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02-28-2013, 06:56 PM | #51 | |
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When the car went 10.01 or whatever it did when we went car bowling for fun one night back in the end of 09 it was making 600whp on a HTA3586 and weighed 2900lbs wet with driver (If I recall we ran the piss out of that turbo to make 600whp). For the topic in hand and quoted numbers for the BC rods that we run, the car made a little over 1000whp running a GTX4294 and some juice, this was done as a pure dyno queen test and was by no means a stress test as we had and still have issues with the nitrous controller. I can say we have run the piss out of the BC rods at 750whp with no issue. Our current setup should run around 850whp all day so as soon as I finish it and we have some track time under our belts I'll be sure to let everyone know how the rods look.
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02-28-2013, 07:39 PM | #52 | |
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03-07-2013, 10:24 AM | #53 | |
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Which BC I-Beams are you guys using? the ones with the standard ARP 2000 bolts or the ones with the 625+ custom age bolts? what is the redline of these cars? |
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03-07-2013, 12:40 PM | #54 |
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Tagged for interest.
I might be looking at the Brian Crower I beams for my build. Currently have a FP Green may in the future go to a FP Red.... |
03-12-2013, 01:19 PM | #55 |
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Our car runs the 625+ bolts, Redline is currently set at 8600rpm although when I was testing the GTX4294 I was stopping the run at 9100rpm.
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03-12-2013, 01:22 PM | #56 |
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03-12-2013, 01:26 PM | #57 |
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Just for clarity's sake I will say I have no extended data on running above 8600rpm, the testing on the large frame turbo was not complete and really just to generate dyno graphs at the time.
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04-04-2013, 02:43 PM | #58 |
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Any more info on these rods? Looking to order parts in the next week or two. Trying to decide what direction to go with rods.
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02-19-2014, 09:40 PM | #59 |
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BC I-beams vs Manley H-tuff rods? |
02-20-2014, 09:59 AM | #60 |
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03-17-2014, 10:07 PM | #61 |
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I ate my words with these rods. I decided to take them up on the offer and I am very happy I did. Rods have given me 0 issues on my 140mph daily. Very impressed
I have the Ibeam with 625s |
03-17-2014, 10:35 PM | #62 | |
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03-18-2014, 07:00 AM | #63 |
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very interesting
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03-18-2014, 07:24 AM | #64 |
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So which rod would you say was the better steel rod the bc I beam, manley I beam, or pauter x beam?
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03-18-2014, 09:34 AM | #65 |
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I'm going to go with CP pistons and BC H-beam rods for 450-500 WHP. Sounds like they should be perfect for my build!
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03-18-2014, 10:13 AM | #66 |
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03-18-2014, 10:15 AM | #67 |
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I just broke a manley h beam on a 5858 at 19 to 20 psi and around 390 to 400hp. It broke at around 6k rpm. A stock rod is better imho. I wont be using the regular manley h beams on any builds that we sell. Stick with stock or a good I beam rod. Maybe the pro h beam or turbo tuff h beam over stock.
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03-18-2014, 10:37 AM | #68 | |
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I've been saying the same for years. Stock or a good rod like Pauter/Carrillo and even the BC-I with 625s now are good choices. |
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03-18-2014, 10:39 AM | #69 |
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03-18-2014, 12:02 PM | #70 |
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Kind of confusing, because H beams are supposed to be stronger than I-beams, in terms of design..
If the rods have 100,000 miles on them, should I stick with them or replace them while i'm in there? |
03-18-2014, 03:50 PM | #71 |
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Who told you h beam should be stronger by design? They are wrong. Only advantage h beam has is weight. Less weight always means less metal thus less strength.
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03-18-2014, 05:39 PM | #72 |
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Do you think the Brian Crower H-beams would be sufficient for less than 450 hp? Or should I go with the Carillo Pro-H ?
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03-18-2014, 06:16 PM | #73 |
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Like Jr says, stock or I beam. ~450wtq is prob the point at which you cross over. I am shooting for ~420wtq on pump and 500wtqish on E85 and I went with Manley I beams.
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03-19-2014, 01:41 PM | #74 |
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I have a set of bc hbeams in my motor. They've been through a decent amount.
I daily drive a twinscroll 8375 (a 8374 as soon as the GFs car is finished) - I run 16-20psi on pump 90+meth then around 25psi with 100oct+meth. Ive also thrown nitrous at it from a 35 to 70shot and the rods are holding up great as far as I can tell. I had the nos come on everywhere after boost onset post 3000rpm but I restricted it to spoolup since im cheap and its 80 bucks for a 10lb bottle up here :|. So there ya go, the bc h beams should be able to take 500wtq or so without too much trouble. |
03-21-2014, 01:41 PM | #75 |
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^ Thanks for the info dude! I'm going to pull the trigger on the CP pistons / BC H-beams then.
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