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Old 08-06-2009, 09:17 AM   #1
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Default What does Subaru have in store for the 2010 auto show season?

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The 2010 auto show season is about to launch. What will Subaru be showing?

Frankfurt is next month and it's rumored that Toyota will show a concept (I'm assuming it's a concept) of their Subaru-Toyota RWD coupe. That should give us a pretty good idea as to what this vehicle will look like. I also expect Subaru to debut the Euro-spec 2010 Legacy and Outback-and with the diesel, of course. The question is will it be offered with the CVT in addition to the 6-speed manual?

In October there's the Tokyo auto show. I haven't a clue, but I'm sure Subaru will have something new on hand, as this show only occurs every other year. Maybe a concept version of their RWD coupe? Also, being in Japan, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Legacy STI concept.

Then in November is the LA show. I don't expect anything from Subaru to be announced here, as they don't usually use this show to announce vehicles. Then again, the Baja concept (STX) debuted at LA if I'm not mistaken...

In January there's the Detroit show. I expect something new here from Subaru. The Subie concept version of the Toyota coupe? Maybe showing up as a hybrid with electric motors powering the front wheels?

Chicago? Nah, Subaru has never used this February show to announce anything new. I doubt that will change.

Geneva in March might see something? A while back there were some rumors of a high-performance WRX diesel; might we see that? Maybe a 2.5L version? Remember Europe is diesel-crazy.

In NY, which is in late March/early April-and Subaru always uses this show to announce something. I'm guessing they will "leak" news that the 2011 STI sedan will be there-and then surprise us on the press day by also showing the US-spec Forester (or Outback?) diesel. Remember they pulled a similar stunt last year at New York by leaking news of the Legacy ahead of time, and then surprising us also with the Outback on press day. Could happen again...

Lastly, the Beijing auto show, in April, will likely show vehicles that pertain to the emerging Chinese market. I don't expect any world debuts there, but I could be wrong.

Oh... this is just pure speculation on my part, with no insider's info, but based on studying Subaru show debuts for years, and what we know is in the works.

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I think you are forgetting the Tokyo motor show.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:50 AM   #3
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While I'm interested to see the Toyota/Subaru coupe, I'm really hoping for the US spec diesel. Hope you're right.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:52 AM   #4
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I think you are forgetting the Tokyo motor show.
Right you are! I knew there was something in October, I just couldn't remember what. I'll update my original post. Thanks.

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Old 08-06-2009, 10:08 AM   #5
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i predict a forester xt sports and a performance version of the legacy gt, hopefully legacy STI. that would be great!
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:10 AM   #6
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Right you are! I knew there was something in October, I just couldn't remember what. I'll update my original post. Thanks.

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2 door coupe in tokyo (toyota will show this off)
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:40 AM   #7
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I also expect Subaru to debut the Euro-spec 2010 Legacy and Outback—and with the diesel, of course. The question is will it be offered with the CVT in addition to the 6-speed manual?
No. A CVT version of the Diesel is not included in the 2010 model year.
We already have all the dealer informations here.
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:42 AM   #8
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No. A CVT version of the Diesel is not included in the 2010 model year.
We already have all the dealer informations here.
We know nothing as to what will be offered in Europe.

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Old 08-06-2009, 11:01 AM   #9
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I think he's in Europe.
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:27 AM   #10
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:06 PM   #11
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I think he's in Europe.
Could be. Even so, I haven't seen anything published yet on the specs/content of the European version of the 2010 Legacy and Outback.

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Old 08-06-2009, 12:17 PM   #12
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20th anniversary concept of the 2012 SVX Hybrid 2dr Coupe ???????????
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:20 PM   #13
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From the Subaru New Zealand site:

http://www.subaru.co.nz/About_Subaru...p?article=1252

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The full Legacy and Outback range which will include 3.6-litre six-cylinder models, the 2.5-litre turbocharged Legacy GT and a Boxer diesel engine with a wider choice of transmission options will go on sale in September.
Okay, this implies that the diesel will get a wider choice of transmission options, no?

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Old 08-06-2009, 01:03 PM   #14
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http://www.subaru.co.nz/About_Subaru...p?article=1252



Okay, this implies that the diesel will get a wider choice of transmission options, no?

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I think there might be a comma missing after 'engine' (or replace 'with' with 'and')
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:03 PM   #15
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A "concept" of an all-new 7 or 8-seater? (wishfully thinking)
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:41 PM   #16
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I think there might be a comma missing after 'engine' (or replace 'with' with 'and')
So, reading between the lines here, it sounds like the CVT is not quite ready for a diesel release yet?

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Old 08-06-2009, 02:13 PM   #17
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So, reading between the lines here, it sounds like the CVT is not quite ready for a diesel release yet?

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tbh, for other markets we don't really know. As diesel isn't sold here, we in communications don't keep up with developments.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:20 PM   #18
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tbh, for other markets we don't really know. As diesel isn't sold here, we in communications don't keep up with developments.
Well, we'll know soon enough, as the NZ-spec Legacys and Outbacks go on sale next month.

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Old 08-06-2009, 02:43 PM   #19
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tbh, for other markets we don't really know. As diesel isn't sold here, we in communications don't keep up with developments.
SOA Blog, what is the official reason for the diesel not being in the US again?
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:49 PM   #21
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i predict continued lack of decent iPod integration, but a new 7-disc changer!
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STi versions and Diesel versions of the new Legacy. Probably the Impreza STi sedan.
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SOA Blog, what is the official reason for the diesel not being in the US again?
a small market for diesel product. Hoping to see it grow enough to justify the investment in bringing a diesel over.
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Could be. Even so, I haven't seen anything published yet on the specs/content of the European version of the 2010 Legacy and Outback.

Bob
I'm from Germany and working at a dealership.
These informations haven't yet been "published", but handed out to dealers weeks ago.

Diesel is definitely only 6-speed manual, and the 3.6 engine is only available for Outback, not for Legacy 4-door and wagon.
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I'm from Germany and working at a dealership.
These informations haven't yet been "published", but handed out to dealers weeks ago.

Diesel is definitely only 6-speed manual, and the 3.6 engine is only available for Outback, not for Legacy 4-door and wagon.
Thanks. Any other tidbits that you can share? Are you getting the 2.5 turbo in the Legacy?

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