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11-26-2006, 06:33 PM | #1 |
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Summer tires in the snow
I have BF goodrick K/W summer tires and its snowing right now. Could I still drive with these on or would they be useless in the snow?
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11-26-2006, 06:40 PM | #2 |
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i wouldnt but is fun but frustrating at the same time and very dangerous
and where are u that you got snow already? i cant wait to snow here |
11-26-2006, 06:50 PM | #3 |
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Seattle, WA. I just tried driving up and down the block. Its easy to get sideways. Tried to make a U turn and the whole back end just kind of fishtailed while the front stayed stationary for the most part. Takes a lil longer to come to a complete stop. All this was at less then 10MPH. If it continues like this I dont think Im going to work tomorrow.
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11-26-2006, 06:59 PM | #4 |
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I just finished a drive up from Mt Bachelor to Edmonds via Highway 26 which was fully covered with snow from ~80 miles south of Govt Camp all the way to just south of Sandy. I would NEVER have been able to make it home on summer tires nor would I attempt it. I'm running Hankook Icebear w300 or something like that and can honestly recommend them for compact snow and slush. I didn't test their ice grip much, nor did I want to.
I have heard of people trying to run those BFs in Alaska on the snow and hating them. Do not put yourself in a position where you have to run them on snow. Do the smart thing. |
11-26-2006, 09:10 PM | #5 |
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Any tire that is designated as a summer tire shouldn't be run in the winter. Summer tires are usually made from compounds that become harder and lose grip when the temps approach and drop below freezing. The tread generally is patterned in larger blocks which doesn't do anything for grip in the snow. So combine the poor tread pattern for snow/slush with the wrong rubber compound for that temp and you are setting yourself up for a head on collision with that tree.
It's not worth it, don't try it...even at 10mph you could easily end up sliding into a curb, parked car, etc. |
11-26-2006, 09:24 PM | #6 |
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I wouldnt try it via previous experience with summer tires in snow.
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11-26-2006, 09:44 PM | #7 |
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summer tires = summer only
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11-26-2006, 09:51 PM | #8 |
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If you only have one set of wheels I recommend Hankook Ventus V4ES. You sacrifice some sidewall stiffness but maintain pretty good grip dry/wet. Treadwear is also awesome compared to most.
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11-26-2006, 10:19 PM | #9 |
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Drive to a Discount Tire or something and get some snow tires tomorrow, you don't have any other choice. But think of it this way, you'll spend at least your $500 deductible if you get in a wreck, might as well spend that one some tires instead.
You could call around first thing in the morning and check stock and set an appointment, be in and out in less than an hour. I suggest Discount Tire because they actually torque your lugs on, not just hammer them with an air gun, and have decent prices. Good luck, let us know what you get. |
11-26-2006, 11:46 PM | #10 |
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I live on Whidbey Island and am enjoying the same snow as the rest of the greater Seattle area. Due to a road hazzard I encountered last week, I killed one of my Pzero Nero M+S and had to put my summer Goodyear F1s back on. Miserable in the snow!!! I have some Proxes4 showing up at the local Les Schwab tomorrow. Like the others have said - summer tires are NOT for snow. My car is parked down the street. Driveway is too steep to take a chance. David
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11-27-2006, 08:18 AM | #11 |
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11-27-2006, 09:55 AM | #12 |
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11-27-2006, 03:32 PM | #13 | |
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11-27-2006, 03:34 PM | #14 |
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Sure you can drive and go straight .... but you won't be able to brake, or turn at all
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11-27-2006, 08:25 PM | #15 |
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sounds pretty dangerous. 10mph and its hard to stop and turn? i wouldnt drive at all dude
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11-27-2006, 09:01 PM | #16 |
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its not just the snow...below certain temps the tires wont heat up...its like driving on bare rims...you really shouldnt drive in the snow with summers or even in cold temps.
at least get some all-seasons. |
11-29-2006, 01:05 AM | #17 |
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I drove in this nasty snowy weather last night on bridgestone RE-01R's and I put on some hankook w300's today if that says anything...
The rubber compound of a summer tire get extremely hard in below freezing temps. |
11-29-2006, 01:11 AM | #18 |
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Don't do it...at least get some cheap all season tires. That is how I ate a curb with my Civic in Alaska.
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11-29-2006, 01:27 AM | #19 |
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learned that real quick..granted i could adapt, its not worth the risk in an emergency situation, be stupid to total ur car just cause u were didnt wanna spend the money to buy snow tires
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11-29-2006, 05:28 AM | #20 |
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I made the mistake of not getting my stock wheels with the Yoko IG721's put on last Friday. Didn't want to wait the 3 hrs Discount Tire was telling me it would take to switch them out, just figured I'd take the girlfriends Jeep up to Stevens Pass that Sunday instead of my car. Well, I had to work Monday night and I still had Kuhmo Ecsta SPT's on my car. Tuesday morning @ 6am I had to drive from Seattle to Issaquah after being at work all night. All I have to say is I will never do that again. After getting off I-90 at W. Lake Sammish Pkwy I didn't even bother to try take my car out of 1st gear, didn't want to become one of those casualties off in the ditch.
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11-29-2006, 07:31 PM | #21 |
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I tried those in the snow with the same results as you. I have since gone to the Yoko Advan S4 and they give up nothing to the Kumhos in dry traction performance. Not sure how good they'll will be in the snow but I have a set of Blizzak LM-25s mounted on my stock wheels in case I have the need.
I have some more info on the Advan S4 here. |
11-30-2006, 01:45 PM | #22 | |
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Also, the clutch can be your friend in a slide. SOOOO much nicer than any automatic on ice (just put in the clutch before trying to stop, vs. always having the tranny pushing on the tires). |
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11-30-2006, 02:03 PM | #23 |
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For people who would actually use the search function, I'd say, never drive on summer tires in snow or wintery conditions. The tire compounds that make excellent grip in warm weather on a dry surface simply don't provide enough traction for safe operation on a public road when the temperature is below freezing, especially if there is any precipitation on the ground.
For people who might be too lazy or dysfunctional to search, but who would still quickly scan a forum they are about to post in to see if there might be another thread there discussing the same topic, I would say no, don't drive on summer tires if there is snow on the ground unless you are absolutely going to die if you don't, not safe, will result in car damage. For you, I say, what the hell! Go for it! It'll be fun! |
11-30-2006, 04:52 PM | #24 | |
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