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03-22-2013, 09:30 AM | #2726 | ||
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Rules are Rules, you must abide by them blah blah. I understand. I am not going to break any rules and I am not trying to whine about anything. Lets have an intellectual discussion on why or why not the rule could be or should be changed. Replacing the unit with a better one will still retain the emissions functionality. I am having a hard time seeing how you can extrapolate this issue into a modification which replaces the PCV valve that creates an overwhelming advantage. Does anyone have any ideas how you could replace the PCV and gain a huge advantage? Like stated before, you are not even allowed to run higher boost levels anyway. Simply put, a PCV valve replacement should easily be allowable. If you can upgrade exhaust pieces for increased flow and better power in this class, then doing a mod that has no effect on emissions, no significant effect on power, no effect on chassis stability... it should be a no-brainier. From Crawford themselves: "This not only keeps the vehicle within specs of smog but keeps the oil from coating the tops of the pistons. We all know what that does to any tune you have; it causes detonation, a very bad thing for turbo engines."
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03-22-2013, 09:44 AM | #2727 | |
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03-22-2013, 10:17 AM | #2728 | |
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03-22-2013, 10:20 AM | #2729 |
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You're right that is a good response and a good argument against changing the rules.
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03-22-2013, 04:13 PM | #2730 | |
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Listen to what Daniel said: put on your AOS and go and run in your local events in STU (check with the locals first, if you must) and have fun. I used to be very concerned with staying within the rules, and I still am. I even went to the measure of making several changes to my last car (wrx) to make it legal for STX. I changed downpipes, went back to the stock bcs, and got it retuned at stock boost. Would anyone have known (before I made the changes) that I was illegal for STX? Nope. Would anyone care at the local events? Nope (because I wasn't beating anyone!). My car was almost always classed incorrectly the first couple years that I raced casually (STU, DSP, etc) because I asked others what class I should be in and they had no clue. Once I finally made the changes and got my car in STX, one of the local subaru guys who competes nationally came over and we were talking about my car - he noticed aftermarket intercooler hoses that technically bumped me into street prepared. Did he still care? Nope!..I also wasn't beating him yet. So, long story short, get your car prepared properly for your class, and if there is a mod that you really want to add, ask others and see if they care. As long as its a local event, and you are not beating the piss out of everyone because of that mod, no one will care! When you start winning, and start going to nationals, that's when every mod, every trim piece, nut, bolt, etc. matter. Until then, get some seat time and have fun So anyway, long story short, let's keep this thread about setups and not rules complaints. Sure, we can talk about ways to add an AOS legally. But perhaps the main NASIOC autox or SCCA forum would be a better place to have rules discussions. Ok, I digress...party on |
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03-22-2013, 07:11 PM | #2731 | |
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Crawford may advertise it as keeping in spec with smog, but the reality is it's not 100% the same. You are correct in that it will not create an advantage, however that's not the point. If you change the rule, there are other cars within the class that may be able to take advantage, etc. It needs to be looked at from all angles, and the point of a class is to prep your car to that specific ruleset. If you're just running locally, like others said, just go out and enjoy your car. I'm all for reliability mods and would agree that it should hopefully one day be legal. However I'm an ASP guy who just butted my head in here when I saw the words "Crawford AOS". Luckily I don't have to worry about that restriction in in *SP. |
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03-22-2013, 07:23 PM | #2732 |
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This makes me a sad panda. You are right i should further understand the entire pcv system before i take Crawford's word on it. I noobed out on that one. But I'm not giving up on my hopes yet ;-)
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03-22-2013, 09:05 PM | #2733 |
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No worries. At least you're taking the time to research things before hand. A lot of people don't bother doing that, so consider yourself one step ahead.
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03-22-2013, 10:37 PM | #2734 | |
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03-25-2013, 08:49 AM | #2735 |
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You've caught my interest - details/pics?
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03-25-2013, 11:48 AM | #2736 |
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Fyi... Piqued
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03-25-2013, 12:02 PM | #2737 |
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03-26-2013, 01:20 PM | #2738 |
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What pressures are you guys using with Z1 Star Specs? My first runs in the car will be at an Evo school this weekend, and I'd like to be close so I can focus on all the other things I have forgotten during the past 5 years of not autocrossing.
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03-26-2013, 01:32 PM | #2739 |
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39/37 was Austin and I's magic setup the majority of last year.
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03-26-2013, 01:47 PM | #2740 |
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Gracias!
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03-26-2013, 02:04 PM | #2741 |
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03-26-2013, 02:13 PM | #2742 |
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Unexpected from an Evo driver
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03-26-2013, 05:37 PM | #2743 | |
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03-26-2013, 05:45 PM | #2744 |
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03-26-2013, 06:49 PM | #2745 |
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03-26-2013, 07:27 PM | #2746 |
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03-31-2013, 12:45 AM | #2747 |
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What PSI do people with the stock Dunlop SP Sport 01 run?
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04-01-2013, 12:12 AM | #2748 |
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Finally got some seat time in the car this weekend. Did an Evo school Saturday, and realized that after 4 years I still had the fundamentals down, but am still learning the differences in braking and lateral grip with street tires and AWD vs the DSP Civic on Hoosier that I ran as my last autocross car. Ran a fun event today, and couldn't get all the pieces put together the way I wanted, but working those rusty bits off will happen. Still ended up 12th in both raw and pax, which I am okay with for my first event after a 5 year hiatus from the sport in a completely different car.
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04-01-2013, 09:45 AM | #2749 |
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04-01-2013, 12:10 PM | #2750 | |
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I have a 2011 WRX, OEM tires, stock dampers, and stock sway bars, with zero toe on all 4 corners, -2* negative camber up front and stock camber in the rear. From tire temperature data with an infrared pyrometer, I found these pressures are the best for the tires: 43psi front, 41psi rear My front tire temps have the middle temp half-way between inside and outside. My rear tire temps are even across the tire. Have fun! Scott |
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