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Old 10-04-2012, 02:53 PM   #1
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Have a Nice Day? Not Your typical Oil burning

So, to begin Id like to say I have SEARCHED and SEARCHED these forums and other forums for information regarding my problem with no luck. I know WRX/STis usually burn 1 quart of oil per 3000 miles, but this was not my case. Mine is burning or losing? 1 quart every 150-200 miles.

I have an 04 STi completely stock. with 97k miles on the body 89k on the engine. I bought it with 95k miles. A couple days after I bought it I went to have the oil changed and it was filled up with 4.8 quarts of mobil 1 synthetic 5w 30. A couple days later the car was running rough and I tried to figure out what it could be, as my last ditch effort I checked the oil level. Not a drop on the dipstick. There hadnt been any oil burning smell, no drops of oil underneath the car, nothing. I was pissed off thinking that the shop did something wrong and took it back to them the next morning. They were just as perplexed as I was, they used a new OEM drain plug, the oil filter was fine and correctly installed and they couldn't figure out my problem, they thought that maybe oil had drained out while I had driven it and that the drain plug had been defective. so they filled my car back up with oil and put a new drain plug in and sent me on my way. I checked the oil every morning and every morning it was about 1/4 of a quart lower than the previous day. I just kept adding oil and adding oil to keep it full every day until I could get it in a shop that Specializes in Subarus. I got it into them, and they thought it was the Pcv valve, and that I should be running a higher viscosity of oil.they replaced the pcv valve and switched me over to castrol gtx 10w 40 conventional, but I still have the same problem.

There is a little bit of smoke coming out the exhaust in the mornings now as I am stage 2 with a catless TBE, but it doesn't smell like oil, just like a catless exhaust. When I open the hood after driving for a while there is oil on top of the snorkus? I think its called, and a couple drops on top of the intake piping. I have no clue how oil would get on top of those with the hood of the car shut? Again, I have no idea whats going on and any help would be appreciated!
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:50 PM   #2
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That much oil loss is not a pcv, oil viscosity, or brand problem. What do you mean they used an OEM drain plug? What happened to the original one? Where did you by the car from? And don't run conventional GTX oil for more than 3k miles.

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Old 10-04-2012, 06:41 PM   #3
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If you have oil coming out on top of your engine you've likely got a breather or PCV line that has come loose or split. The top of the engine should not be oily, ever. Post some pics of the suspect areas and we may be able to help track it down.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:57 PM   #4
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its blowed up i think
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:16 PM   #5
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I know WRX/STis usually burn 1 quart of oil per 3000 miles
My 02 wrx does not burn any oil in between oil changes.

If your turbo was starved of oil, you could have more problems.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:18 PM   #6
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@ bluesubie I bought the car from a private seller, the shop that did the oil change told me you have to change out the oil drain plug with every oil change? and yeah I think once my issues are all sorted out Ima switch back to synthetic and go with rotella, heard theyre the best
@ KillerBMotorsport Ill get pics up tommorow of the areas of oil
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:19 PM   #7
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@ Uncle Scotty its not blown it runs great and pulls hard, just loses alot of oil
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:26 AM   #8
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I think you probably misunderstood the shop. They probably said that the Crush Washer that goes on the drain plug needs to be changed every time.

That said, many people reuse them over and over... I do sometimes, or if I happen to have some new washers lying around, i'll change it.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:32 AM   #9
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You're probably right, i know it seems like a stupid mistake but I'm new at all this anyways.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:45 AM   #10
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:31 PM   #11
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Hard to say where that oil is coming from... It could be unrelated to the rest of your oil loss, the power steering pump is right under that, does it seem oily? (the o-ring is known to leak but not sure that it would spray up like that)

BTW - the snorkus is actually the intake silencer which is a large thing hidden inside the fender. The previous owner may or may not have already deleted it. (search snorkus delete to see pics and how to access/remove through the fenderwell)
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:45 PM   #12
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Oh ok, no the snorkus is still intact. What would you call the thing that the oil is on? not the shroud covering the pulleys but the other thing. And yeah the power steering pump is oily, and the part of the block thats underneath the pump is oily. But if all my oil was leaking from there wouldnt there be alot of smoke coming from under the hood when driving?
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:54 PM   #13
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Also, I dont think that was oil I think its power steering fluid thats leaking in that spot cause its a dirty red colored liquid
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:24 PM   #14
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Oh ok, no the snorkus is still intact. What would you call the thing that the oil is on? not the shroud covering the pulleys but the other thing. And yeah the power steering pump is oily, and the part of the block thats underneath the pump is oily. But if all my oil was leaking from there wouldnt there be alot of smoke coming from under the hood when driving?
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Also, I dont think that was oil I think its power steering fluid thats leaking in that spot cause its a dirty red colored liquid
Yep, couldn't really tell from the pic. The red fluid in the power steering system is actually Automatic Transmission Fluid (as opposed to PS fluid)
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:51 AM   #15
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Update on the situation: Oil was again a quart low this morning, filled it up, went to start my car, noticed white smoke coming out of the exhaust, about 30 seconds later oily condensation started spewing out along with the smoke. Now i'm thinking something is wrong with the turbo, is it on its way out? any suggestions of what to look for?
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:37 PM   #16
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Oil was again a quart low this morning.........WHITE SMOKE coming out of the exhaust
So, you're burning oil and coolant?

Bad head gaskets?

I worked with someone who had completely blown HG's. The car ran fine, but he was putting in over a quart of oil every week.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:01 AM   #17
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Maybe so, I got the day off work Monday, ill take it into my mechanic then and see what we can find out
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:32 AM   #18
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With the white smoke, how is the coolant looking? Is it overflowing? Are your coolant temps fluctuating when you cruise?
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:40 AM   #19
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Coolants looking fine, temps are fine and no overflowing
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:22 AM   #20
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Have you checked your rocker panel gaskets? . I thought i had a leak coming from my turbo but it was just pooled up oil in a heatshield on the passenger side, had similar effects you are having.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:24 AM   #21
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Lol just realized this is Old, any word on what it was
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:33 AM   #22
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Still no clue, I just let my car warm up all the way and I don't burn a drop. But if I drive while my cars still cold it goes through oil like none other. I'm broke as of now, so I just let my car warm up until I have more money to look into it.
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