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03-29-2006, 09:25 PM | #1 |
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Knocking on Stage 2
I'm looking for a stage 2 map for the UTEC. I keep getting knock around 4500rpm and I just want to compair my map to yours. Im currently running about 17-18 timing in that range and I'm wondering how low I can go before it becomes a problem. My AFR is ~11:1 in that range and ~17-18psi boost.
Log is below I think i need to turn my boost down more and maybe add some more fuel. My question is more about what the timing should be? And should I make the timing at the higher RPM's the same through out the 10-100 load columns so im not getting the big shift in timing when shifting? Any help would be appriciated. Also I seem to have a problem with partial throttle full boost listed in the 2nd CODE. Any hints on how to fix this? I also have a AVCR to install soon, will this help solve the PTFB issue? Thanks, Travis Mods: UTEC Turbo XS RLF TBE Turbo XS Shorty Intake Turbo XS Tuner Apexi AVCR (To Be Installed) Last edited by TravisSTi; 03-30-2006 at 06:20 AM. |
03-30-2006, 06:09 AM | #2 |
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This log is from 0-100mph done in a safe place 1st - 5th
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886 -10.6 2.2 20 00 00 +16.9 6.8 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.1 13.72 1667 -8.1 2.1 24 00 00 +32.9 7.6 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.2 13.59 1833 -5.9 2.3 24 00 00 +34.4 9.6 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.3 13.09 1948 -3.4 2.3 24 00 00 +34.1 10.7 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.4 13.59 2003 -2.0 2.4 24 00 00 +34.4 11.2 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.4 14.58 1945 -2.2 2.4 24 00 00 +33.0 11.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.4 14.30 1970 -2.0 2.4 24 00 00 +30.9 11.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.4 14.30 1949 -1.6 2.4 24 00 00 +29.1 11.8 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.5 14.37 2349 -1.2 2.6 27 00 00 +33.0 14.8 ECU. +5.1 ECU. 2.9 14.45 2574 -0.6 2.8 27 10 00 +25.6 20.1 ECU. +3.8 ECU. 2.9 14.25 2997 +0.0 3.0 28 10 00 +29.1 23.6 ECU. +1.6 ECU. 3.0 13.59 3370 +0.6 3.1 28 10 00 +31.2 28.3 ECU. +1.0 ECU. 3.1 13.28 3699 +1.1 3.1 27 10 00 +33.3 30.4 ECU. +1.4 ECU. 3.2 13.06 4110 +1.1 3.2 27 10 00 +36.8 32.4 +25.0 +0.9 ECU. 3.2 12.61 4480 +0.4 3.1 27 10 00 +38.8 29.6 +24.3 +0.9 ECU. 3.1 12.42 4642 -1.0 3.0 23 00 00 +40.6 24.9 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 2.8 12.06 4604 -3.8 1.9 0 00 00 +23.3 7.4 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.8 11.53 4397 -7.3 1.8 0 00 00 +23.2 7.4 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.8 11.12 4074 -10.2 2.0 15 00 00 +33.0 9.0 ECU. +0.1 ECU. 2.3 12.06 3220 -11.2 2.5 23 00 00 +46.3 42.8 ECU. +0.1 ECU. 2.6 13.62 3370 -8.9 3.0 35 10 00 +7.9 25.6 ECU. +1.0 337.50 3.1 13.97 3512 -5.3 3.2 40 10 00 +30.4 35.2 ECU. +1.2 350.00 3.4 14.08 3753 -1.0 3.6 42 20 00 +23.4 46.7 +24.0 +1.1 355.00 3.8 13.53 4100 +3.9 4.0 59 40 00 +16.2 66.6 +20.0 +1.2 370.00 4.1 12.61 4397 +8.4 4.2 102 70 01 +14.9 82.4 +11.8 +2.2 415.00 4.3 12.14 4823 +12.9 4.3 102 100 00 +17.6 91.6 +12.1 +1.0 400.00 4.4 11.67 5159 +16.4 4.4 103 100 00 +17.8 93.5 +12.9 +0.2 385.00 4.4 11.33 5527 +17.8 4.4 103 90 00 +18.7 98.0 +17.8 +0.7 385.00 4.5 11.28 5837 +17.6 4.5 104 90 00 +19.0 97.0 +20.4 +0.3 385.00 4.4 11.27 6082 +16.4 4.4 102 80 00 +19.5 96.7 +20.9 +0.6 390.00 4.5 11.20 6459 +15.1 4.4 83 80 00 +22.5 98.2 +22.4 +0.6 404.00 4.5 11.18 6747 +14.7 4.5 48 80 00 +26.6 95.8 +24.4 +0.7 370.00 4.1 11.23 6422 +9.6 1.7 0 00 00 +39.4 6.6 ECU. +0.4 ECU. 1.6 11.68 5767 +5.1 4.0 102 10 00 +35.9 73.1 +23.8 -0.1 385.00 4.2 12.75 5096 +4.7 4.4 104 30 00 +21.2 97.9 +22.0 +0.8 385.00 4.5 12.92 5376 +5.3 4.4 105 80 00 +19.5 99.2 +16.9 +0.8 385.00 4.5 11.89 5649 +10.4 4.4 105 90 00 +20.8 96.6 +18.0 +0.5 385.00 4.5 11.27 5797 +15.7 4.5 105 90 00 +21.4 99.1 +19.6 +0.3 385.00 4.4 11.11 6027 +16.6 4.5 106 90 00 +22.0 99.5 +21.0 +0.3 390.00 4.5 11.14 6161 +15.9 4.5 105 80 00 +23.2 ---.- +21.1 +0.5 390.00 4.5 11.23 6313 +15.3 4.4 105 80 00 +24.3 ---.- +22.1 +0.5 390.00 4.5 11.24 6485 +14.9 4.5 104 80 00 +25.6 ---.- +22.4 +0.5 390.00 4.5 11.18 7122 +14.3 4.4 11 00 00 +31.5 45.8 ECU. +0.5 390.00 3.1 11.14 6535 +8.8 1.6 47 20 00 +40.1 31.6 +26.9 -1.3 367.50 3.6 12.21 5402 +6.8 4.3 103 10 00 +26.2 89.6 +23.0 +0.2 385.00 4.4 13.65 5096 +7.4 4.4 106 70 00 +20.8 97.7 +15.9 +0.6 385.00 4.4 12.61 5324 +8.8 4.4 106 100 00 +21.5 97.4 +17.0 +0.4 385.00 4.5 11.34 5491 +15.1 4.4 106 100 00 +21.8 94.5 +17.0 +0.6 385.00 4.4 11.23 5464 +18.0 4.4 105 90 00 +22.5 97.5 +17.6 +0.7 385.00 4.5 11.18 5698 +17.2 4.4 105 90 00 +22.5 ---.- +18.8 +0.5 385.00 4.5 11.14 5807 +16.6 4.5 105 90 00 +22.8 97.5 +19.4 +0.3 385.00 4.5 11.18 5847 +16.6 4.5 105 90 00 +23.0 99.2 +20.2 +0.3 385.00 4.5 11.18 6006 +16.4 4.4 104 90 00 +23.2 99.2 +20.8 +0.3 385.00 4.4 11.33 6027 +15.9 4.4 104 80 00 +23.6 97.8 +20.8 +0.6 390.00 4.5 11.27 6038 +15.7 4.4 88 80 00 +24.2 ---.- +21.1 +0.6 406.00 4.5 11.14 6242 +15.1 4.5 102 80 00 +25.0 97.6 +20.9 +0.5 390.00 4.5 11.11 6301 +14.9 4.4 103 80 00 +25.6 98.8 +21.6 +0.5 390.00 4.5 11.14 6435 +14.7 4.5 102 80 00 +26.5 ---.- +22.2 +0.5 390.00 4.5 11.18 6485 +14.7 4.5 103 80 00 +27.8 ---.- +23.2 +0.6 390.00 4.5 11.20 6600 +15.1 4.5 62 80 00 +29.0 ---.- +23.9 +0.6 390.00 4.3 11.30 6472 +10.0 1.9 0 00 00 +23.0 5.8 ECU. +0.4 ECU. 1.4 11.62 5602 +4.9 3.6 92 10 00 +40.4 55.3 +23.0 -0.5 ECU. 3.9 12.83 4675 +2.9 4.2 103 10 00 +22.8 88.5 +24.0 +0.9 400.00 4.3 13.53 4803 +3.3 4.3 105 70 02 +18.3 95.9 +12.0 +1.7 400.00 4.4 12.11 4837 +9.4 4.3 104 100 00 +18.2 92.4 +12.2 +0.8 400.00 4.4 10.96 4866 +15.5 4.4 105 100 00 +18.2 91.5 +12.2 +0.7 400.00 4.4 10.89 4938 +19.2 4.4 105 100 00 +18.2 93.6 +16.3 +0.4 400.00 4.4 11.01 5027 +19.8 4.4 105 100 00 +18.5 91.3 +16.5 +0.2 400.00 4.4 11.06 5089 +20.0 4.4 104 100 00 +18.9 93.7 +16.6 +0.2 385.00 4.4 11.14 5159 +19.4 4.4 104 100 00 +18.9 93.6 +16.7 +0.2 385.00 4.4 11.17 5175 +18.0 4.4 104 90 00 +19.0 93.1 +16.9 +0.2 385.00 4.4 11.20 5208 +18.0 4.4 84 100 00 +18.9 93.5 +17.0 +0.6 385.00 4.4 11.23 5257 +17.6 4.3 35 100 00 +20.9 71.8 +16.9 +0.2 402.00 3.8 11.18 4990 +12.1 1.8 0 00 00 +23.3 5.4 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.7 10.78 4844 +4.9 1.7 0 00 00 +23.4 24.0 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.7 10.62 4675 -3.2 1.8 0 00 00 +23.5 24.0 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.8 10.65 4374 -10.8 1.8 0 00 00 +23.5 24.0 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.8 11.11 4055 -12.8 1.9 0 00 00 +23.5 24.0 ECU. +0.1 ECU. 1.9 12.46 Code:
3687 -1.8 3.3 28 10 00 +31.0 33.5 ECU. +1.4 ECU. 3.3 13.23 3753 -0.2 3.3 28 10 00 +30.8 34.2 +25.0 +1.5 ECU. 3.3 12.37 3805 +1.1 3.3 28 20 00 +31.2 32.9 +24.0 +1.1 ECU. 3.3 12.17 3840 +1.7 3.2 27 10 00 +32.4 33.7 +25.0 +1.2 ECU. 3.3 12.09 3996 +1.7 3.5 32 10 00 +29.2 42.0 +25.0 +1.1 330.00 3.5 12.06 4030 +2.5 3.8 36 20 00 +19.6 57.0 +23.9 +1.2 340.00 3.9 12.06 4095 +5.1 4.0 39 50 00 +16.5 65.2 +18.0 +1.8 347.50 4.0 11.89 4166 +8.4 4.0 51 70 00 +17.1 70.5 +15.0 +1.5 377.50 4.1 11.67 4334 +12.1 4.2 62 80 00 +16.7 77.1 +15.2 +2.0 403.00 4.3 11.65 4462 +15.1 4.2 62 90 00 +17.1 85.7 +15.8 +2.3 403.00 4.3 11.39 4535 +16.8 4.3 62 100 00 +17.3 86.3 +16.0 +2.2 403.00 4.4 11.05 4694 +17.8 4.3 62 100 00 +17.9 90.1 +16.0 +1.7 403.00 4.4 10.87 4782 +18.0 4.3 60 100 00 +18.3 92.0 +16.1 +1.1 400.00 4.4 10.86 4960 +17.8 4.3 60 90 00 +18.4 95.2 +16.3 +0.5 400.00 4.4 10.89 4975 +18.0 4.4 80 100 00 +18.7 94.9 +16.5 +0.2 395.00 4.4 10.90 5216 +17.8 4.4 87 100 00 +18.7 95.3 +16.8 +0.2 388.00 4.4 10.99 5192 +17.8 4.4 88 90 00 +19.1 96.6 +16.9 +0.2 387.00 4.5 11.14 5299 +18.0 4.5 63 100 00 +19.5 ---.- +17.0 +0.5 403.00 4.5 11.17 5464 +16.6 4.1 31 90 00 +23.3 62.2 +17.0 +0.5 327.50 3.6 10.96 5058 +10.8 1.7 0 00 00 +23.3 5.1 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.4 10.46 4649 +3.1 1.1 0 00 00 +23.5 26.3 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.2 12.05 4278 -4.9 1.4 2 00 00 +25.4 6.6 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.5 15.65 4055 -11.2 2.4 21 00 00 +44.5 12.5 ECU. +0.1 ECU. 2.6 14.45 3930 -10.4 3.2 40 10 00 +38.5 33.1 +25.0 +1.2 350.00 3.3 13.56 3926 -6.3 3.5 42 10 00 +28.2 44.2 +25.0 +1.1 355.00 3.6 13.78 4006 -0.6 3.8 43 40 00 +17.0 58.5 +19.8 +1.2 357.50 4.0 12.96 3977 +5.5 4.0 48 60 00 +16.4 68.1 +14.9 +1.8 370.00 4.1 11.89 4100 +10.6 4.0 51 80 00 +17.9 69.3 +14.4 +1.7 377.50 4.1 11.53 4084 +14.1 4.1 68 90 00 +17.8 70.6 +14.4 +1.8 412.00 4.1 11.49 4208 +16.6 4.1 75 100 00 +17.7 72.2 +14.7 +1.8 415.00 4.2 11.56 4257 +18.0 4.2 92 100 00 +17.7 75.2 +14.9 +1.8 405.00 4.2 11.58 4306 +18.6 4.1 87 100 00 +18.1 78.1 +15.2 +1.8 408.00 4.2 11.49 4323 +19.2 4.2 79 100 00 +18.4 79.6 +15.4 +2.0 412.00 4.2 11.43 4409 +19.0 4.2 55 100 00 +18.4 80.0 +15.5 +2.1 387.50 4.3 11.34 4444 +18.8 4.2 43 100 00 +18.7 76.1 +15.7 +2.2 357.50 4.1 11.23 4498 +16.1 3.3 14 00 00 +28.9 18.4 ECU. +0.2 330.00 2.5 11.18 4468 +8.8 1.7 0 00 00 +23.3 12.4 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.7 10.52 4397 +1.3 1.8 0 00 00 +23.5 12.4 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 1.8 10.20 4251 -6.3 1.8 0 00 00 +23.4 12.4 ECU. +0.1 ECU. 1.8 10.96 Last edited by TravisSTi; 03-30-2006 at 06:17 AM. |
03-30-2006, 09:32 AM | #3 |
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the PTFB is because your boost map is crazy looking!
Your CLB values go from 0-500. That means as you approach 500 you are telling your boost control solenoid to "stay shut as along as you can and build the most boost you can" It looks like you are trying to nip-tuck- and enter different boost values all over the place. In fact, these are some of the whackiest values ive ever seen. Some people like ptfb... but if you dont, i suggest trying a boost map that looks like this: Code:
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03-30-2006, 09:40 AM | #4 |
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another thing you may want to do is disconnect your boost solenoid and do a couple of 4th and 5th gear pulls. I'd like to see what boost you make just on wastegate spring pressure. See how you shot up to 20psi at around 5000rpm? You may have some other issues.
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03-30-2006, 06:32 PM | #5 |
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The boost map goes from about 350 to 400. all even rounded numbers I dont know where its getting those odd ones like 327.5 357.5 377. I'll try to smooth it out a bit more and see what I can get. The weird thing is the map I started with tuned by TurboXS for my firends 04 STI (this was his "Safe" map) had much higher boost values, leaner fueling, more timing....I have no clue how it ran on his car.
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03-31-2006, 11:51 AM | #6 | |
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