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03-06-2013, 05:57 PM | #2451 |
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Adding any options pulls that guy into the low to mid 40's awfully quick. (It does not come with leather, for instance). I do LOVE the 2.2L turbodiesel option with the 7-speed A/T and it's a good looking car, but I think I'd opt for a loaded (or near-loaded - I am not in need of eyesight et al, but I <3 push-button start :P) XT, an extended warranty, and pocket the difference, myself.
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03-06-2013, 08:34 PM | #2452 |
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Oh man.
Dealer near me has a '13 Forester Premium, 5spd. 63 months at 0%. White. Could probably walk out the door with it for $22k or less. Decisions. |
03-06-2013, 09:02 PM | #2453 |
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03-06-2013, 10:52 PM | #2454 | |
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03-07-2013, 12:46 AM | #2455 | ||||
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03-07-2013, 01:43 AM | #2456 |
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03-07-2013, 08:58 AM | #2457 |
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03-07-2013, 10:45 AM | #2458 |
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03-07-2013, 10:54 AM | #2459 | |
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What are these nice options you speak of in the base $39k? |
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03-07-2013, 12:12 PM | #2460 | |
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Fuel economy isn't terrible for a +300hp SUV. It is similar to the '13 XT. 25/19/21 vs 24/19/21. Yes the new 2.0 XT gets another ~3mpg boost which is really nice. It has a 3,500 lbs towing capacity vs. 1,500 lbs on the 2.0 XT. Yes the GLK needs premium however the 2.0XT should probably be run with premium as well. Sure you can run regular, but you are going to get less hp and less mpg. Running premium is really a mute point between the two. Yes the GLK comes on 19" stock with 20" as an option. The 2.0XT comes with 18" stock with no ability to upgrade. I don't disagree that MB (just about all European manufacturers) has pricey options. That is to be expected. But a few standard features that come to mind are; start-stop feature, much nicer design and fit and finish of interior, dual zone climate control (like XT), power memory driver seat, it comes with AUX in and USB so not sure what you are talking about in reference to a $3500 option for iPod/iPhone connectivity. Yes the MB is pricier than the XT Limited but for some people that might be worth it. I would never buy a GLK new, but might consider a lightly used one some day. In my opinion, better styling than the Subaru, nicer interior than Subaru, V6 > turbo 4, 7 speed auto > CVT. Is the GLK perfect? Hell no. But it is another option for someone considering a 2.0XT Touring. |
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03-07-2013, 01:42 PM | #2461 |
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Keep in mind that for both the GLK and Forester (and for many other vehicles as well) those "maximum" towing capacites apply only when towing a trailer with brakes. Without trailer brakes the capacity is less. Couldn't find the unbraked capacity for the GLK, but for the 2014 Forester, 2013 Outback 3.6R, 2013 Mazda CX-5, 2012 Acura MDX, and many others, the unbraked towing capacity is the same 1000 lbs.
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03-07-2013, 03:21 PM | #2462 | |
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They probably just grabbed the "cooler" looking concept shots to say this was going to be hybrid. Look at the cameras in place of mirrors. You really expect that to be production? Even with real mirrors, if it looks like that, that will be pretty nice. |
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03-07-2013, 03:48 PM | #2463 |
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Not sure; however, I believe that the "HV" designation is hybrid, as indicated - read the article (translated). I will concede that the picture is of the concept (XV).
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03-07-2013, 04:43 PM | #2464 |
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I'd drive a current XV in that color. I like it.
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03-07-2013, 05:05 PM | #2465 | |
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The Forester's tow rating is for the trailer weight and it's load only. In other words, you do not have to subtract the weight of vehicle occupants, vehicle load, and hitch weight from the 1500 lbs. |
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03-07-2013, 06:51 PM | #2466 | |
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03-07-2013, 10:37 PM | #2467 | |
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http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=CX9 It is under "Engine & Mechanical." Scroll to the bottom where it has "Weights and Capacities." CX-9 has it listed as "(3500 with Tow Prep Package)." |
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03-07-2013, 10:56 PM | #2468 |
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It is the concept, that's it. BUT, I could see that as being the hybrids grill. Other manufacturers close up the grill for aerodynamics for hybrids and that concept has the wider wings. I hope they refresh the bumper for the hybrid. Make it stand out like the XV vs Impreza bumper.
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03-08-2013, 08:26 AM | #2469 |
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Brochures and model web pages are marketing materials. I always check the owners manual to find out all the restrictions that apply to the specifications shown in the brochure.
https://www.mymazda.com/MusaWeb/pdf/...013_CX5_OM.pdf http://techinfo.subaru.com/proxy/708...03ASTIS_15.pdf When it comes to warranty claims, it is the owners manual that will get referenced, not any marketing material. I'd be curious if the CX-9, with the towing prep package, is pre-wired for a trailer brake controller? Per the owners manual, the CX-9 can only tow 1000 lbs with an unbraked trailer. 2000 lbs with a braked trailer but without tow prep package, and 3500 lbs with a braked trailer and tow prep package. Again, per Mazda's method of rating, the amount that can be towed drops as vehicle load goes up. https://www.mymazda.com/MusaWeb/pdf/...013_CX9_OM.pdf The 2014 Forester on the other hand can still tow the full 1500 lbs with a braked trailer even with the vehicle loaded to allowable limits. Last edited by Scottie; 03-08-2013 at 09:44 AM. |
03-08-2013, 09:57 AM | #2470 |
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We just recieved our first shipment of 2014's, I couldn't be more excited!!
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03-08-2013, 10:20 AM | #2471 |
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03-08-2013, 10:49 AM | #2472 |
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Only one dealer in MA is listed as having '14s through Subaru of New England. I have a call into my local sales person to call me when the 14s show up and a Base or premium MT is ready for a test drive.
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03-08-2013, 01:48 PM | #2473 | |
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I could not find the vehicle weight or a GVWR (fully loaded weight) for the '14 Forester in the , general, specifications or driving tips documents???? I would say it is a shame that SOA will only list the tow rating for the Forester as if it were completely loaded to GVWR as the allowable max at all times. Peace, Greg |
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03-08-2013, 02:33 PM | #2474 | ||||
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How did that go from a CX-5(which competes with the Forester) to a CX-9 V-6(that does not)? |
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03-08-2013, 03:35 PM | #2475 |
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I took the example(s) as the difference in documentation and numbers between manufacturers. I don't think there was a comparison to the CX-9. It is just that the CX-9 has better example of de-ratting.
And maybe that is the point. SOA does not expect anyone to really tow anything with the forester. I would say that is a shame. Peace, Greg |
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