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Old 12-16-2008, 12:52 PM   #51
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yeah i hope they get back into it once the economy gets better.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:58 PM   #52
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A small part of me applauds Subaru for saying no we aren't buying into the "spec" racing crap. Another part of me is hurting to see a great car company give up there single most important and lucrative marketing strategy. Everyone knew Subaru as "that car that jumps on the gravel roads".

I am not looking forward to Subaru/ Toyota combined cars. There is a reason I buy Subaru's. It's because THEY AREN'T TOYOTA.

Kia, here I come.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:00 PM   #53
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they need to release fwd, diesel, hybrid and maybe electric. and i hope that u.s. would let them sell that here as well because economy stinks, i mean ford makes good cars for everyone except u.s. thats why they are going down. goverment needs to take some action fast because this isn't good news for them either.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:11 PM   #54
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Mitsubushi hasn't been in WRC for years, and they still have the EVO... I don't think we have anything to worry about, cars don't get built that fast... maybe this will open the doors for the Turbo Diesal when Subaru returns to rally... which would mean we would get the turbo diesel here in the states possibly?
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:16 PM   #55
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Man I wish this was an April Fools joke....but its December
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:22 PM   #56
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The main thing that got me interested in my '06 STi was watching WRC on SPEED channel.

This is a sad day for me .....
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:25 PM   #57
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What are these guys gonna do?



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Old 12-16-2008, 01:28 PM   #58
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well, as much as it pains me to say it, if subaru pulls out of rally, then doesnt that give them the opportunity to challenge other 'road' races? i mean one of the biggest appealing thing about my car i thought is that somehow, my car would be indestructable like the ones you see on rally, and i guess when i was buying the wrx, it led me to think, 'if they jump and flip this $hit every now and then and still drives, this car must be crazy reliable' kind of a thing.

but, how many people that arent car enthusiasts know about rally over F1 races or other form of 'road' racing? knowing how fast drifting is catching on, this may be just a smart move for subaru... i mean, how many of us actually drive on dirt or snow everyday? 90% of our driving is done on paved road and frankly i`d rather have subaru have the chance to research and hoan the cars that will be driven on paved road (think small width tires, long travel suspension, puny swaybars, etc exchanged for sharper road car).

now, if toyota says no racing for you subaru, then it will really really suck..

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Old 12-16-2008, 01:33 PM   #59
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Chop top older vw bugs anyone? Flat engines for life!
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:41 PM   #60
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/cry =(

I think a part of all of us has died today....
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:47 PM   #61
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Subaru hasn't been doing well in recent years, not only in WRC but in general. '08 STI's are selling for several thousand under invoice. Most everyone who owns an Impreza and really loves it is not just happy but damn proud of its rally heritage. The Impreza is nothing without the WRC. You could say the same for the Legacy. Its a sad day.
For the record, the new rules for the upcoming season dictate a "spec" style of classing where all cars have an inline 4-cylinder engine. That quite obviously eliminates Subaru from the running and in this economy they are not going to develop a new engine.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:53 PM   #62
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What are these guys gonna do?



They are all going to go to PWRC races and local stuff. You guys act like Subaru is pulling out of ALL RALLY EVERYWHERE and that's not the case. Sure this sucks but it not the end of Subaru rally altogether, just the end of SWRT in the WRC.

The STi will be around for a long time to come. Subaru will be doing it's thing in everything but the WRC for years to come. Maybe now the rest of the wide world of rally will get some light shed upon it.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:59 PM   #63
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Subaru hasn't been doing well in recent years, not only in WRC but in general. '08 STI's are selling for several thousand under invoice.
Yeah, blame the economy. November was a tough month for everyone.

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They are all going to go to PWRC races and local stuff. You guys act like Subaru is pulling out of ALL RALLY EVERYWHERE and that's not the case. Sure this sucks but it not the end of Subaru rally altogether, just the end of SWRT in the WRC.
Exactly. There hasn't been very good coverage (legally available) of the WRC for a while now.

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Old 12-16-2008, 02:01 PM   #64
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It's so weird to me that they would pull out. Especially considering that Subaru really made their mark in the WRC and gained allot of street cred because of it. Maybe they should re-enter with the same body style from 05; the last time they won.
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:07 PM   #65
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Maybe they should re-enter with the same body style from 05; the last time they won.
They can't with the new rules. That was a Flat 4 also. They were basically outlawed due to the engine layout. The new rules require an inline 4 and Subaru isn't going to develop a new motor/chassis/car just for that. I wouldn't do it either.

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Old 12-16-2008, 02:07 PM   #66
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how the hell does ford afford to stay in it??
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:08 PM   #67
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Ford is only having issues selling cars here...because they sell crap here.
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:11 PM   #68
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So does this mean I have to take off my rally mudflaps too?
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:13 PM   #69
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So does this mean I have to take off my rally mudflaps too?
NO! It means I have to peel off my WRC sticker and get a Rally America one though
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NO! It means I have to peel off my WRC sticker and get a Rally America one though
Just add the Rally America one.
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:17 PM   #71
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do you think they will also pull out of all motorsports like the road racing team and rally america series.. this is very depressing
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:20 PM   #72
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Ford is only having issues selling cars here...because they sell crap here.
well issues selling cars does sound like it could equal issues with the company making money (which is obvious now). but given that subaru is struggling to make money, youd think with ford's dilemna now they couldnt afford to stay in wrc as well
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It's so weird to me that they would pull out. Especially considering that Subaru really made their mark in the WRC and gained allot of street cred because of it. Maybe they should re-enter with the same body style from 05; the last time they won.
Except they haven't won a driver's championship since '03.
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It seems like we are reading too much into this. It doesn't make sense, imho, for Subaru to develop an inline-4 engine. Therefore, they should pull out of WRC.

I think the corporate direction of Subaru's future designs is a separate issue. Not that the assumptions in this thread are necessarily wrong, but I think the WRC move is a small part of that which may be moot at this point.
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:30 PM   #75
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Just add the Rally America one.
WRC for life!
I won't advertise for a series that would out their most loyal fanbase with stupid rule changes like that.

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do you think they will also pull out of all motorsports like the road racing team and rally america series.. this is very depressing
No. Subaru is to rally like dirt is to rally. The FIA did this more so than Subaru. inline 4's= no Subaru, 'nuff said

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well issues selling cars does sound like it could equal issues with the company making money (which is obvious now). but given that subaru is struggling to make money, youd think with ford's dilemna now they couldnt afford to stay in wrc as well
Top level motorsports are an awesome advertising method. Most of us bought our cars with visions of sliding through the woods with our turbos burning and 4 wheels spitting dirt. If we didn't get that vision we would have ended up in Volvos

Figure it costs millions for a few seconds of advertising during the Superbowl or the same amount to build a WRC car. Which one do you think will get the most coverage to the people you want to sell to?
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