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Old 01-28-2009, 06:55 PM   #1
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Dyno Services and Tuning



Dyno Tuning with Jorge w/ EMS - $225 per hour (AP tunes estimated at 1 to 1.5 hours)
Dyno Tuning with Jorge w/ Open Source - $225 per hour (estimated at 1.5 - 2 hours)
Dyno Baseline - 2 wheel drive, 3 pulls with wideband o2 AFR printout - $80
Dyno Baseline - 4 wheel drive, 3 pulls with wideband o2 AFR printout - $110
Dyno Rental - 2 or 4 wheel, unlimited pulls with wideband o2, priced per hour - $140


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Roll Cage Fabrication - $2999 (6 point, includes chromoly piping and materials)
EWG Flange Welding - $199 (install an EWG flange on your GTspec/etc. header)
Stock Exhaust Manifold Hand Port - $149
Turbo Internal Wastegate and Volute Entry Hand Port - $149
TGV Delete and Housing Hand Port - $149


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Clutch Installation 5spd - $349
Clutch Installation 6spd - $399
5spd Rebuild and/or Gear set Install (Warrantied) - $450
Fuel Pump Install (02-07 WRX/STI) - $189 - Includes Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump
Fuel Pump Install and Housing Modification (08+ WRX/STI , 05+ LGT) - $249 - Includes Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump
30k Service - $361
60k Service - $560
90k Service - $361
Turbo Back Exhaust Install (02-07 WRX/STI) - $115 - Includes Brand New Gaskets
Corner Balance - $300

Oil Change (oil/filter provided by customer) - $10




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Old 01-28-2009, 06:56 PM   #2
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Can you guys do open source tuning for the evo x?
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Can you guys do open source tuning for the evo x?
I believe that only the AP and Ecutek are available for the Evo X thus far. We don't support Ecutek, so the Cobb Accessport would be your only option currently.

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whats included in the 60k service?
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whats included in the 60k service?
We use Subaru's list for 30/60/90k service. The list can be found HERE but I believe the website is down currently.

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I may be wrong, but as part of the service you offer for the '08 Sti, you take in the complete fuel pump assembly (including the plastic bucket), you modify the bucket and adapt a Walbro to it, then send that back to the '08 Sti owners.
If this is correct, you're left sometimes with '08 Sti "bare" fuel pumps. Would you like to sell one of those?
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I may be wrong, but as part of the service you offer for the '08 Sti, you take in the complete fuel pump assembly (including the plastic bucket), you modify the bucket and adapt a Walbro to it, then send that back to the '08 Sti owners.
If this is correct, you're left sometimes with '08 Sti "bare" fuel pumps. Would you like to sell one of those?
What are you looking to use it for? It would only be a drop in fuel pump for an 08+ WRX or 05+ LGT. Even then it's only a modest increase in LPH flow.

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I'm looking to use it in my 2002 WRX.
I'm not looking to start a big conversation about Walbro, about the formulas used to size up a pump, etc.
These treads exist already on the forum.
For my application, the 175 Liter/hour of the '08 Sti fuel pump sound like a good choice.
If I have to adapt a bracket for the pump, then I'll do that.

Unless you're saying that this pump does not fit, cannot be made to physically fit.
In this case, please let me know, would be info useful for the community.

If you have an '08 Sti fuel pump, "leftover" from a pump assembly swap, please PM with a price.
I'm not interested in the LGT pump.
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I do not believe that you will be able to get the 08 STI / LGT style pump to fit in a 02-07. It will be too short to fit in the bracket.

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How much for a pnp of a td04 turbo?? also what is included in your 90k mile service and what do you charge for changing out the timing belt?

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ty, whats included in the 90k service?
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30k Service - $361
60k Service - $560
90k Service - $361

are these service prices still good and can the price for the 30k service be applied to an 04 forester 2.5x?
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We use Subaru's list for 30/60/90k service. The list can be found HERE but I believe the website is down currently.

-Ty

the website is down and i was interested as well, so i searched and came up with this:

15/45/75/105k Mile Service:
- Replace: Engine Oil & Filter Replacement
- Perform: Rotate Tires
- Inspect: Drive Belts
- Inspect: Brake pads/rotors
- Inspect: Front/rear axle boots, CV joints, axle shafts
- Inspect: Parking brake operation
- Inspect: Clutch system operation
- Inspect: Steering and suspension

30k Mile Service:
- Replace: Engine oil/filter
- Perform: Rotate Tires
- Replace: Spark Plugs
- Replace: Brake Fluid
- Replace: Engine coolant
- Replace: Fuel filter
- Replace: Air Filter
- Inspect: Drive Belts
- Inspect: Brake pads/rotors
- Inspect: Front/rear axle boots, CV joints, axle shafts
- Inspect: Parking brake operation
- Inspect: Clutch system operation
- Inspect: Steering and suspension

60/120k Mile Service:
- Replace: Engine oil/filter
- Perform: Rotate Tires
- Replace: Spark Plugs
- Replace: Brake Fluid
- Replace: Engine coolant
- Replace: Fuel filter
- Replace: Air Filter/ recharge K/N filters
- Replace: Tranmission/differential gear oil *
- Inspect: Drive Belts
- Inspect: Brake pads/rotors
- Inspect: Front/rear axle boots, CV joints, axle shafts
- Inspect: Parking brake operation
- Inspect: Clutch system operation
- Inspect: Steering and suspension


90/180k Mile Service:
- Replace: Engine oil/filter
- Perform: Rotate Tires
- Replace: Spark Plugs
- Replace: Brake Fluid
- Replace: Engine coolant
- Replace: Fuel filter
- Replace: Drive Belts
- Replace: Timing Belt *
- Replace: Water Pump *
- Replace: Air Filter
- Inspect: Brake pads/rotors
- Inspect: Front/rear axle boots, CV joints, axle shafts
- Inspect: Parking brake operation
- Inspect: Clutch system operation
- Inspect: Steering and suspension

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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1618286

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What kind of fluids do you use and what spark plugs & timing belt do you use?

90/180k Mile Service:
- Replace: Engine oil/filter
- Perform: Rotate Tires
- Replace: Spark Plugs
- Replace: Brake Fluid
- Replace: Engine coolant
- Replace: Fuel filter
- Replace: Drive Belts
- Replace: Timing Belt *
- Replace: Water Pump *
- Replace: Air Filter
- Inspect: Brake pads/rotors
- Inspect: Front/rear axle boots, CV joints, axle shafts
- Inspect: Parking brake operation
- Inspect: Clutch system operation
- Inspect: Steering and suspension

I am very interested in getting this done at the price you have listed above and am also curious as to how much a PNP service for a TD04 costs.

Thanks,
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What kind of fluids do you use and what spark plugs & timing belt do you use?

90/180k Mile Service:
- Replace: Engine oil/filter
- Perform: Rotate Tires
- Replace: Spark Plugs
- Replace: Brake Fluid
- Replace: Engine coolant
- Replace: Fuel filter
- Replace: Drive Belts
- Replace: Timing Belt *
- Replace: Water Pump *
- Replace: Air Filter
- Inspect: Brake pads/rotors
- Inspect: Front/rear axle boots, CV joints, axle shafts
- Inspect: Parking brake operation
- Inspect: Clutch system operation
- Inspect: Steering and suspension

I am very interested in getting this done at the price you have listed above and am also curious as to how much a PNP service for a TD04 costs.

Thanks,
Dave
I'm not sure where this list came from, but the Subaru schedule recommends spark plugs on a turbo charged application to be changed at the 60k maintenance, and timing belt change at 105k maintenance.

I'm still working on getting that list for everyone, I'll have it shortly!

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Hey guys! I need a re-tune pretty bad for my 05 WRX. I am running pig rich and would be lucky to get 14-15 mpg right now. I backfire all the time! (seriously I backfire at like 3500 rpm) How do I set up an appointment with jorge? I have a Cobb AP v1. My original tune was done by Harman motive out of LA. Please let me know and when the best time to do this would be. Thank you.
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Can you provide a better pic of the P&L Hi flow intake for an '07 STI?

I'm trying to figure out how that intake is better than an Injen/AEM/APS which is mounted in the fender. Give me a decent response so I can come get the P&L one for cheaper!

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I'm not sure where this list came from, but the Subaru schedule recommends spark plugs on a turbo charged application to be changed at the 60k maintenance, and timing belt change at 105k maintenance.

I'm still working on getting that list for everyone, I'll have it shortly!

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Any news on this???
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Just to give you guys some information.
Last night I've installed the '08 Sti fuel pump in my 2002 WRX.
It fits.
The differences are as follows:
The metalic length of the pump is shorter for the 08 Sti. It makes no difference.
The overall length is the same
The diameter is the same
The "sock" port is of a 0.2 mm smaller on the '08, or perhaps not slightly conical like on the 02. So the sock fits over its port, but I chose to make it tight over the port with some teflon tape.
The pump is held in place at the top by a rubber hose on the '02
The rubber hose fits, is of sufficient length
The metal clip that retains the sock in place fits
The rubber saddle at the bottom of the pump bracket fits.

Both pumps seem to have an "auxiliary intake" at the bottom and the saddle had a matching channel cut into its side.
The 08 has the channel on the opposite side, so you should cut a channel into the saddle, using a knife.
That's it, it works.

Since Walbro pumps come with their own rubber saddle, you guys can make available the '08 STI rubber saddle with the pumps, so that no cutting will be necessary.
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how much, parts and labor, would it cost for the general 120K maintenance. Which ever one it is that includes timing belt, water pump, idler pulleys, etc ?
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