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12-01-2012, 11:19 PM | #51 | |
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Do you have any insights as to what driving an 11 year old Subaru screams to the world?
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12-01-2012, 11:54 PM | #52 |
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12-02-2012, 12:06 AM | #53 | |
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But I am glad that your guys care about my opinion of your imaginary car. Check that out, I have a Rolls Royce now. |
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12-02-2012, 02:00 AM | #54 |
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Well.... the point of course wasn't that there is anything wrong with driving a 11 year old Subaru, or not driving one for that matter. It is that whatever we drive, you could say it screams we couldn't afford something better. But if you really like cars, why would you care?
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12-02-2012, 08:45 AM | #55 |
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Needs clear engine cover, otherwise the best mid engine Porsche (sans CGT). So second best mid engined Porsche.
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12-02-2012, 01:33 PM | #56 |
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But I don't think ALL of that stuff is port-installed, that's what I'm saying. The packages are legit but those chrome parts (outside of small interior things like the door will plates) and I/C pipes aren't usually Mitsu options.
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12-02-2012, 01:56 PM | #57 |
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And yet it is as I do not stock any of those parts, have never sold any of those parts and service has not even touched the car yet. Again, listed under "port installed accessories"
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12-02-2012, 02:53 PM | #58 | |
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12-07-2012, 08:51 PM | #59 |
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This is seriously one of the FUNNEST driver oriented cars there is. It has good hp for a small track/big autocross set-up. I'm sure the suspension is as close to perfect and confidence inspiring that you can get.
A guy at my local track has a cayman, I thought they were "almost there" or "girly" or "*****" porches, but with just r compound tires and wheels he kills it. This was before they converted the track to an 1/8th mile strip and smaller track section. I would love to have this thing to enjoy what driving is supposed to be. It's hilarious the same ppl hating on this love the brz...it's the same thing expect 10x better. Some ppl have a 4 door family car and need something to get the blood pumping and floss a bit on the weekend. This fits the bill. |
12-07-2012, 11:23 PM | #60 |
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Dude... Correct your spelling of Porsche or else we'll have 2 pages of people talking about putting better tires on your deck...
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12-07-2012, 11:35 PM | #61 | |
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12-07-2012, 11:37 PM | #62 |
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12-08-2012, 10:14 AM | #63 | |
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If I had the money, i would buy one, "i'm a girl with a rich dad/sugar daddy" who cares what people think. I like it. Buy what you like, not what people like. |
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12-10-2012, 01:04 PM | #64 |
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Dig the car, a lot. Two things stick out to me though. The bulkhead behind the seats is dramatically different than the previous car, I wonder what the engine cover arrangement is like now? Hopefully easier to get at the engine.
Second, the wheel size. I know it's for styling, but for Pete's sake, a 3,000lb two seat sports car does not need 19-20" wheels or the giant wheel wells to go with them. I'm sure the brakes on a Cayman S are generous, yet they look tiny inside those giant wheels. More reasonable wheels (17") will require tires that look like balloons for OEM ride height. Lots of cost, lots of weight, no purpose - stupid. Some Asian manufacturer needs to build a modern MR2 and kick Porsche in the pricing butt. Remember when the S2000 won a couple of comparos against the Boxter? That was back when the Boxter started at ~$35k. A modern FWD drivetrain mounted amidships would make for a great affordable sports car. Just look at a 2nd gen MR2 with a 2GR-SFE swap. Same goes for a modern turbo DI 4-cyl. Porsche knows they're the only ones with a decent mid-engined sports car and they price accordingly. |
12-10-2012, 04:16 PM | #65 |
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12-11-2012, 10:09 AM | #66 | |
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Subaru could have easily gone the MR route with the BRZ.. it would have been a modern day 200hp 914. The BRZ is good, but it's bloated.. if it had been a tiny MR runabout, I think they could have knocked a few hundred pounds off of it. It could have had a real front suspension, too.. Nissan could easily make a small mid-engined car with a VQ engine behind the front seats.. and sell it worldwide as both a Nissan and Renault... but no. |
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12-11-2012, 10:18 AM | #67 |
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People don't want the engine behind them, they want storage space. Hence no car company outside of specialty brands producing mid or rear engine cars.
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12-11-2012, 10:18 AM | #68 | |
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Honda actually showed a concept of a new mid-engine S2000. Imagine an updated K20Z3 with direct injection making 220+ hp and spinning to 8,000 RPM in a 2,500lb mid-engine sports car. Drool... |
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12-11-2012, 10:25 AM | #69 | |
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Don't get me wrong, I really like the BRZ, and it's a bunch more practical than an MR2, so I see why Toyobaru went that direction. I do think they missed the boat a bit on layout, it's too front heavy. |
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12-11-2012, 10:37 AM | #70 | |
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12-11-2012, 11:17 AM | #71 | |
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12-11-2012, 11:33 AM | #72 |
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Toyota is also planning other models on the BRZ platform. With a MR car you can't really do anything other than a 2 seat sports car.
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12-11-2012, 11:39 AM | #73 |
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Toyota should badge engineer the new v6 exige into the next supra. It already has a toyota drivetrain of course. Ive said it a few times hoping it will stick.
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12-11-2012, 12:22 PM | #74 |
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And? Name me a car manufacturer who doesn't have different models built to different price points? A Cayman S is ~$30k cheaper than a 911 S (base prices); why is it "artificial" for the 911 to be superior? (And frankly, the Cayman isn't all that much "inferior" considering that $30k difference; a Cayman S is dead even with a vanilla 911 Carrera, for $20k less, and probably handles better than the 911...)
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