.5 3.14 6.85 3001 22.5 3.22 7.6 3052 21 3.3 8.51 3140 20 3.42 9.49 3200 19 3.48 10.81 3304 17.5 3.6 12.49 3420 15.5 3.78 14.83 3529 13 3.94 17.48 3700 11.5 4.06 19.65 3813 11.5 4.02 20.28 3844 11.5 4.02 20.46 3924 11.5 4 20.71 3960 11.5 4.08 20.81 4045 11.5 4.14 20.81 4094 11.5 4.16 20.81 Heres another log where I just rolled onto the throttle. A bit higher boost this time. 4.56 mafV at 6300! Not sure what it would've reached had I redlined it. Probably 4.58-4.6. Code:
RPM ITT mafV MRP 4100 12.5 4.06 20.65 4171 12.5 4.12 20.83 4268 12.5 4.22 21.27 4368 13 4.2 21.43 4404 13 4.26 21.68 4532 13 4.28 21.73 4621 13.5 4.3 21.77 4661 13.5 4.32 21.79 4768 14 4.34 21.73 4896 14 4.36 21.62 4947 14 4.36 21.58 5057 15 4.4 21.35 5137 15 4.42 21.21 5237 15.5 4.44 21 5296 15.5 4.46 20.86 5407 15.5 4.48 20.71 5502 15.5 4.5 20.67 5543 15.5 4.5 20.55 5686 16.5 4.52 20.48 5769 17.5 4.52 20.38 5850 17.5 4.54 20.21 5957 18.5 4.54 19.8 6063 19 4.54 19.8 6107 19.5 4.54 19.78 6142 20 4.54 19.67 6214 20 4.56 19.78 6292 20.5 4.56 19.67 6378 21 4.56 19.68 |
10-04-2010, 03:29 PM | #1453 |
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Getting my 19t setup tuned tomorrow afternoon. Can't wait!
Blouch td04-19t sti pinks + 255 fp sti tmic + silicone IC pipes cobb sri w/box grimm ebcs ported/coated exhaust headers PA 93 pump gas I'll post the dyno porn tomorrow eve. |
10-04-2010, 04:16 PM | #1454 |
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lol @ dyno porn! I'm curious to see results!!!
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10-04-2010, 08:53 PM | #1455 |
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Did you get the turbine wheel clipped?
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10-04-2010, 09:13 PM | #1456 |
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Nope, just plain old 19t.
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10-04-2010, 10:07 PM | #1457 |
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10-05-2010, 05:58 PM | #1458 |
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I think you are right:
260hp/247wtq corrected, 269/252 uncorrected. Tune peaked at 19.5psi around 3400rpm and made peak hp at 6000rpm. Overall I'm very happy with the tune! |
10-05-2010, 06:45 PM | #1459 |
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10-05-2010, 08:18 PM | #1460 |
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dyno porn as promised. sorry for the crappy pic quality.
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10-05-2010, 08:52 PM | #1461 |
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10-05-2010, 10:13 PM | #1462 |
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^^^ Thanks!
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10-05-2010, 10:51 PM | #1463 |
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Those are good numbers you have there. The graph has a nice shape to it as well, although I imagine spool up on the street would be a bit quicker and move that peak torque a bit further to the left.
This is what a stage 2 STI on 93 makes on agile's dyno for reference http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1736189 (341 whp, 356 wtq) |
10-05-2010, 11:23 PM | #1464 |
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So, this is looking very appealing to me. I was just wondering how much it would add on top of my stage 2 setup right now.
I'm figuring $300 for blouch to rebuild (can't check the price right now cause the site is down), $225 each for injectors and pump. So, I'm not sure if I would need to upgrade the intercooler or not. I believe I read yes, but I don't feel like searching through here again. So, could I look at around $800? Or is there stuff that I am missing? |
10-05-2010, 11:45 PM | #1465 | |
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You never really NEED to upgrade your intercooler, but it will limit the power you'll be able to make if you don't. A good bar/plate TMIC and proper ducting/heat shielding will probably make 15+whp/wtq over the stock TMIC. Maybe more. The fuel pump is 90$ for the kit, so no worries there. Injectors.....depends on what you want. ID1000's are gonna be a lot more than modded stockers. How much more power do you want? The reason I ask is because add a good CAI, injectors, FP, and an E85 tune, and the added power will blow your mind if your currently OTS map stage 2 tune. It will run you less $, as you won't need the intercooler or the turbo modification, and it will probably make similar power to a 19T on pump fuel. The turbine clipping also obviously changes the boost response of the turbo. Here you can see windozer observing the 19T in this latest result reaching 19.5 psi by 3400 RPM in what I'm assuming is a 3rd gear pull. On a stock turbo, good stage 2 setup people usually see that manifold pressure reached before 3000 RPM (depending on state of tune and boost control method) I'm still not convinced that this is any better than a 16G. I would expect the same manifold pressure from a 16G at roughly the same RPM as this on a MT 5 spd in 3rd gear. Hard to beat the price point though. |
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10-06-2010, 12:31 AM | #1466 | |
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Current applicable mods are 3" turbo-back, lightweight flywheel, Exedy Stage 1 organic clutch. Not sure if that changes anything. Thank you by the way. |
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10-06-2010, 07:42 AM | #1467 |
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xsnapshot - you're right, 3rd gear pull. I also agree with what you said about the 16g, but I was still very impressed on how hard it pulls up to 6000. Since I got the rebuilt turbo and sti injectors for such an amazing price, I decided to go this route. The car is also a DD and this has been my first turbo swap so I decided to start small. I plan to have the car a long, long time and work up to bigger and bigger numbers
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10-09-2010, 08:38 PM | #1469 |
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I REALLY wanna do this upgrade but can't find anything about it on the new Blouch web page. Does anyone know if they've stopped doing this?
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10-09-2010, 09:06 PM | #1470 |
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I sent them a pm and a e-mail with no response about 3 weeks ago. I want it too!
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10-10-2010, 03:05 AM | #1471 |
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I usually have success calling Blouch.
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10-14-2010, 11:44 PM | #1472 |
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I decided to go this route after my turbo seal failed. Sent the TD04 to Blouch last Oct and got it back about a month later. Had all the parts installed and tuned in Denver @ Mac Auto Sports.
19T TD04 (GimmeSpeed P&P w/ Heat Coating) Larger Top Mount DeatschWerk 750cc +1 Colder Plugs Walbro 255 Boost Solenoid GrimmeSpeed Catless Uppipe Maddad Downpipe (2.5 tapper) and (highflow Magnaflow cat) Mac Auto Tune End Product: HP 271.16 Torque 283.01 (Sorry To Lazy To Post Paper Proof) Car has been running great with no problems, and very happy with the results. 2nd & 3rd gear loves. |
10-14-2010, 11:45 PM | #1473 |
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I would definitly call Bloush.... I left messages and got nothing back. Called and got a response right away.
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10-15-2010, 12:06 AM | #1474 | |
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I'm not a fan of the Magnaflow thing that they do since it didn't help a bit in me clearing emissions. I'm going catless, and I'll just swap in stock when I need to clear. Trust me, it's not worth the hassle. Even almost a year later, I'm pretty sure Nick would remember all the hassles I went through in trying to get my car to pass emissions. How did I end up doing it? Stock DP and exhaust with boost turned down. It was the only way. |
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10-15-2010, 11:18 PM | #1475 |
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My stock td04 has bad seals and was leaking/smoking oil but has no shaft play... and so after reading ALOT of this discussion I have a question that I am gonna ask Blouch soon over the phone but wanted to ask it here first if anybody can help me out/add some input.
I don't have enough money right now to upgrade TMIC, or FP, or injectors, but I do need my car back on the road not smoking and burning oil. Do you think Blouch would port and polish my turbo and add new seals for a decent price? Last edited by 03blackwrx02yellowsv; 10-15-2010 at 11:30 PM. |
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