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Old 11-27-2001, 12:49 AM   #1
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Old 11-27-2001, 01:14 AM   #2
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13.5 with the aps stage1 kit.

which is unichip+fullexauhst+intake
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Old 11-27-2001, 01:39 AM   #3
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Impreziv ran against me at the import nationals and got a 13.1 with stock turbo and similar mods - but instead of unichip he had apexi afc tunned by Adam at Z1!!!!!
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Old 11-27-2001, 03:26 AM   #4
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There was a guy that had his car tuned by Mark at Turbo XS who does not post here that ran 13.0 @ 103 I know the guy has BPM exhaust components but he still had a cat in his exhaust system. Mark can probably answers any questions in full.

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Old 11-27-2001, 07:20 AM   #5
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SBC i-D and K&N Filter ("major" stuff)
Synthetic Engine and Tranny Lubes
Resonator Transectomy ("minor" stuff)

That netted me a string of 13.7s with the best being:
13.710 @ 98.23mph

Since, I have added the MRT BOV and I am in the process of ordering the Vishnu Performance Stage 0. The BOV made no improvements (duh) while I have still ran 13.7s with that installed. I have ran with factory boost and as high as 17.3psi with know noticeable gains in times or in the butt-dyno. The timing gets cut when boost is increased, so you break even for the most part.

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BTW- what was your 60' on that 13.66? Youve only got me by 0.05 seconds, but almost 2mph. I would think your 60' could be better.....just a thought, no flaming intended.
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Old 11-27-2001, 07:31 AM   #6
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With a full tank of gas??? Thats about an extra 100 lbs + probally? the spare tire, tools, jack.. it all adds up.. Also the guys that test crotch rockets run "thinner oil" and "fill to the minimum" It alll adds up... Food for thought.
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Old 11-27-2001, 08:30 AM   #7
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13.61 @ 98.4 mph
1.91 60' (still working on the launch, rode the clutch too much)
-I might have hit the rev limiter at the top of 2nd gear can`t remember

TurboXS Unichip
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Old 11-27-2001, 09:57 AM   #8
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Impreziv ran against me at the import nationals and got a 13.1 with stock turbo and similar mods - but instead of unichip he had apexi afc tunned by Adam at Z1!!!!!
yeah, I would think low 13's would be right with boost+full exhaust. You can run mid-high 13's without the exhaust/unichip. Nathan was right at 13.2 on stock turbo at elevation. I'm still waiting for someone to bust 12's on the stock turbo. It'll happen.

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Old 11-27-2001, 09:57 AM   #9
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My best is a 13.51 @ 100.44 with a 2.083 launch.I have the Turboxs chip ITG filter BPM gt exhaust. I just dynoed my new pe1818 at Marks (Turboxs) and we got 240 hp and 240 torque.I will be heading back to the track hopefully Saturday (weather and work permitting) I also heard about the car that ran a 13.0 @103 with the stock turbo and Turboxs chip.Thanks Michael
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Old 11-27-2001, 10:15 AM   #10
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BTW- my 13.710 time 60' was 1.900....
my best 60' to date was a 1.880 which netted me a 13.728.

I am going to order the unichip and should hopefully have it very soon....I am hoping for 2 to 3 tenths improvement total....well see....

If I can get my stuff in time Michael, I may see you at Cecil saturday......

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Old 11-27-2001, 10:17 AM   #11
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TypeC... yeah it will happen... imho the stock turbo is pretty powerful if used correctly... christ AK's REX is running mid 13's w/ a $4 mbc and next to nothing else... but I have this theory, that some share, that if you get a CAI, Up-pipe, Down Pipe, S-AFC, AVC-R and some sort of ITC (this has been suggested, even though I may not agree w/ its immediate necessity),... you could run 12's w/ the stock cat-back... but who wants a stock cat-back anyways hehe... but so far thats my planned upgrade path (but not in that order)...

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Old 11-27-2001, 10:28 AM   #12
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Silencer removal
k&n filter
Cobb tuned Unichip
no boost guage (i think like 15-15.5)
first time ever to drag race (at track)
1st run
14.036 @ 95.19
60' 1.873

2nd run
13.853 @ 95.96
60' 1.874

weight was 3275 pounds everything in the car and a full tank of gas. and I only used 1/4 tank of gas to get there, run, and get home.
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Old 11-27-2001, 10:30 AM   #13
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what is the basis of this theory?



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TypeC... yeah it will happen... imho the stock turbo is pretty powerful if used correctly... christ AK's REX is running mid 13's w/ a $4 mbc and next to nothing else... but I have this theory, that some share, that if you get a CAI, Up-pipe, Down Pipe, S-AFC, AVC-R and some sort of ITC (this has been suggested, even though I may not agree w/ its immediate necessity),... you could run 12's w/ the stock cat-back... but who wants a stock cat-back anyways hehe... but so far thats my planned upgrade path (but not in that order)...

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Old 11-27-2001, 10:48 AM   #14
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14.13 @ 103.5 off my G-tech.. K&N and Unichip, no exhaust...
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Old 11-27-2001, 10:50 AM   #15
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jmott, the theory is based on the fact that I prefer the ability to tune my car on the spot if need be... the main problem I have with the Unichips is that they constantly need to be reburned everytime you add a mod... I have seen great results in the rest of the import tuning world w/ the Apex'i setup as I've described and with proper time and care, it can make for a seriously potent car. The Apex'i setup gives you the ability to tune your car from mild to wild at any point in time yet doesn't require the technical skills that the MoTec system does... its a very good middle of the road solution imho...

on the basis of the 12's 1/4 mile times... combine what I've said above with increased breathing for the engine and it shouldn't be hard... Again I'll repeat the fact that AK's Rex is running mid 13's w/ a $4 mbc (post: http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...hreadid=115275)... personally, I really try to follow the tuning philosophy of get the car breathing freely first, then worry about the fuel, boost and ignition... upgrading the turbo (unlike alot of people) is one thing I don't plan on doing untill I have everything else sorted...

so my engine upgrade path will probably follow like this:
1.) AEM CAI (pending results from Conduit and wrx182)
2.) Vishnu Up-pipe, Undecided Down pipe, Stainless Cat-back
3.) Pulleys
4.) S-AFC, AVC-R, colder spark plugs and wires
5.) ITC, maybe STi Injectors
6.) STi Intake plenum (pending info on tumbler issue), Headers
7.) who knows @ this point... maybe that sequential turbo idea that I was telling Kensington and the other guys at Lapeer about...

--any opinions on the above?

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Old 11-27-2001, 11:48 AM   #16
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Hey guys,
Interesting topic. I was wondering how much different my car would be with the Unichip and this really confirms that I am pretty happy with my current setup. The unichip is a really great piece of equipment, but I change parts like I change moods so that wouldn't be all that good for me. Anyway, back to the subject at hand, in the current form my car is in I would certainly run a 12.90 something. At the time I ran the 13.1 against Al in the 80 degree weather the car was running well, and was tuned well, but now with the new exhaust and cooler weather, it would happen. I also have the ITC sitting in my dash not hooked up cause of my hectic schedule, and I know the Unichip adjusts timing, so that aone I am sure would be enough to get into the 12's. Maybe if I can free up a few days from work I can get it all hooked up and get my a$$ to the track and make some noise. Who knows.

On the other hand, I think that if Nate lived a little closer to sea level his car with the stock turbo and the Uni-chip would for sure have run 12.8's or 12.9's. I guess there is no way to guess though. We'll just see what happens.

Unfortunately (or not) I will probably not get the chance, like Nate, to better my own time on the stocker because of mods to come (read: new turbo) and the timing of work and Christmas and the fact that for the most part the race season is kind of over. Oh well, we will see.

Happy racing!!!

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Old 11-27-2001, 11:51 AM   #17
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certainly being able to tune the car yourself is a big plus for many.

I just dont see those tuning parts offering any magic as far as running a better time than a unichip with the same parts could.

both methods can hit the ideal timing/fuel/boost settings
at which point, thats the best you can do.

so, I just dont see where the unichip fits into this debate.
seems your just saying a stock turboed wrx can run 12s.

I think so to!
but it will be kinda on the ragged edge of safety!


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jmott, the theory is based on the fact that I prefer the ability to tune my car on the spot if need be... the main problem I have with the Unichips is that they constantly need to be reburned everytime you add a mod... I have seen great results in the rest of the import tuning world w/ the Apex'i setup as I've described and with proper time and care, it can make for a seriously potent car. The Apex'i setup gives you the ability to tune your car from mild to wild at any point in time yet doesn't require the technical skills that the MoTec system does... its a very good middle of the road solution imho...

on the basis of the 12's 1/4 mile times... combine what I've said above with increased breathing for the engine and it shouldn't be hard... Again I'll repeat the fact that AK's Rex is running mid 13's w/ a $4 mbc (post: http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...hreadid=115275)... personally, I really try to follow the tuning philosophy of get the car breathing freely first, then worry about the fuel, boost and ignition... upgrading the turbo (unlike alot of people) is one thing I don't plan on doing untill I have everything else sorted...

so my engine upgrade path will probably follow like this:
1.) AEM CAI (pending results from Conduit and wrx182)
2.) Vishnu Up-pipe, Undecided Down pipe, Stainless Cat-back
3.) Pulleys
4.) S-AFC, AVC-R, colder spark plugs and wires
5.) ITC, maybe STi Injectors
6.) STi Intake plenum (pending info on tumbler issue), Headers
7.) who knows @ this point... maybe that sequential turbo idea that I was telling Kensington and the other guys at Lapeer about...

--any opinions on the above?

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Old 11-27-2001, 11:59 AM   #18
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I wanted to also list my mods for those of you who may be interested:

Graham Goode 3 inch Downpipe
Kakimoto 1.0Z GT Exhaust, 3.1 Inch
Graham Goode Up pipe
Removed cats
Apex-i S-AFC
Apex-i ITC
HKS EVC-4 Boost Controller
Unorthodox Pulleys
Supra Twin Turbo Fuel Pump
Hyperflow Intake w/ K&N

I think thats about it.
Also I have the Kartboy Short Shifter which must save a little time.
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Old 11-27-2001, 12:19 PM   #19
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You guys need to work on your launches. i recorded a 13.44 at 99.2 mph at westhampton dragway in ny.

my mods are:
apexi avc-r boost controller set at 1.20 bar
injen cold air intake

and thats it.. i dont know if its a freak motor but with one mod im doing what you guys are doing with more done. I just ordered an apexi s-afc and bpm gt exhaust i guarantee a 12.8 at least and so far my predictions are right on.
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Old 11-27-2001, 12:35 PM   #20
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13.44 at 99+ mph is very fast for so few mods. What was your 60' time, did you run race gas, did you have the car stripped, or was there a full interior, do you only weigh 60 pounds, did you have a full tank of gas? There is really alot incorporated too. Who knows, maybe you just got a really fast car.
I know (knew) this girl that had a 89 or 90 accord ex that raced and beat every other accord ex from every other year and she had nothing done to the car, it was actually her mom's, but it was just really really fast!
Who knows, I would be happy with that!
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Old 11-27-2001, 03:07 PM   #21
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13.44 at 99+ mph is very fast for so few mods. What was your 60' time, did you run race gas, did you have the car stripped, or was there a full interior, do you only weigh 60 pounds, did you have a full tank of gas? There is really alot incorporated too. Who knows, maybe you just got a really fast car.
I know (knew) this girl that had a 89 or 90 accord ex that raced and beat every other accord ex from every other year and she had nothing done to the car, it was actually her mom's, but it was just really really fast!
Who knows, I would be happy with that!
also, there could have been a 90mph tail wind.

Nice runs. I agree some people with I/E, Chip, and BC are running BC times. I think the times will drop with practice (but I'm Aiming for high 12's).

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Old 11-28-2001, 12:27 AM   #22
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AW! I got left out... No worries... I just use the G-tech for reference anyhow.. all the tracks in Ontario have been closed for over a month...

One part of the equation that is of the utmost importance, but has been overlooked is not the maximum performance, since all the cars are so close, driver and atmospheric variances could more than compensate for the whole deal. The fastest car in the test could actually have poor tuning, but might have had a great driver, a good track and a tail-wind. (not knocking you or your car Impreziv).

What can't be measured is driveability. Sadly, I feel confident in saying that most of us can't afford a WRX to race on weekend, and something to drive around during the week.

So, peak performance is nice (don't get me wrong), but identifying who streetable the car is, is more important to met. If the guys with the high-end EBC's have no boost problems at part throttle, and thusly no overheating, their systems are going to be far more reliable and perform better in the long run.

This is just a consideration...
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Old 11-28-2001, 12:46 AM   #23
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dont forget Nathan did [email protected] with a unichip, EBC, and scoobysports exhaust..

and other dude did 13.0@103 with unichip, BPM exhust and MBC (i think it was an MBC) dyno tuned by mark
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<----Didn't post Caz I thought you just wanted UniChip times.

I did Indeed run a 13.61 1/4 with a 1.81 60 foot time with only 0.7 psi over stock boost (which I think is 14.2).

Mods are:
SBC-iD
Stromung Cat Back
ITG air Filter
Silencer Mod
Full tank of gas, spare & lug wrench and jack in the car.

My car has a smooth power band from 3000rpm to redline.
Which is where I think all my extra power comes from.
Compared to the stock Boost controller Which tapers off after 5500 rpm and felt like it was just making noise after that point, but my car feels strong all the way to redline now with the EBC.


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1.) AEM CAI (pending results from Conduit and wrx182)
I think these fall into the dress category. I think the limiting factor of air flow in the intake is the plastic piece that goes under the intake runners to the Turbo.

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Old 11-28-2001, 01:26 AM   #25
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i dont know where to begin...
i have an aps stage one kit with upgraded top mount intercooler.
i also have eibach springs and kyb agx struts.
stock rims and tires... full tank of gas. i weigh 157 lbs
i havent taken anything out. i still have my spare tire.
i ran 13.013 at 103.7 mph
at 4300 ft elevation
i sidestep the clutch at 6700 rpm.
my sixty ft was 1.653

however my unichip was tuned by modern garage in salt lake city
it is not tuned like any other chip. i am runnin 1.5 bar almost all the way to redline. falloff at 6500. i can run more psi because of my top mount i.c.

STOCK TURBO!!!
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