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02-19-2011, 05:26 PM | #1 | ||
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FYI: ASWC installed with full OEM function of stereo controls
In several past threads, I had inquired as to whether the Metra ASWC can be re-programmed to maintain the full OEM functionality of the SWCs. Past reports were indicating that not all of the buttons would function as OEM. All of the buttons would still function, but they might not follow the OEM functions in all modes. For me, this change in SWC function was a reasin to consider NOT upgrading the stereo to aftermarket (though eventually, the crappy sound pushed me over the edge). I know that a lot of other people have posted about a similar apprehension, so I wanted to post up about my successful install with full OEM SWC function using the ASWC and the Clarion CX609. BE AWARE: OTHER STEREOS MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME FUNCTION!!!
Old discussion threads: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2108660 http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2113615 Here is a Cliff's Notes of the threads/issue: Quote:
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Fast forward to today when I installed my Clarion CX609 and the ASWC... There was a really GOOD surprise: The ASWC works 99% like it did with the stock stereo. The even better part: The 1% difference is for the better! That is right- the ASWC controls the stereo presets in the same manner as it did with the stock stereo, and unlike what was reported with some other brands, the ^V arrows control file skip when in USB mode- not folder jump, which is what it does with some other brands of stereos. I went back and checked a CD and the same thing applise- full OEM SWC functionality! I have not checked it on iPod (my iPod is a Shuffle), but on the CD, Tuner, and USB, it does exactly what I wanted it to do,which is to follow OEM function. And the bonus: While the stock stereo cannot be turned on from the SWCs, wih the ASWC, the Clarion CX609 can be turned on or off from the SWCs using the "Mode" button! As for the sound, even with absolutely no fiddling with the tone controls, the radio sound is so much better then the OEM sound that it is not even fair to compare the 2. Radio reception seems to be the same, and USB sound is just about equal. It is actually better than it was with the stock stereo, but part of that is because the tone settings on the stocker were set up to make the tuner suck less, which made the CD/USB function sound too bass-y AND too bright. WIth the flat EQ of the CX609, I don't have that over-compensated sound curve to deal with- different functions sound the same. So the take-home message is that while not all aftermarket stereos will work this way, the (now discontinued) Clarion CX609 DOES maintain the full factory SWC audio functions when used with the ASWC. I have not tried the BT functions (though I did add the extra ASWC wires to the adapter harness, as recommended by SVXdc), so I will report back on that once I add the BT mic.
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02-19-2011, 07:10 PM | #2 |
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Did you following the install instructions provide with the ASWC? Reason i am asking is i am having problems with mine and i followed SVXdc instruction and it isn't working for me, so i just want to get my ducks in order when i trouble shoot it tomorrow.
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02-20-2011, 07:30 AM | #3 |
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I can't get my BB 9700 to post to NASIOC, so I had to log in from my laptop to reply...sorry for the delay.
Anyway, I followed a weird combination of instructions, but the way SVXdc explained it to me, it made perfect sense. I used his wiring instructions, as they came when I ordered the wires from him. I did NOT follow his online guide for the wiring combo!!! The directions that came with the BT wires that I bought from him explained it perfectly. As far as the actual programming instructions, I actually did a reset on the unit prior to install and it worked perfectly when I fired it up. I had the wiring all in-place, connected the HU to the harness, powered up the car, and then connected the ASWC to its wiring plug. As soon as the LEDs stopped blinking, the unit functioned properly. If I can find the electronic version of that David sent to me, I will post it here. |
02-20-2011, 07:32 AM | #4 | |
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Okay, I found it. It was in an email. I hope that David won't mind me re-posting it here. If so, David, let me know and I will redact it.
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02-20-2011, 10:04 AM | #5 |
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I've had the AWSC since March of 2010. I've never had a problem with it except for the controls going hay wire once in a while. Like the ^ would be lowering the volume. Other than that I have had no problems and have been enjoying it for a while.
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02-21-2011, 02:04 AM | #6 |
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I got the same info from David. Now I need to figure out what I did wrong lol
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02-21-2011, 10:09 AM | #7 |
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02-21-2011, 02:03 PM | #8 |
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When I first power it on, it looks like its programming. I thought the light should stay on after it finish, but it doesn't and the swc doesnt work. I am pretty sure I did something wrong and it be a simple fix once I find the error. I am thinking its a loose connection somewhere.
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02-21-2011, 02:46 PM | #9 |
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Verify that the ASWC's 3.5mm plug is plugged securely into the HU's steering wheel remote control jack. Also try unplugging and plugging it a few times (to make sure the HU's contacts aren't dirty).
Check the ASWC's LED feedback codes:
Look up the feedback codes in the ASWC's manual. The first group tells you which SWC input wires the ASWC thinks are connected. The second group is what HU brand it thinks is connected. If either of those is wrong, that should help point you where to look for problems. Look closely at which wires you connected (you really need bright light). It is easy to mis-read or overlook a stripe, or to get wires mixed up (for example, using Orange/Green instead of Green/Orange). |
02-21-2011, 03:04 PM | #10 |
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sounds like you may not have soldered your connections like they advise, using t-taps or something?
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02-22-2011, 03:13 PM | #11 | |
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03-06-2011, 04:03 PM | #12 |
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finally got so time today to work on the ASWC problem. I recheck and made sure all the connect are secure. When the ASWC starts to program, the first series of blinks only shows 5th led to stay on for longer than the rest. Then the 2nd series of lights blinks 5 times, and according to Metra's info, the ASWC think it's connected to a JVC unit (i have a kenwood DDx418). The ASWC should have a long led light on 3 and 5 on the first series of lights. I might go pickup another ASWC to see if the one I got is defective and since i bought an extra harness from David, I might just swap it out to see if it is the problem with the pins i installed to the scoche harness.
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03-06-2011, 04:59 PM | #13 |
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There's a quick test you can make with an ohm meter:
* Turn off ignition key * Unplug ASWC's harness from module * Use ohm meter to measure between the pins for the ASWC's black ground wire and ASWC's Green/Orange (from Subaru's pin 4) * Measure between the pins for the ASWC's black ground wire and ASWC's Black/Green (from Subaru's pin 13) If your meter's test leads won't make contact with the pins in the ASWC harness, use some short pieces of small-gauge wire (or a few strands of stranded wire) to poke into the pins. In both cases, you should see 100K ohms with no buttons pressed. You should see the following values as you press each button: Note: These values are for 2011 Impreza and Forester with the phone buttons on the wheel. Not Legacy/Outback. Subaru pins 4 to 14: Seek up - 0 ohms Seek down - 330 Vol up - 1000 Vol down - 3110 Subaru pins 13 to 14: Mode - 0 On hook - 330 Off hook - 1000 Talk - 3110 If you're not seeing that, you have a problem with your wiring (or a bad contact pin inside one of the connector shells). Make sure your Subaru pin 14 is tied to the ASWC's ground. |
03-06-2011, 10:06 PM | #14 |
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I will give it a go again next weekend. Thanks for the info David.
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03-06-2011, 11:11 PM | #15 |
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I will admit, when I first installed mine, I made the Orange/Green -Green/Orange error. Some of the buttons would work but not all, check your wiring. The stripes are very large and I confused the wires.
Also, I think that your Clarion may be the reason everything works as Subaru intended. My Pioneer will not do that. If I set it so it skips tracks properly, it won't skip presets on the radio, it only goes up .2 MHz at a time. If I do the opposite and set it so it skips presets, nothing happens when I try to change the tracks on my iPod or CD. |
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Dont feel bad. When I was installing my CX609 the orange/green stripes confused me too. I studied the pin out diagram to get it straight. Everything turned out fine and love the new HU. The bluetooth control buttons did not work for bluetooth but do for other functions and can be reprogramed.
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03-07-2011, 12:53 PM | #17 | |
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04-15-2011, 12:52 PM | #18 | |
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Where can I pickup some female contact pins that are inserted into the connector shell? I have already done all the soldering of radio wires and do not want to tear up my factor side harness! |
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