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10-03-2012, 02:39 AM | #176 | |
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10-03-2012, 05:04 PM | #177 | |
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the kit price includes high flow cat, but a lot of people are requesting cat-less so the price and listing will be adjusted to allow you to select cat or not every state is different, but we've passed 4/4 cars successfully so far! |
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10-03-2012, 05:07 PM | #178 | |
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10-03-2012, 05:15 PM | #179 |
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the EFR's integrated BOV is all you need, and how i prefer to set the cars up.
Some of our customers have asked to keep their BOV and piping for a couple reasons, whether "vent to atmosphere" sound or they simply dont want to block off the intake tubes recirc or whatever. This would be a con IMO because turbo speed won't stay up as high as the EFR bov only, which vents the high pressure outlet back into the turbo's compressor (low pressure) inlet |
10-03-2012, 05:31 PM | #180 |
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Will there be instructions on how to run all the vac lines? This little kit looks promising.
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10-03-2012, 05:37 PM | #181 |
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sure thing - its REALLY easy:
stock BOV vac line -> EFR BOV nipple stock WG hose -> EFR WG hose Obviously you need to have some tools and basic mechanical skill, but the hardware is all in place. We have the photos documenting every step - just need to get them organized and online with the content written up! oct30th is the 1st day of sema and our deadline for the EFR kits and content to be online |
10-03-2012, 06:03 PM | #182 |
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Will there be a TS variant stock location for using the JDM TS header?
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10-03-2012, 07:46 PM | #183 |
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10-03-2012, 08:23 PM | #184 |
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Sorry, I missed that in the thread
Thanks for the info! |
10-04-2012, 09:41 PM | #185 |
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10-05-2012, 08:17 AM | #186 |
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correct - Twinscroll EFR must be used in rotated configuration. The reason is it's a much longer unit than the T25 (measured axial length) and there is not enough space between a Subaru's intake manifold and firewall for this long a turbo + 3" vband downpipe to fit it all
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10-05-2012, 08:41 AM | #187 |
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this is the info that I needed.
Even without the firewall in the way, you add more and more length to the up-pipe, to line it up by the inlet tube and eventually, that offsets the spool gains anyway. But if there was an uppipe segment that mates the OEM twinscroll exhaust manifold, rotates the turbo and then a matching v-band downpipe, I could picture in my mind a silicone elbow coupler that would mate the compressor inlet, rotated as it is, to the turbo inlet in stock position. There are advantages to a twinscroll in a Subaru, it's worth keeping. |
10-05-2012, 05:43 PM | #188 |
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These need small vband exhaust housings bad (for ewg), just like the tial vband housings for garrett turbos. I would buy a 7163 for sure if something like that is released to go on my rotated vband kit. Thats the only thing thats a deal breaker for these turbos now... not many people want to or can nicely fit a super long turbo like this. Also anyway you look at it ewg>iwg, Sure the IWG design on these are MUCH better then normal but id still rather have a more compact turbo and run my ewg setup, its a win-win.
Im hoping for vband-inlet/outlet ewg exhuast housings to be released for these things, anyone else??? Also it looks like theres no need at all for a twinscroll setup with these smaller framed EFRs, our pre-turbo exhaust volume is already high enough with the extra long piping we already have... |
10-11-2012, 07:46 PM | #189 | |
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here is a dynochart a customer sent in of this kit with EFR6758 on a stock 2004 2.5L:
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the small frame EFR spool SO fast, i agree twinscroll is not nearly as big of a difference. The larger frame EFR's work great as singlescrolls with a T3 housing... But in twinscroll config their spoolup and response is the best ive experienced from any turbo mfg Last edited by Full-Race Geoff; 10-11-2012 at 07:51 PM. |
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10-11-2012, 08:05 PM | #190 |
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91,93?
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10-11-2012, 08:14 PM | #191 |
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91 octane
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10-11-2012, 08:35 PM | #192 | |
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I also like the wheel combos as they fit the suby a bit better with the larger turbine wheel (minus the required pressure ratios). |
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10-11-2012, 09:55 PM | #193 |
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Thanks Geoff. When will I be able to buy a 7163 along with these new vband ewg housings?
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10-11-2012, 09:58 PM | #194 |
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the 7163 is scheduled to be available for sale Summer of 2013 with that vband ewg option
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10-11-2012, 10:58 PM | #195 |
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Anyway we could get another dynograph of the 04 above?
Maybe one plotted against rpm, with boost plot? Or am i gonna have to buy one to find out for myself? Lol |
10-11-2012, 11:01 PM | #196 |
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Whats the projected price of JUST The turbo its self? (with all the EFR goodies,NOT the up pipe or down pipe)
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10-11-2012, 11:17 PM | #197 | |
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10-13-2012, 01:06 PM | #198 |
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Was hoping to see you guys @ MOD today! Was going to pick your brains about this kit. Maybe a visit is in order!
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10-15-2012, 09:02 PM | #199 | |
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Feel free to post up any questions you have, Im happy to answer. OR if you are in the phoenix area this winter you are welcome to see our 20k sqft facility and the mfg process sure, Ill email him now asking for the rpm and boost if they logged it. However since you are local to us (gilbert, AZ!) you should probably stop by and get one for yourself |
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10-15-2012, 09:04 PM | #200 | |
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