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Old 12-14-2015, 02:23 AM   #151
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They ran it in WTAC 2015. I heard on 630 ish whp. Not sure though.

They are still testing as far as I know. Still not taking orders till they are completely sure. However it ran fine during WTAC.
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Old 03-14-2016, 01:41 PM   #152
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Old 03-14-2016, 03:47 PM   #153
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Did anything ever happen with this?
How about FTW a 3.0 block?
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:18 PM   #154
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Old 08-30-2016, 11:46 PM   #155
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:42 AM   #156
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DUDE, we know you're a nut hugger. Release your lips and take a breath

Giving people misinformation isn't helping anyone. Besides, that wasn't even a billet block...just another one of those closed deck blocks from JJ, Rick, Jim and the crew.
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Old 09-02-2016, 01:49 PM   #157
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Old 09-02-2016, 06:55 PM   #158
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If you're milling a billet block, then you're essentially milling a completely custom block/engine. With that in mind, I can't quite see why you wouldn't increase the deck height by say, 20mm, and run 150.5mm rods. You can already run the bores out to 103mmish without issue IIRC.

This gives you almost 2.8L with a 1.81 rod ratio. Ok so you'd have to get a custom length timing belt and rods made but if you're at this level those costs are trivial.


Why people try to strengthen a crappy design/geometry when they have this kind of budget is beyond me. It is turd polishing of the highest order.
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Old 09-06-2016, 10:35 AM   #159
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Don't forget to drill the holes in the chassis so that you can pull spark plugs

They did ad some features. The only real strengths I see are the stronger parent material and the added main bolts. I'm assuming they also added some material down near the main/sleeve web for the added stability to the sleeves. I know that up at 1000+ whp they were seeing degradation of the cast/closed deck blocks.

I'd be hoping to see some tweaks in the G-code for some knock-sensor pads on each cylinder...

...but I don't have the money for it, so I'm just gonna sit here with my popcorn
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Old 09-06-2016, 12:33 PM   #160
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They also added material around the head studs so you can run bigger than 1/2 and actually work better
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Old 09-06-2016, 03:23 PM   #161
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If you're milling a billet block, then you're essentially milling a completely custom block/engine. With that in mind, I can't quite see why you wouldn't increase the deck height by say, 20mm, and run 150.5mm rods. You can already run the bores out to 103mmish without issue IIRC.

This gives you almost 2.8L with a 1.81 rod ratio. Ok so you'd have to get a custom length timing belt and rods made but if you're at this level those costs are trivial.


Why people try to strengthen a crappy design/geometry when they have this kind of budget is beyond me. It is turd polishing of the highest order.
My theory is that there is little to no engineering going on and people are scared of making an investment with so many unknowns. It's a lot easier to take an OEM block, scan it into a basic CAD/CAM program with a cheap scanning arm, and fill in the rest.

If I had the time/resources I'd actually do a little homework and follow the line of what you are thinking.
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:09 PM   #162
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I really fail to see how it's at all difficult to just add 20mm to the deck height and change nothing else. All you need to do further is get a belt with a few extra teeth and some custom rods that really aren't all that custom. There seems to be little to it.
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Old 09-07-2016, 02:49 AM   #163
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You'd need custom manifold's top and bottom as well + any clearance issues with the subframe / other stuff in the engine bay
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Old 09-07-2016, 06:58 AM   #164
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While I think 20mm is Alil much I def agree on having higher deck heights.

I'd have options for one that's slightly larger so you could deck it a few times and get away with stock size manifolds (slot the holes little larger for the room) and one that has a higher deck that still fits between the frame rails. Even if you had to jack up the motor to remove the plugs and get custom manifolds at this price range I think that's kinda a mute point....any advantage should be taken care of.

IMO: these billet blocks arnt going sell well. Very low demand for this cause of price and A 2.5l CD can handle most people's needs. Id go built eg33 before this since price would probably be about the same but you'd gain .8-1.1L more displacement
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Old 09-07-2016, 07:17 AM   #165
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You'd need custom manifold's top and bottom as well + any clearance issues with the subframe / other stuff in the engine bay
They're already way past that point if they're at billet block point.

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While I think 20mm is Alil much I def agree on having higher deck heights.

I'd have options for one that's slightly larger so you could deck it a few times and get away with stock size manifolds (slot the holes little larger for the room) and one that has a higher deck that still fits between the frame rails. Even if you had to jack up the motor to remove the plugs and get custom manifolds at this price range I think that's kinda a mute point....any advantage should be taken care of.

IMO: these billet blocks arnt going sell well. Very low demand for this cause of price and A 2.5l CD can handle most people's needs. Id go built eg33 before this since price would probably be about the same but you'd gain .8-1.1L more displacement
Yes, agreed, it would only be some aaaaabsolutely niche market where you can change just about everything except number of cylinders or something.
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:39 PM   #166
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While I think 20mm is Alil much I def agree on having higher deck heights.

I'd have options for one that's slightly larger so you could deck it a few times and get away with stock size manifolds (slot the holes little larger for the room) and one that has a higher deck that still fits between the frame rails. Even if you had to jack up the motor to remove the plugs and get custom manifolds at this price range I think that's kinda a mute point....any advantage should be taken care of.

IMO: these billet blocks arnt going sell well. Very low demand for this cause of price and A 2.5l CD can handle most people's needs. Id go built eg33 before this since price would probably be about the same but you'd gain .8-1.1L more displacement
You can still stroke, sleeve and/or closed deck an EG33. 3.7 liter is easy.

That manifold solution like that won't fly at billet block power levels. Spend $10k on a block to half @$$ the rest of it.


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Yeah, it was something Dom and I had discussed a long time ago, when ERL was super decking Hondas (2006). Then we saw the laundry list stacking up and the spark plug issue...went know where.
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You can still stroke, sleeve and/or closed deck an EG33. 3.7 liter is easy.

That manifold solution like that won't fly at billet block power levels. Spend $10k on a block to half @$$ the rest of.
Yep and they still rev out well!! I dont understand why it's such a rare setup her in the states.

If your talking about slotting the holes I agree but I'm sure you can get away with it to a extent without any real negative effect. full custom manifolds and the tallest deck available would be the way to go and if your shooting for 1200-1500 OTS stuff isn't probably a good choice anyway.
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bumping wish good luck at WTAC 2017!

Green Hulk: http://www.worldtimeattack.com/index...-1000hp-punch/

not running WIllAll's block. running Bullet's Billet block.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:04 PM   #169
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Hi Everyone,

We will soon be assembling a EJ27 billet block for our time attack car known as the HULK.

Here is the car.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

And here is the block on the mill last week.

https://www.facebook.com/Autotech.ST...type=1&theater

I'm not sure if I've done the photos right, so I hope these work. Anyway, we are not new to making big power in Subaru's and have plans to try push this baby to 1000hp at the crank. Hoping to improve our World Time Attack ranking from 3rd in Pro-Am 2013 to 1st Pro-Am in 2013.

I'll post more details and photos as we progress.

Interested to hear what people think of the project?

Regards,

Jason...
That's going to be rad, good luck with it!
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