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11-28-2012, 11:16 PM | #1 |
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2013 wrx oil change advice.
I'm contemplating a dealer oil change?
Or shell rotella t6 oil change with oem blue filter with crush washer done by myself. Scared if a ringland goes for some reason they would say "you used the wrong oil" but I know how much better the t6 is for viscosity, and break down. I have 3100 miles on my 13 wrx.
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11-28-2012, 11:20 PM | #2 |
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Isn't your first oil change free? See if your dealer is running that offer. A lot of them do that .
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11-28-2012, 11:25 PM | #3 |
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Lol apperently not I was there today and asked the cost and 72$ for a synthetic penzoil oil change made me say k thx bye, and bought 3 oem filters just nervous if I do my oil changes myself like I did on my 08 the ringlands would go? I'm OCD with my car haha but rotella t6 is the better cheaper oil. Plus like everyone says the problem affects hardly anyone just we read about the failures because they are what's posted not "yay 80k on my 2011 wrx pistons are going strong" ha
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11-28-2012, 11:28 PM | #4 |
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I'm leaning for the rotella though, seems safer, except no safety net to fall back on if motor failed, but I am going stage 1 soon.. It's hopeless, maybe I just shouldn't drive a car if I'm gonna worry so much, but can't resist to make my car my own lol.
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11-28-2012, 11:44 PM | #5 | |
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Relax. I remember being paranoid like you when I first got the car. If you drive it in a reasonable manner and keep up with maintenance it will be fine. If you're going to do your own oil changes use the RT6. Stage 2 and almost 50,000 miles later and my UOAs look like this: Which is to say, really good. |
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11-29-2012, 12:08 AM | #6 |
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^awesome lab results kingme, thanks for sharing. My old mustang I would change the oil every 5k miles. That was only using regular too.
My first few changes in the Subie have been at 3k miles. I have now bumped it up to every 5k especially since this is my daily and it racks up miles. Interesting they say you could run it up to 7k. I know the manual says you can, just in the back of my mind it seems like it is pushing it. The old 3k oil change is back in the big block muscle car dinosaur days. Same myth as cars start to fall apart at 100k miles. New vehicles, with better manufacturing procedures and tighter tolerances last much longer. These myths are just perpetuated so Valvoline and JiffyLubes stay in business. |
11-29-2012, 12:20 AM | #7 |
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IMO, I would never, ever let a dealer do any sort of work on your car (yes, even an oil change) unless you're next to one of the rare ones that don't catastrophically mess up people's cars.
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11-29-2012, 12:33 AM | #8 |
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No reason why you shouldn't do the oil changes yourself (if you don't know what you're doing, get a local Subaru buddy to show you the first time). Just keep everything documented, and have receipts for the oil and genuine filters in case you need warranty work and have to demonstrate that you followed a correct oil maintenance schedule.
And if you're really OCD about it, send a sample off to Blackstone every oil change, that's the most scientific way of knowing if your engine is "doing fine" or not. Edit: Also, if you're going to be doing your oil changes, you might want to invest in a Fumoto valve (search on Google or NASIOC for more details). |
11-29-2012, 02:00 AM | #9 |
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Use a quality 5w30 to stay in warranty and do the changes yourself. If something does go awry it's just one less thing they can point at. There are alternatives to the sacred T6.
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11-29-2012, 02:14 AM | #10 |
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I used RT6 at 1k and am about to again for the 3k. However did you say you bought the blue filters? Mine came with the black one and my dealer offers the black ones as well as the blue ones...don't know the difference.
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11-29-2012, 06:00 AM | #11 | |
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T6 is sacred because it is consistently showing very good UOA results. It holds viscosity well and holds up for a long period of time. I have 25K on my STI now and I am seeing minimal consumption of oil in the car. I typically lose 1/4 to 1/2 of a quart every 7500 which is excellent. My advice, if you know something that works well, why go with something else? Especially given the price of T6. I've used German Castrol and even Amsoil in the past. I paid premium for Amsoil but did not really see the benefits over T6. It's an easy decision at that point. |
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11-29-2012, 07:45 AM | #12 |
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Yes the oem blue filters, I don't drive the car hard just like to accelerate on on ramps, and what not, I drive 84 miles a day round trip all highway. But I guess I gotta stop worrying about the unknown, cross that bridge if I ever get to it.
My wife says "your worried about a brand new cars engine going kaboom?" Haha I say ya cause I've read about ringlands failure on the forums lolol. |
11-29-2012, 07:53 AM | #13 |
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I tried to switch to Rotella but when I took the oil to my dealership to have them do my oil change they went on to tell me that my warranty would be out the door if they put it in. I talked to 2 different people there that told me they have to put in subaru oil. Idk why this is, but I don't see why they would lie to me.
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11-29-2012, 08:57 AM | #14 |
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To get that 71$ for a oil change is why they lied lol, you can change it yourself, but need proof of receipts and what not, I'm gonna go with rotella screw the dealership and oil changes ha.
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11-29-2012, 08:57 AM | #15 |
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You should be changing your oil every at least every 3750 miles...using a Subaru oil filter.
I change my own oil every 3000 miles using a Subaru oil filter, and on a daily driver, at that interval you can even use the dreaded 5w30 Mobil 1 with no worries...as long as you keep all your purchase receipts. You are NOT required to use only Subaru oil, just the recommended viscosity oil. |
11-29-2012, 10:54 AM | #16 | |
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I will use the T6 after my warranty period is up, for now I am running motul Eco energy 5w30. I just don't want a hassle if they say something about not using the correct oil weight listed in my manual if I have a serious problem. |
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11-29-2012, 10:59 AM | #17 |
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11-29-2012, 10:59 AM | #18 |
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Not to jump on the T6 bandwagon, but I tried it out for myself after the previous owner used dino oil up to 94k. This is when I switched to synthetic. So far so good, minimal oil consumption, but I do check it a lot just to be sure. *knock on wood*
As long as the manual states 5w40 is ok, just save the receipts. I've researched the crap out of oil and T6 seems to be very good. |
11-29-2012, 12:02 PM | #19 |
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...I'm interested in the whole 3750/7500 debate, because the service booklet I just got from Subaru of New England says "2013 wrx service intervals" (outlining what needs to be done at what mileage in sort of coupon form), and it uses the 7500 mileage spacing...
Am I the only one who got this neat little thing? |
11-29-2012, 12:06 PM | #20 |
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What does the owners manual of the car say?
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11-29-2012, 12:08 PM | #21 |
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So, I take it that if you experience a covered issue during your warranty period, you're going to just pay out of pocket and fix it yourself?
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11-29-2012, 12:15 PM | #22 | |
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If you've got a motor issue in a 2012+ WRX and you show them reciepts for 5W-40 which is not spec (especially Rotella T6 which is made for diesels), you risk warranty work denial. If you're dead set on using 5W-40 in your 2012 WRX+, there are ways of doing it without SOA really knowing. I'll leave that up to you to figure out. |
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11-29-2012, 12:16 PM | #23 | ||
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Incorrect, older turbo cars where changing oil at the lower interval. But now that almost everything is synthetic they have switched to the 7500 miles oil change. References: 2013 Subaru Impreza WRX/STI Owners manual Dealerships mouth Quote:
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11-29-2012, 12:53 PM | #24 |
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Buy oil for my wife jeep and show them the recepits for that? Haha
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11-29-2012, 12:55 PM | #25 | ||
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