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10-10-2005, 01:20 AM | #51 | |
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10-10-2005, 03:09 AM | #52 | |
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clutch in select neutral clutch out blip throttle clutch in select lower gear clutch out. i am def. rev-matching and def. double clutching the right way. like i said it doesn't take anymore time to do than a simple rev-match. in fact, this is a much better way of rev-matching since when you rev-match without double clutching you're just increasing the engine revs. with my way of downshifting you rev the engine AND the input shaft which means less stress while engaging the next lower gears. which means the synchros don't have to do squat. that is a good thing. |
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10-16-2005, 08:48 PM | #53 |
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^- someone using double clutching and heel toe like they invented it Good one for the n00bs to see john |
12-09-2005, 02:22 PM | #54 |
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I know. New post in old thread. Double clutchers -- Do not forget about the clutch release bearing, which does double duty in DC and does not last forever.
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01-14-2006, 05:38 PM | #55 |
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i think the heel toe section is wrong! well the animated part at least.
blip the throttle while in neutral then put in lower gear takes along. i think doing it that way seems pointless i dont see the point in reving it while neutral . My way of heel toe, let say im in 3rd and i want to go to 2nd for a turn so i brake then i push the clutch in then put in 2nd and blip throttle and let go of clutch. 1. brake, then clutch in 2. move to lower gear 3. blip the throttle with your heel, while holding in the clutch (the foot is still on the brake) 4. then i release clutch and the brake. yadadada then accel out |
01-26-2006, 04:14 PM | #56 | |
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The imput shaft when disconnected from the driveline and engine rotates at about the same speed as the flywheel. So if you want a smooth shift all you need to do is put light pressure on the gear shift untill it 'falls' into gear then lift up the clutch at a quick pace (less than a second) with no jerk or clunk. For example, you're in second gear. For a smooth shift put your foot on the clutch and take the car out of gear. Take the gear lever, don't jam it into the next gate, and put light pressure to get it into 3rd. When the revs match the shifter will seem to almost pull itself into gear. At that time you can lift your foot off the clutch quickly. Much easier than waiting for that point when the accleration of the car has slowed. |
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01-26-2006, 05:47 PM | #57 | |
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While the way you do it is certainly faster on the track, if you have the time during the daily commute to double clutch on the downshift...why not? |
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02-15-2006, 11:06 AM | #58 |
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I just read this post and I must say it is VERY VERY informative. Some information I had been looking for about our transmission I just found . Thanks Unabomber you're the best.
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04-05-2006, 02:12 PM | #59 |
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05-06-2006, 09:03 AM | #60 |
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very very helpful! Thanks!
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05-06-2006, 04:32 PM | #61 |
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what should be a sticky is the neccessity to get a kartboy short shift and bushings. words cant express how much better the car shifts.
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01-18-2007, 11:54 AM | #62 |
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Very good read. I'll use some of this to teach my wife to drive my car. Thanks.
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01-18-2007, 12:12 PM | #63 |
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A very good FAQ
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02-20-2007, 08:36 AM | #64 |
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This answered a lot of questions. Thanks for the thread.
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02-20-2007, 08:53 AM | #65 | |
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another mtd works for me better: Steps 1,2 and 3 are the same as above. Without having to wait (step 4 above), I would quickly release the clutch until just before the 'biting' point. Then I would gradually release the clutch until fully. During the process of releasing the clutch, i would gradually step on the gas. If done correctly, there will be no rear diff klunk no matter slow the car is or how low the engine revs are. This method is very similar to moving from stationary in 1st gear and it works for all gears. my 2 cents |
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02-21-2007, 09:13 PM | #66 |
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awesome advice i'll take it easy on my shifrting now...driving a fwd car will do this to you
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03-28-2007, 08:06 PM | #67 |
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Great thread... very informative. While I'm not new to driving MTs, I just bought my first one. This really helps me understand the idiosyncracies of the Subie trans as opposed to the Audis and VWs that I'm used to driving.
Now I just need to fix my 1st gear Synchros so I don't have to drive it like an old REX. (long story...) |
04-06-2007, 12:50 PM | #68 |
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Thanks! Very helpful. I have some practicing to do.
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06-06-2007, 02:10 AM | #69 |
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i have never heard of the heal/toe thing but i always downshift that was really helpful, but i dont quite understand what double clutching is used for, can anyone elaborate?
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06-06-2007, 07:50 AM | #70 |
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I think for some trannies its better to double clutch to downshift quicker? im not totally sure tho someone help me out.
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07-15-2007, 03:46 AM | #71 |
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Do you have to release the clutch while double clutching? I don't when I do it. Is that bad?
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07-15-2007, 07:59 PM | #72 |
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thankyou for anwsering every question i was afraid to ask
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08-06-2007, 02:29 AM | #73 |
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awsome thread, i read it for an hour. cant wait to hit the road tomorrow!
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10-09-2007, 11:56 PM | #74 |
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+10 beautiful descriptions couldn't put it much better myself i double clutch and heel toe in the every day daily driver setting, that way its second nature not to mention a clutch is cheaper than a tranny
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10-17-2007, 02:14 AM | #75 |
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Wear and Tear
So, for the double clutch move, isn't that going to eventually put alot more wear on the throw-out bearing and maybe even the clutch disc itself? Someone asked above and I didn't see an answer yet...
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