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04-14-2013, 04:41 PM | #2876 |
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Technically, it's a regulation. But you still don't want to be on the wrong side.
For example: http://www.nhtsa.gov/nhtsa/announce/...e=pr43-04.html Are the letters 'DOT' to be found anywhere on the aftermarket replacement part?
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04-14-2013, 05:55 PM | #2877 | |
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A friend told me his boss needed a new headlamp on a 2 or 3 year old forester with HIDs and it was like $900. - Paul G. |
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04-14-2013, 07:25 PM | #2878 |
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04-14-2013, 09:47 PM | #2879 | |
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Feel bad for your fellow CO drivers who are going to be blinded by your headlights. |
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04-14-2013, 10:32 PM | #2880 | |
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84002SG100 84002SG110 $826 MSRP a piece, so less than Eyesight package yes, cheap, no. If you order from Heuberger here in Colorado Springs though, you get 25% off. |
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04-14-2013, 11:20 PM | #2881 | |
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For example, good luck getting 25% off of an STi 6-speed . |
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04-15-2013, 12:53 AM | #2882 | ||
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04-15-2013, 01:26 AM | #2883 | |
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My 2005 STi didn't have auto levelers - was I blinding anybody? Didn't think so. Does the outgoing Forester have auto levelers? Many cars don't have auto levelers. Besides reflector-based HIDs aren't nearly as powerful as projector based. Most all of the German HIDs are projection and are auto-leveling because it is a safety issue on those things. My 1er's lights are freaking bright as hell. Last edited by Brahmzy; 04-15-2013 at 01:41 AM. |
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04-15-2013, 01:39 AM | #2884 | |
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I messed with the Eyesite stuff and while its 'neat', all of that stuff has a long way to go IMO. No way was it worth the money for me - Id never turn it on. |
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04-15-2013, 02:59 AM | #2885 | |
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04-15-2013, 07:10 AM | #2886 | |
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Yes. It did. And the point was having levelers at all, which your STi did have. |
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04-15-2013, 07:14 AM | #2887 | |
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It's on immediately when you turn the car on and goes active 7 seconds later. It is a really nice system. Probably wasn't demonstrated properly. I can understand not wanting it because of price, but I love the adaptive cruise control. When you say it has a long way to go, are you singling out EyeSight, or any system? |
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04-15-2013, 08:32 AM | #2888 | |
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The outgoing Forester most certainly had auto levelers. http://www.cars101.com/subaru/forest...ester2013.html If a car sold in the US doesn't have a manual leveling system for the HIDs (which is extremely rare), it has an auto leveling system... it's a DOT regulation for all new cars with HIDs. Reflector or projector, the "power" is the same.. since the bulbs are the same. Projectors tend to send less light above the horizontal (ie: a sharper cutoff) making them appear brighter to the driver, while reflectors send more light above, making them appear brighter to oncoming traffic. HIDs in halogen reflectors are the trifecta of bad lighting.. you're going to scatter too much of your light above the horizontal at oncoming traffic, have hotspots on the road and it will look terrible. You're already on 'The Retrofit Source'.. they sell great projector kits designed for HIDs.. so why not do it right? |
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04-15-2013, 10:01 AM | #2889 | |
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The keyless and Hids were what I wanted. I thought about doing Limited w/o Nav and doing my own stereo, but a decent touch screen is $800-$1000 and that doesn't include speakers or amps. So, the $2400 option seemed to make sense to me. It was essentially free based on my negotiated sale price. Paul G. |
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04-15-2013, 10:47 AM | #2890 | |
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But if you go through their parts website, it takes it off automatically. Every time I've ordered from them, I've gotten 25% off. |
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04-15-2013, 11:18 AM | #2891 |
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Not a drama queen, I am being completely honest. Why not follow CJ's recommendation and just do the complete retrofit projector HID kit? Sure you are spending a little more, but it isn't that much more. Then you know you did it right to begin with. |
04-15-2013, 11:20 AM | #2892 | |
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Dealers don't stock every single part in their parts department, especially larger low selling ticket items. If you walk in and order something, there is a chance they won't have it in stock that day. That's part of the game. There are regional parts warehouses that hold most parts to control dealer inventory. Most parts that I've ordered from them are in within ~3 days. I'm sure if you talk to them ahead of time and place an order, you can get the tranny given it might take a week or so to get it delivered to their parts department. You just have to plan accordingly but it's a 25% discount which is well worth it. Plus, I think the 25% discount only applies to website orders, because I think one person authorizes/controls that aspect of parts orders but don't quote me on that. Last edited by subyski; 04-15-2013 at 11:26 AM. |
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04-15-2013, 01:56 PM | #2893 | ||||||
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I did an HID conversion on my 2004 WRX which worked great. Nice clean cutoff with the factory reflectors. I got my 2005 STi with factory reflector HIDs - guess what - same exact freaking beam pattern/cutoff. I remember actually being a little disappointed as the manual leveler was about the only difference. I even had the 4300K color matched almost exactly in the '04 WRX. Upon further inspection of the reflectors, I found them to be near identical. Quote:
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Reflector headlights have gotten a LOT better since when HIDs first came out. Quote:
How all these ghetto aftermarket HIDs got a bad name is when Joe Blow with his 2003 Suburban with completely fogged up plastic headlights decides to throw in some HID bulbs and by doing so, basically created I gigantic blinding floodlight with no focus or direction or cutoff. Or Little Timmy in his 1998 Honda Civic sticks in the most purple HID bulbs he can find into his old fogged up headlights that never had any real beam 'pattern' or cutoff to speak of. It all depends on the vehicle and what beam pattern/cutoff the stock reflector have. Some cars are no-brainers, some I would never go there. Quote:
I'll be perfectly happy with just a bulb swap. I'm sure the '14's have a good beam pattern/cutoff. It will be fine and I and the other CO drivers will make it through this. We'll all continue to live happy and productive lives. And I'll have $2,250 more bucks in my checking account, or 5 car payments to some. More money to buy a catless downpipe and AP from COBB. |
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04-15-2013, 04:58 PM | #2894 |
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instead of plastidip and the sports grill I removed the grill and had a friend help me cf vinyl it! Doing this with the chrome fog trims as well. I also installed some hella horns =) H16 bulbs are really weird... so i ordered a set of h16 led for the fog bulbs but they look like h11 but smaller. I read over on the legacy forums subaru uses a bulb not widely used???? if you google h16 they come up like this anyone has any input? |
04-15-2013, 07:03 PM | #2895 |
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04-15-2013, 07:09 PM | #2896 | |
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I think it's weird to call them worthless. Most of Subaru's current fog lights are worthless as far as helping me see, but I assume it helps people to see me? I dunno. If that's not the case then they really are worthless. |
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04-15-2013, 07:27 PM | #2897 |
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04-15-2013, 07:27 PM | #2898 |
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04-15-2013, 07:43 PM | #2899 |
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I meant a situation where I'm in a neighborhood with a straight stretch of road or maybe a temporary straight stretch within the city. You really use you high beams in the city? Are there not enough street lights? Or do you not live in a city?
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04-15-2013, 08:01 PM | #2900 |
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You are WAY over thinking this. They are freakin' headlights. There is a correct default height for lo beams and high beams. If you're having to constantly jack around with the height of them while you're driving, please don't drive near me - I'd rather focus on driving and keep my hands on the wheel. I think playing with your lights all the time while you're driving is more of a risk to yourself and other drivers than any headlight. Do you also text and drive?
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