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Old 12-03-2007, 12:01 PM   #1
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Default someone please read my log

does anyone see anything out of the ordinary with this log?
I put a cai on the car ..if someone with more exp with tuning would let me know i would appreciate it.

3rd gear pulls to fuel cut

Thanks,

Code:
	afl	afc	clf	ct	el	rpm	fbkc	flkc	IAM	it	idc	iat	kc	lit	mrp	maf	wgdc	toa	mph


33:57.0	8.17	0	10	192	0.22	736	0	0	1	28	0.71	48	0	0	-9.43	3.85	0	2.75	31
33:57.4	9.21	0	10	192	0.26	915	0	0	1	23	1.57	48	0	0	-8.71	3.25	0	3.53	31
33:57.8	10.13	0	10	192	0.26	985	0	0	1	13.5	1.76	48	0	0	-9.58	3.04	0	2.75	29
33:58.2	10.83	0	10	190	0.21	834	0	0	1	12.5	1.68	48	0	0	-9.43	3.76	0	2.35	25
33:58.6	11.45	-2.34	8	190	0.23	992	0	0	1	22	1.42	48	0	0	-9.14	3.33	0	2.75	21
33:59.0	10.92	2.34	8	190	0.23	1638	0	0	1	18	1.69	48	0	0	-8.27	11.39	0	3.92	17
33:59.4	9.39	0.78	8	190	0.43	1523	0	0	1	39	4.94	48	0	0	-5.37	17.08	0	10.98	16
33:59.8	8.22	0	8	190	0.64	1594	0	0	1	34.5	5.46	48	3.68	0	-4.21	18.51	0	12.16	16
34:00.2	7.18	3.12	8	192	0.73	1690	0	0	1	33	6.1	48	6.59	4	-2.03	26.86	0	14.51	16
34:00.6	6.39	4.69	8	192	0.95	1865	0	0	1	25.5	8.29	48	5.68	6.5	-1.6	30.01	0	18.43	16
34:01.0	5.69	0	8	192	0.99	2007	0	0	1	27	9.13	48	5.03	5.5	-1.31	33.44	0	19.61	17
34:01.4	5.16	-3.12	8	192	1.03	2152	0	0	1	28.5	10.29	48	4.36	4.5	-0.73	38.63	0	21.18	18
34:01.8	3.58	-5.47	8	192	1.08	2350	0	0	1	28.5	11.11	48	4.16	4.5	-0.29	45.16	0	20.78	20
34:02.2	1.97	-5.47	8	192	1.15	2549	0	0	1	27.5	12.5	48	4.29	4.5	-0.15	49.2	0	21.57	22
34:02.6	0.53	-3.91	8	192	1.17	2761	0	0	1	28	13.69	48	4.19	4.5	0.29	54.76	0	21.96	22
34:03.0	-0.56	-2.34	8	192	1.19	2959	0	0	1	27.5	15.25	48	4.3	4	0.15	56.61	0	23.14	25
34:03.4	-1.53	-0.78	8	192	1.15	3153	0	0	1	30	15.83	48	4.49	4.5	0.15	60.15	0.39	23.14	27
34:03.8	-2.26	1.56	8	192	1.22	3389	0	0	1	29.5	18.23	48	6.71	4	3.05	78.63	2.35	28.24	29
34:04.2	-2.87	3.91	8	192	1.42	3620	0	0	1	23.5	22.5	48	6.34	6.5	3.05	86.57	3.92	33.33	31
34:04.6	-3.41	3.91	8	192	1.44	3846	0	0	1	24.5	24	48	5.92	6	2.32	89.32	3.14	34.12	34
34:05.0	-5.8	3.12	8	192	1.39	4096	0	0	1	26	24.69	48	4.49	5.5	0	79.5	0	32.16	34
34:05.4	-4.92	1.56	8	192	1.11	3966	0	-1.4	1	31.5	20.12	46	0	6	-10.16	14.14	0	23.53	37
34:05.8	-3.66	-9.38	8	192	0.21	3399	0	0	1	24	2.53	46	1.41	-1.5	-5.95	47.86	0	9.41	40
34:06.2	-5.8	0	10	192	0.94	3034	0	0	1	34.5	17.88	46	6.57	2.5	4.5	85.82	12.55	43.14	41
34:06.6	-5.8	0	10	192	1.72	3180	0	0	1	19.5	23.54	46	6.76	6.5	7.11	89.52	1.96	60.78	42
34:07.0	-5.8	0	10	192	1.69	3338	0	0	1	16.5	23.12	46	6.38	7	4.5	85.28	5.88	46.67	43
34:07.4	-5.8	9.38	8	192	1.53	3455	0	0	1	25	24.2	46	6.4	6.5	4.93	92.07	7.06	46.27	46
34:07.7	-5.8	14.06	8	192	1.6	3587	0	0	1	24.5	27.34	46	6.31	6.5	5.66	103.08	9.02	46.67	46
34:08.1	-5.8	17.19	8	192	1.72	3756	0	-2.1	1	23.5	30.74	46	3.53	6	7.69	130.68	34.9	52.94	48
34:08.5	-5.8	14.84	8	192	2.13	3952	0	-2.1	1	17.5	40.99	46	3.53	3.5	12.91	171.33	30.98	100	51
34:08.9	-5.8	5.47	8	192	2.6	4125	0	-2.1	1	10.5	48.07	46	3.53	3.5	11.9	172.09	30.2	100	53
34:09.3	-5.8	-0.78	8	192	2.47	4293	0	-2.1	1	10.5	45.48	46	3.53	3.5	11.46	173.6	33.33	100	57
34:09.7	-5.8	0	10	190	2.45	4436	0	-2.1	1	11.5	62.04	46	3.4	3.5	11.9	184.78	33.73	100	59
34:10.1	-5.8	0	10	190	2.52	4612	0	-2.1	1	12	66.53	46	2.45	3	12.04	192.59	32.94	100	59
34:10.5	-5.8	0	10	190	2.5	4786	0	-2.1	1	13	68.32	46	1.86	2.5	11.75	196.29	32.94	100	62
34:10.9	-5.8	0	10	190	2.5	4919	0	0	1	13.5	70.26	46	3.87	4	11.46	201.23	33.33	100	65
34:11.3	-5.8	0	10	190	2.5	5093	0	0	1	16	72.97	46	3.87	4	11.32	213.18	34.12	100	67
34:11.7	-5.8	0	10	190	2.52	5230	0	0	1	16	74.91	46	3.87	4	11.03	217.64	35.29	100	70
34:12.1	-5.8	0	10	190	2.49	5352	0	0	1	16	75.59	46	3.87	4	11.03	221.64	38.04	100	72
34:12.5	-5.8	0	10	190	2.46	5458	0	0	1	16.5	76.96	46	3.87	4	11.03	227.27	40	100	75
34:12.9	-5.8	0	10	190	2.47	5613	0	-0.7	1	17	77.36	46	3.16	4	10.88	225.39	41.96	100	75
34:13.3	-5.8	0	10	190	2.42	5726	0	-0.7	1	16.5	77.93	46	3.07	3	10.74	227.27	37.25	100	77
34:13.7	-5.8	0	10	190	2.39	5799	0	-0.7	1	17	77.88	46	2.95	3	10.45	227.76	34.12	100	80
34:14.1	-5.8	0	10	190	2.34	5915	0	-0.7	1	18	78.41	46	2.9	3	10.16	222.09	29.8	100	81
34:14.5	-5.8	0	10	190	2.27	6001	0	-0.7	1	18.5	78.25	46	2.82	3	9.72	225.35	26.27	100	83
34:14.9	-5.8	0	10	189	2.22	6090	0	-0.7	1	19	78.59	46	2.82	3	9.43	219.86	23.53	100	85
34:15.3	-5.8	0	10	189	2.17	6226	0	-0.35	1	19	76.77	46	3.17	3	8.85	215.86	20	100	86
34:15.7	-5.8	0	10	189	2.13	6265	0	-0.35	1	20	77.04	46	3.17	3	8.42	220.31	17.65	100	86
34:16.1	-5.8	0	10	189	2.07	6342	0	0	1	20.5	76.65	46	3.52	3	8.13	216.75	15.69	100	88
34:16.5	-5.8	0	10	187	2.05	6471	0	0	1	21	77.19	46	3.52	3.5	7.84	210.96	13.73	100	89
34:16.9	-5.8	0	10	187	1.97	6532	0	0	1	21.5	75.91	46	3.68	3.5	5.95	200.41	0	90.2	91
34:17.3	-5.8	0	10	187	1.78	6591	0	0	1	23.5	69.3	46	3.52	3.5	3.05	169.06	0	50.59	92
34:17.7	-5.8	0	10	185	1.53	6591	0	0	1	27.5	60.4	46	3.52	3.5	2.61	162.74	0	45.1	93
34:18.0	-5.8	0	10	185	1.5	6671	0	0	1	28	59.11	46	3.52	3.5	3.05	170.57	0	45.88	93
34:18.4	-5.8	0	10	183	1.52	6785	0	0	1	27.5	61.21	46	3.38	3.5	3.05	146.8	0	46.67	94
34:18.8	-5.8	0	10	183	1.4	6712	0	0	1	29	4.3	46	3.43	3.5	2.47	147.12	0	47.06	95
sorry i tried to clean it up..I am new to all of this..if someone could make it look better please do so...also is there anything happening that would make sense to go back to the stock CAI?

thank you so much!!

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Old 12-03-2007, 12:04 PM   #2
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This is actually the 1st pull..
Code:
 

	afl	afc	clf	ct	el	rpm	fbkc	flkc	IAM	it	idc	iat	kc	lit	mrp	maf	wgdc	toa	mph

31:43.2	-2.61	3.12	8	194	0.23	2454	0	0	1	47.5	4.19	43	0	0	-10.45	7.02	0	6.27	73
31:43.6	-2.17	0	10	194	0.18	4524	0	0	1	43	1.57	43	4.49	0	0.29	84.8	34.51	5.88	73
31:44.0	-2.82	0	10	194	1.31	5098	0	0	1	21.5	35.99	43	3.87	4	11.75	223.46	39.22	100	73
31:44.4	-3.35	0	10	194	2.69	5173	0	0	1	16	86.14	43	3.87	4	11.75	223.94	36.86	100	72
31:44.8	-3.82	0	10	194	2.62	5321	0	0	1	16	82.58	43	3.87	4	11.32	224.42	39.22	100	72
31:45.2	-5.9	0	10	194	2.55	5438	0	0	1	16	81.01	43	3.87	4	11.17	228.24	40.39	100	73
31:45.6	-5.9	0	10	194	2.5	5580	0	0	1	16.5	78.26	43	3.87	4	11.03	229.68	41.96	100	75
31:46.0	-5.9	0	10	194	2.47	5668	0	-1.4	1	17	79.4	43	2.38	4	11.03	233.05	40.78	100	77
31:46.4	-5.9	0	10	194	2.46	5760	0	-1.4	1	16	80.2	43	2.32	2.5	10.88	229.2	33.73	100	80
31:46.8	-5.9	0	10	194	2.43	5863	0	-1.4	1	16.5	78.76	43	2.24	2.5	10.45	233.53	30.98	100	81
31:47.2	-5.9	0	10	194	2.38	6011	0	-1.4	1	17	80.6	43	2.12	2	10.16	229.68	27.45	100	83
31:47.6	-5.9	0	10	192	2.28	6079	0	-1.4	1	17.5	79.06	43	2.12	2	9.72	226.79	21.96	100	83
31:48.0	-5.9	0	10	192	2.26	6168	0	-1.4	1	18	79.18	43	2.12	2	9.29	230.64	20.78	100	85
31:48.4	-5.9	0	10	190	2.2	6240	0	-1.05	1	18.5	79.01	43	2.47	2	8.85	226.31	17.25	100	86
31:48.7	-5.9	0	10	190	2.12	6312	0	-1.05	1	19	75.93	43	2.47	2.5	8.27	221.2	15.29	100	88
31:49.1	-5.9	0	10	189	2.12	6380	0	-1.05	1	19.5	77.76	43	2.47	2.5	8.13	218.08	15.29	100	89
31:49.5	-5.9	0	10	187	2.06	6441	0	-0.7	1	20	77.54	43	2.82	3	7.98	215.86	13.73	100	90
31:49.9	-5.9	0	10	185	2.03	6502	0	-0.7	1	20.5	76.45	43	2.82	3	7.4	213.18	2.35	100	90
31:50.3	-5.9	0	10	185	1.92	6556	0	0	1	21.5	74.47	43	3.7	3	4.06	177.01	0	63.14	91
31:50.7	-5.9	0	10	183	1.61	6536	0	0	1	26.5	62.96	43	3.52	3.5	2.61	168.68	0	44.71	92
31:51.1	-5.9	0	10	183	1.52	6574	0	0	1	27.5	58.59	43	3.52	3.5	2.76	166.79	0	45.1	93
31:51.5	-5.9	0	10	181	1.52	6606	0	0	1	28	60.34	43	3.52	3.5	3.05	170.57	0	45.49	94
31:51.9	-5.9	0	10	181	1.55	6682	0	0	1	27.5	60.64	43	3.53	3.5	3.19	172.47	0	45.88	94
31:52.3	-5.9	0	10	180	1.54	6690	0	0	1	27.5	60.92	43	3.52	3.5	3.19	154.05	0	46.67	94
31:52.7	-5.9	0	10	180	1.42	6594	0	0	1	29	4.33	43	0	3.5	-7.11	47.18	0	47.06	94
31:53.1	-4.66	0	10	180	0.39	6513	0	0	1	44	4.24	43	0	0	-10.16	19.43	0	15.69	95
31:53.5	-3.32	0	10	180	0.18	6215	0	0	1	24	4.14	43	0	0	-10.3	19.02	0	11.76	94

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Old 12-03-2007, 12:06 PM   #3
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GOD i suck at posting this stuff! sorry guys!

edit ..ok i got it to look alot better..
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you need to label the columns, hard to tell what is what also needs a mod list
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Bump..PM sent to gabedude. thanks in advance!
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you need to label the columns, hard to tell what is what also needs a mod list
I tried to do that but it never would line up ..but here is how the reading left to right -
TimeAF Learning #1 (Current)* (%)
Air/Fuel Correction #1 (%)
CL/OL Fueling* (status)
Coolant Temperature (F)
Engine Load* (g/rev)
Engine Speed (rpm)
Feedback Knock Correction* (degrees)
Fine Learning Knock Correction* (degrees)
IAM* (multiplier)
Ignition Timing (degrees)
Injector Duty Cycle (%)
Intake Air Temperature (F)
Knock Correction* (degrees)
Learned Ignition Timing (degrees)
Manifold Rel. Pressure (Corrected) (psi)
Mass Air Flow (g/s)
Primary Wastegate Duty Cycle (%)
Throttle Opening Angle (%)
Vehicle Speed (mph)



mods are just the burschur ebay knock cai and a spacer at the axle on the exhaust...everything else is stock.

I appreciate your help.

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First off, get rid of the non WOT data and format some headers on the data columns.

You need to do a full throttle 3rd gear pull from 2k-fuel cut.

Timing: The ECU has learned to pull a little timing out. Also, the DA map has a max of 3.87 it looks like. Your tuner has efectively disabled Course Ign correction. He mine as well put 0's in there if he wants to tune this way. I never have anything less than 4 unless I want that load/rpm range to not be able to trigger an IAM re-evaluation due to knock (I only do this below 1.3 loads).

Fuel: Your WOT fuel trims have not learned yet (the value is 0 for AFL#1 when you go WOT). You should do more highway driving to get that value to move.

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gabe thank you for replying! This was just to see how the car was running not to tune anything at all. It's strange that you are stating that the ecu has yet to learn...i do 90% of highway driving with this car pretty much everyday...it did learn a little...i can post the whole log from idle through 2 3rd gear pulls to fuel cut ....give me a min to post it..
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I tried to do that but it never would line up ..but here is how the reading left to right -
TimeAF Learning #1 (Current)* (%) afl
Air/Fuel Correction #1 (%) afc
CL/OL Fueling* (status) clf
Coolant Temperature (F) ct
Engine Load* (g/rev) el
Engine Speed (rpm) rpm
Feedback Knock Correction* (degrees) fbkc
Fine Learning Knock Correction* (degrees) flkc
IAM* (multiplier) iam
Ignition Timing (degrees) it
Injector Duty Cycle (%) idc
Intake Air Temperature (F) iat
Knock Correction* (degrees) kc
Learned Ignition Timing (degrees) lit
Manifold Rel. Pressure (Corrected) (psi) mrp
Mass Air Flow (g/s) maf
Primary Wastegate Duty Cycle (%) wgdc
Throttle Opening Angle (%) toa
Vehicle Speed (mph) mph



mods are just the burschur ebay knock cai and a spacer at the axle on the exhaust...everything else is stock.

I appreciate your help.

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you can use the red as abbreviations for each so that they will fit
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:54 PM   #10
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will do ..i'll change them to reflect that

Gabe can I send you this whole log..i am unable to upload the entire thing for some reason. Basically all I want to know is how the intake could be effecting the car.

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gabe thank you for replying! This was just to see how the car was running not to tune anything at all. It's strange that you are stating that the ecu has yet to learn...i do 90% of highway driving with this car pretty much everyday...it did learn a little...i can post the whole log from idle through 2 3rd gear pulls to fuel cut ....give me a min to post it..
The D Range of AFL is the one carried into open loop. It looks like either the tuner has zeroed the O/L - C/L delay and has AFR set for less than 14.5:1 in the cells where the D range learns fuel. That is probably why the D range has not moved from 0. If you 0 the delay, you have to have some spots in the primary fueling map that hit that MAFv (the ECU uses G/S between 40-80 to learn the D range) and call for a stoich AFR (no richer than 14.5:1).

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Per John he pulled just the log and never changed anything...he said that from he could tell the car was not learning any timing as the stock ecu only sees that between 2-4 rpm. Gabe is that correct? can i send you the whole log and have you look at it?
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Bump... gabe when you get some time can you expand on what you meant in your last post? I had john ( vettboi88 ) look at the post and he said he was not sure what you meant as it was just logging the STOCK map..we have not flashed anything at all. I am thinking of going to your stage 1 map....do you think this is wise?

also I cleaned up the logs and labeled the columns.

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