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06-29-2009, 07:54 PM | #1 |
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All Season Tires
I just bought a 09 WRX STi and want to get a set of all season tires plus a set of wheels that i can swap in and out. What are your thoughts on either:
Continental ExtremeContact DWS Toyo Proxes 4 I can get the Conti's at TireRack. If i decide to go for the Toyo's, where do you suggest that i look for those?
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06-29-2009, 08:09 PM | #2 |
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i've had very good luck with the toyo's. They work well in all conditions, even light to moderate snow. Leschwab sells them. No experience with the other.
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06-29-2009, 08:29 PM | #3 |
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pirelli p zero Nero m&s had them in my old wrx .
they did very well in the dry- very good in the wet and good in the snow as long as the snow wasn't too deep . a little bit of trim lining if the roads are grooved pretty bad . other wise a very good all season tire . |
06-29-2009, 08:45 PM | #4 |
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Why you looking for all seasons? I mean if you are planning to have a different set of wheels to mount them on, why not get a dedicated winter tire? I got the 09 WRX and did that, the difference of a dedicated winter tire is unbelievable! An all season tire is best at nothing, and average at every season, where as a summer tire is awesome in the warmer months, and a winter tire is best in the winter months.
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06-29-2009, 08:58 PM | #5 | |
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being in urban areas makes it very hard to have space to keep dedicated winter or summer tires with rims in storage ! look at it this way average rent in my neighborhood for 2 bedrooms average 1.100 to 1.400 a month or if you own a home home around me average 500.000 to over a million dollars . space is a commodity in urban areas, that's reason for people to have all season tires. |
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06-29-2009, 09:02 PM | #6 |
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I'm currently running the ExtremeContact DWS in 225/45/17 on my '06 WRX. I'm very happy with them. The steering reponse is a little slower than the Fuzion ZRi tires I was running, but I'm also running the Contis at 33 psi vs. the Fuzions at 38 psi. The ride is amazing compared the Fuzions (even at 32/33 psi) and the RE92s that came OEM on the car. They have more grip than the RE92s. More grip than I will ever realistically use.
So far they handle rain and standing water incredibly well. I've gone through some puddles that were surprisingly deep (as in OH SHI~ deep) and I've never felt the steering wheel tug or any of the nonsense I got with the RE92s and Fuzions. In short, I enjoy them and will probably air them up to 38 psi or so to see how big a tradeoff there is between steering reponse and ride harshness. So far no real complaints. Oh, and they're pretty quiet. |
06-29-2009, 10:07 PM | #7 | |
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Has anyone had any issues with after market wheels since the car is equipped with tire pressure sensor? |
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06-29-2009, 10:23 PM | #8 | |
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06-29-2009, 10:57 PM | #9 |
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06-30-2009, 12:19 AM | #10 |
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I rock the Bridgestone Potenzas. i love them i got the at burt brothers
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06-30-2009, 12:30 AM | #11 |
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06-30-2009, 07:16 AM | #12 | ||
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However if you want to go with an all-season you won't find one tire that does it all. You can either get a tire that feels firm and responsive, but it won't be great in bad weather and will probably wear quickly. If you get a durable tire with a good multi-purpose tread pattern you'll be able to go just about anywhere, but it will feel mushy while you do so. Its like trying to find a pair of shoes you can wear year round in all circumstances - with your best suit, when you go out jogging, when doing yard work, when its snowing. There is no such shoe. |
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06-30-2009, 09:21 AM | #13 |
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tires shops in n.y.city yea right ! you will never see your tires and rims again trust me !
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06-30-2009, 11:22 AM | #14 |
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Howl makes the key point of temperature. Regardless of snowfall amounts, one should have tires that operate properly at specific temperatures, and all-season's don't fully solve that problem. But if you have to go all-season, read the test results on tire rack or a similar site and find the one that will suit your specific needs. I'm still on my OEM potenza's, they work fine for my driving style(WRX rear sway helps) but I'm gonna spring for two sets since I have the space for storage.
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06-30-2009, 12:50 PM | #15 |
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All season's? Bridgestone Potenzas RE960 Pole Positions are the best all season tires I have ever used. I have those in my Camry and it made a night and day difference over other all season tires I've tried.
Anyway I would never use an all season tire in a STi. Either you have 2 sets (summer and winter if you live up north) or just summer (Like Extreme performance or Max performance tires). Otherwise why did you bought that car?! Why downgrade it like that! I run Dunlop Direzza sport z1 star spec tires on the STi (255 wide on 17 X 9). |
06-30-2009, 02:44 PM | #16 |
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I love my Toyo Proxes 4 tires so much I am getting a new set next month. The ones I have on the car now have about 30k miles on them and they are beat.
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06-30-2009, 04:34 PM | #17 |
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I'm using Bridgestone Potenza 960AS. They do far better in the dry, rain , light snow (less than 8 inches)than the stock re92's that came with my car. They have a treadwear rating of 400 so they should last a long time as long as you rotate your tires regularly. Hope that helps. You can get them from www.tirerack.com
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06-30-2009, 06:02 PM | #18 |
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Thank you all so much. I really like all the information and appreciate the opinions.
I had an 2000 Audi A4 Quattro and drove it with summer tires for 30,000 miles through warm, cold, rain, sleet and snow cause i didnt know better. I never detected slippage until the snow was over 6 inches and the tires had 28k miles. Being a little older and wiser i dont want to make that mistake again. My only concern now is thinking that winter tires would be effective but are they overkill for Philadelphia, PA suburban winters? I thought that all seasons would be good enough, what are you thoughts? |
06-30-2009, 09:07 PM | #19 |
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They're not overkill. Philly stays below 45 for most of the winter. Winter tires are not all about snow, they're also about temperature. Get true winters and just change them out. You can probably get away with more like 8 months for your summers and only 4 months for your winters where most people can't but it still makes sense for the second set to be winters.
Summer + all season doesn't make much sense. All season tires aren't great at anything and performance winters ain't that bad on a dry road, ESPECIALLY when it's cold. |
06-30-2009, 09:30 PM | #20 |
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I live in Exton and All Season tires have performed fine for me. Since you have an STI and if you have the money I would run winters and summers. I personally do not because I don't want to buy 2 sets of tires. Tons of people run all season tires around here, most of it depends on how you drive.
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06-30-2009, 09:51 PM | #21 |
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I had Proxes4's for a while. They were great tires (spring, summer and fall) but they didn't last very long. And when the tread got too low they hydroplaned like crazy.
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06-30-2009, 10:18 PM | #22 |
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Like I said, a lot depends on how the user drives. I got 30k out of my Proxes4's and am still on the bald beat things and don't hydroplane at all. I guess since I know the tread is low I don't push the tires past the limits of what they are capable of.
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07-01-2009, 11:12 AM | #23 |
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Goodyear Eagle GT all season
I just bought an 09 wrx and am new to this forum, but what I got for all season tires were the goodyear eagle gt all seasons. They ride very quiet and have a good looking tread on them with a warranty for up to 50,000 miles. Something to consider... I enjoy them very much
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