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07-12-2014, 12:46 AM | #376 |
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^Couldn't have said it better myself. Take my damn money!
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07-12-2014, 12:53 AM | #377 |
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07-14-2014, 05:13 PM | #378 |
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So when can we buy it? ^_^
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Thanks guys! We have an announcement regarding the intake this morning, updates coming soon. Additionally, we added a new vehicle to our shop! We picked up another 2015 WRX, this one is a 6 speed model. For the product development and testing we have planned, this was definitely needed. Check out the twins! |
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07-15-2014, 11:20 AM | #380 |
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"Coming soon"....such a tease guys lol....COME ON! LoL
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07-15-2014, 11:27 AM | #381 |
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What did the manual put down on your dyno?
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07-15-2014, 11:33 AM | #382 |
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Sorry! Check out the information below.
We are performing some additional testing this week. Updates on the way. Thanks to everyone for following along with our progress! We are offering a limited run of these intakes to the members of this forum. Our first few units are expected to arrive next week. Because we only have a very limited production run that cannot service our distribution needs, we have decided to offer the initial production run to our faithful forum followers. Not only will this allow forum members to be one of the first to purchase this product, but we are also offering this at a reduced price. Check out our thread at the link below for more details! http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2648119 |
07-15-2014, 11:55 AM | #383 |
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what are the major benefits of the box? I mean I know it is covering the filter and helping direct air, but any HP diff?
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07-15-2014, 12:10 PM | #384 |
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07-15-2014, 12:20 PM | #385 |
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I just looked at your dyno plot with the a/f ratio...I'm guessing the black line is stock and the intake is orange, how come the stock a/f drops at 4.5 and the a/f with an intake holds constant longer? Also what do you guys believe is a safe range for a/f without being too lean?
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07-15-2014, 03:04 PM | #386 |
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I like how you guys managed to get over 15whp from a "custom catback". That alone makes me extremely skeptical about your claims.
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07-15-2014, 03:16 PM | #387 |
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Ordered!
I'm hoping this lives up to both the power claims, and the bit of not needing a tune.
I kind of hate myself for not being patient and waiting to see results from other members in the forum, so I guess i get to be a guinea pig XD. Anyway, now i can't wait =) |
07-15-2014, 03:22 PM | #388 |
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This setup is gaining power by most likely a combination of factors.
1) it leans out the AFR under WOT by 1.0-1.2. This should be fine because the stock tune is so rich that it is ridiculous. Only time will tell if there was a real reason that subaru set the stock tune to a 10.5 AFR on the DIT motors. 2) by creating a different Airload value with this setup, the ECM is most likely referencing a different part of the stock map that is on the stock tune. This could lead to it reading in a row that has a higher or lower timing value set (since the timing is presumably controlled by a table with the Airload value as X axis and the RPM value as Y axis). So while it doesn't "require a tune" to run it, it is causing the stock ECM to operate off of different values that are on the existing factory tables. Adding a tune on top of this is likely not to provide a huge amount of additional gains. Stage 1 tune = 20-30whp Mishimoto tubes = 20-30whp Stage 1 plus Mishimoto tubes will likely not equal 40-60whp and will most likely result in a total output of 20-30whp anyhow. |
07-15-2014, 03:35 PM | #389 | |
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So i've got a question for you guys (Mishimoto). What makes the stock intake setup suck so much? The ECU obviously has the overhead to safely take advantage of more airflow. Is the stock setup just extremely restrictive? Did you start replacing sections and ultimately identify where the majority of the restriction lies? Such a simple solution for quite a bit of power is great news for us, but other than keeping the power down to a reasonable gap between the WRX and the STi, it just doesn't make much sense. Previous model stock intakes have never really had this issue until much higher power levels. Last edited by mechatricity; 07-15-2014 at 03:41 PM. |
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07-15-2014, 03:57 PM | #390 |
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I seriously doubt that the stock intake is restrictive, especially at OE power levels. The reason why this CAI increases power is as Psykostevo said, in which it acts like a stage 1 tune. Granted, when you're at 350+ whp, then yeah, you're hitting the limits of the stock intake, in which case, you would need an aftermarket intake of some sort for greater flow.
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07-15-2014, 04:31 PM | #391 | |
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07-15-2014, 04:33 PM | #392 |
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My understanding is that any gains realized from an intake are due to it tricking the MAF sensor, which can be done with a tune to a much finer degree. So kind of like psyko said, once tuned it's hard for me to believe as Mishimoto says that this would result in additional gains. Either way, I'm on the list and will be a guinea pig for the rest. Good timing as I plan on getting tuned in the next month.
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07-15-2014, 05:49 PM | #394 |
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Thank you Mishimoto for your write up and taking the time to address the questions we have, As soon as I get my car I will be ordering some parts from you
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07-15-2014, 06:44 PM | #395 |
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I was planing on getting the nameless axleback exhaust. But since I'm not getting a tune, i'm wondering if it would be safe to run in conjunction with the CAI I just ordered from Mishimoto.
Anyone think it would be a problem to run both? Here's the link to the Axleback: http://shop.namelessperformance.com/...uffler-delete/ |
07-15-2014, 06:52 PM | #396 |
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^same as me
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07-15-2014, 07:01 PM | #397 |
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I have a perrin quad tip catback, will these 2 upgrades work together?
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07-15-2014, 07:43 PM | #398 |
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The worst part of this product is the fight between responsibility and enjoyment lol. I might be forced to wait and pay more later.
I don't see them coming here with a load of bull....no one would ever trust them again. 30HP is a BIG claim, why would you set the bar so high if it only makes 5HP? I might have to wait...if so, I will pay more later sadly, but 30HP with a bolt on is INSANITY! Thanks for your work and sharing so much here once again! |
07-15-2014, 08:47 PM | #399 | |
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07-15-2014, 09:52 PM | #400 | |
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