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11-10-2012, 11:40 PM | #801 | |
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11-10-2012, 11:54 PM | #802 |
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Manual mode on an automatic is as close to a manual transmission as I'll ever get. I wouldn't feel any more engaged with the experience if I were managing the clutch and shifter. Encountering traffic in an automatic is less of a chore as well.
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11-11-2012, 01:14 AM | #803 |
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As much as I hate to say this... I wish I had the DCT in my 135. I love shifting, but it can be a chore during the commute. Problem is, as soon as I didn't have the 6MT, I'll want it back like nothing else. A CUV family truckster like the Forester? Oh yeah, we'll be getting the CVT and loving it. I have no desire to shift an SUV / CUV. None at all.
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11-11-2012, 07:35 AM | #804 |
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Given the fact that most of the people who prefer manuals are aging and the younger generations don't care to drive or don't care for manuals, I completely agree with you.
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11-11-2012, 07:41 AM | #805 | |
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11-11-2012, 08:14 AM | #806 | |
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Aren't we all aging? I'm in my 20's drive a manual, have driven a manual in every car I have every owned and will continue to drive a manual in every car I own into the future. Period. Manual is just better for me. |
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11-11-2012, 08:31 AM | #807 | |
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As someone else has already said, people who prefer manuals are literally a dying breed. Subaru understands that. It is clearly shown in their mainstream products. The previous and current generations of Outbacks and Foresters prove that to a point as you go higher in trim levels. |
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11-11-2012, 09:00 AM | #808 | |
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And yet Subaru still offers manual cars. Wake me up when the stop offering manuals completely. |
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11-11-2012, 09:16 AM | #809 | |
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Toyota still offers manuals on the base trim on their mainstream models as does Ford. There's no need to wake up those who are stubborn. Reality checks come in all shapes, sizes, and gear ratios. |
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11-11-2012, 09:20 AM | #810 |
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I've always preferred manuals to older slush-box automatics and have purchased nothing but manual equipped cars for well over 30 years, but the potential of CVTs have me excited. I doubt we will see all the potential of CVTs at first, but I suspect that the advancements will come rather quickly.
How would you feel if you could have a car without shifter or paddles, but with 3 pedals, one for brake, one for acceleration as we now know it (basically RPMs), and a third pedal where one used to find the clutch with linear progressive (without set ratios, but rather continuous) torque control that could be activated at the drivers whim, after which the CVT would automatically resume auto mode? This would appear to me to offer the driver greater control with less inertia and less disconnect than any manual. |
11-11-2012, 09:23 AM | #811 | ||
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11-11-2012, 09:58 AM | #812 |
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So then why not bring back roll down windows and not opt for the power lock doors. Lol. Stubborn people will never change or learn. Cvt is the future, manual is an option for those who can't afford the exta $$$
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11-11-2012, 10:09 AM | #813 |
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CAFE likes to laugh in the face of manual transmission enthusiasts I guess.
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11-11-2012, 10:28 AM | #814 |
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[quote=Calamity Jesus;38468976]Except for the little part where the 2012 Impreza is still faster with a manual than with the CVT.
That might be due to the CVT being programed with an emphasis on fuel economy rather than performance. There might be driver controlled emphasis control available in the future. |
11-11-2012, 10:36 AM | #815 | |
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http://subarublog.wordpress.com/2012...carousel-14245 ;D They have SI drive over there. I'm wondering if the USDM Subaru Forester will get SI drive too. |
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11-11-2012, 10:59 AM | #817 | |
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11-11-2012, 11:12 AM | #818 |
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Damn, I had no idea you WENT to the domestic markets that has the 2014 Subaru Forester with the CVT. You must have had a blast driving around in them with the CVT IN THE 2014 Subaru Forester and NOT in the current lineup in the USDM.
Otherwise you really have no room to talk about the CVT in the USDM 2014 Subaru Forester until it gets here. |
11-11-2012, 11:33 AM | #819 | |
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Its like you read my mind, I was so thinking about this....a compromise for sure, b/c as of right now its either one way other the other: Full CVT or Full Manual. The unfortunate truth is auto companies don't have any incentive for creating something like this, they'd rather stick to what is most cost effective and can be readily sourced. |
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11-11-2012, 11:40 AM | #820 | |
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I'm totally against automatics of any kind when its applied to a sports car but lets be real, if you're buying a CUV or SUV....who gives a crap. |
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11-11-2012, 11:58 AM | #821 |
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11-11-2012, 12:19 PM | #822 |
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11-11-2012, 12:24 PM | #823 |
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It looks like it allows the opposite wheels (say FL and RR) to gain traction and it is also hill decent control. Look at the picture in the brochure below.
Doesn't anyone read japanese!? |
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