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View Poll Results: Which turbo inlet hose should I go with?
Samco 13 32.50%
APS 27 67.50%
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Old 01-03-2007, 05:44 PM   #1
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Default APS turbo inlet Vs. Samco turbo inlet

So... I have the red Samco turbo inlet as of now, and I want to change it with the APS one, so I can polish it *it's for my engine bay theme ; blue, gold, & polished*.

the real question is, which one do you think will perform better? should I go with the APS or should I just go with the blue Samco inlet? please let me know the reasons too

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Old 01-03-2007, 06:05 PM   #2
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APS all the way and here is why:

APS pipe has a much larger inner diameter
APS pipe has larger radius bends
APS pipe works with BOTH 2.4" and 3" turbos
APS pipe includes DETAILED instructions as well as everything you actually need to hookup the breather/pcv/wgsolenoid/etc
APS pipe cannot collapse like the perrin is notorious for
APS only costs $50 more
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:14 PM   #3
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APS all the way and here is why:

APS pipe has a much larger inner diameter
APS pipe has larger radius bends
APS pipe works with BOTH 2.4" and 3" turbos
APS pipe includes DETAILED instructions as well as everything you actually need to hookup the breather/pcv/wgsolenoid/etc
APS pipe cannot collapse like the perrin is notorious for
APS only costs $50 more
w00t... thank you for the brief explanation...

P.S. the APS one is actually cheaper than the Samco hose
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:25 PM   #4
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Oh whoops, I thought I was comparing the Perrin. I would still say the Samco is better than the Perrin, but it IS a lot more expensive.
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:27 PM   #5
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I agree with nhluhr on all points, the APS is a much better unit. That said, the APS is significantly more involved to install than either Samco or Perrin.

Oh and I thought the Perrin collapse problems were only with the first-gen 4-ply units? Switching to 6-ply solved the problem?
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:27 PM   #6
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APS, no question. Normally I wouldn't buy an APS item, but their turbo inlet is a different story.
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:55 PM   #7
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yes to APS
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thanks for all the inputs guys... I'm gonna order it once I take care of my ticket...
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i have all aps stuff. my only beef is the silicon piece that goes from the inlet to the turbo. all that extra flow is just about cutoff by that one piece.
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APS all the way and here is why:

APS pipe has a much larger inner diameter
APS pipe has larger radius bends
APS pipe works with BOTH 2.4" and 3" turbos
APS pipe includes DETAILED instructions as well as everything you actually need to hookup the breather/pcv/wgsolenoid/etc
APS pipe cannot collapse like the perrin is notorious for
APS only costs $50 more
I have a Perrin 3 inch inlet and the APS inlet. The APS inlet won't fit with my 3 " inch SZ55. It just won't, I have to grind the block to attempt to fit it in. I did like the instruction but it is a hard install. I end up with everything from the APS inlet (including the relocated fuel regulator, hoses...) but with the Perrin inlet which is a very tight fit by itself.
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:30 AM   #11
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i have all aps stuff. my only beef is the silicon piece that goes from the inlet to the turbo. all that extra flow is just about cutoff by that one piece.
do tell... and pics??
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w00t... can't wait anymore... just ordered it... hope it will be here soon
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Boo to APS. Beyond PITA to install, and their stupid tapered silicone piece actually pinches the air going to my 20g. So great its a huge diameter pipe but the silicone piece is a bottleneck.
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The APS is the nicest one, but they ALL bottleneck. The Perrin no longer collapses.

I wouldn't worry about size/diameter, as there is always a restriction some where. I went with a Perrin because my vendor offered me a great price on one, which he couldn't do on the APS. Would I prefer an APS? Yes, however, I don't think spending extra money on the APS is worth it as I don't believe there's a performance difference, nor do I worry about my Perrin collapsing.
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Boo to APS. Beyond PITA to install, and their stupid tapered silicone piece actually pinches the air going to my 20g. So great its a huge diameter pipe but the silicone piece is a bottleneck.
Pressure drop is not just going to happen all at the bottleneck. It's like drawing air through a really long straw or a really short straw. The taper down at the end is nothing compared to the full length small-diameter tube of the stock or of the silicone variants. With those, you have continuous bottleneck and it all adds up.
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