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Old 02-28-2013, 06:56 PM   #51
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Understandable, but that car isn't making more then 700whp on a GTX35r. It is probably SUPER light
Unless it's quoted from me then nobody ever said what the car has made on a GTX35r as I have only once published a dyno chart for the car some 4 years ago.

When the car went 10.01 or whatever it did when we went car bowling for fun one night back in the end of 09 it was making 600whp on a HTA3586 and weighed 2900lbs wet with driver (If I recall we ran the piss out of that turbo to make 600whp).

For the topic in hand and quoted numbers for the BC rods that we run, the car made a little over 1000whp running a GTX4294 and some juice, this was done as a pure dyno queen test and was by no means a stress test as we had and still have issues with the nitrous controller.

I can say we have run the piss out of the BC rods at 750whp with no issue.

Our current setup should run around 850whp all day so as soon as I finish it and we have some track time under our belts I'll be sure to let everyone know how the rods look.
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Old 02-28-2013, 07:39 PM   #52
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Unless it's quoted from me then nobody ever said what the car has made on a GTX35r as I have only once published a dyno chart for the car some 4 years ago.

When the car went 10.01 or whatever it did when we went car bowling for fun one night back in the end of 09 it was making 600whp on a HTA3586 and weighed 2900lbs wet with driver (If I recall we ran the piss out of that turbo to make 600whp).

For the topic in hand and quoted numbers for the BC rods that we run, the car made a little over 1000whp running a GTX4294 and some juice, this was done as a pure dyno queen test and was by no means a stress test as we had and still have issues with the nitrous controller.

I can say we have run the piss out of the BC rods at 750whp with no issue.

Our current setup should run around 850whp all day so as soon as I finish it and we have some track time under our belts I'll be sure to let everyone know how the rods look.
Great to hear, I appreciate the input. I am going with the BC I beams with 625 bolts. Waiting on a call from Dustin for a fresh batch. They will see at least 700whp.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:24 AM   #53
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Unless it's quoted from me then nobody ever said what the car has made on a GTX35r as I have only once published a dyno chart for the car some 4 years ago.

When the car went 10.01 or whatever it did when we went car bowling for fun one night back in the end of 09 it was making 600whp on a HTA3586 and weighed 2900lbs wet with driver (If I recall we ran the piss out of that turbo to make 600whp).

For the topic in hand and quoted numbers for the BC rods that we run, the car made a little over 1000whp running a GTX4294 and some juice, this was done as a pure dyno queen test and was by no means a stress test as we had and still have issues with the nitrous controller.

I can say we have run the piss out of the BC rods at 750whp with no issue.

Our current setup should run around 850whp all day so as soon as I finish it and we have some track time under our belts I'll be sure to let everyone know how the rods look.
GST, TIC etc etc

Which BC I-Beams are you guys using? the ones with the standard ARP 2000 bolts or the ones with the 625+ custom age bolts? what is the redline of these cars?
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:40 PM   #54
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Tagged for interest.

I might be looking at the Brian Crower I beams for my build. Currently have a FP Green may in the future go to a FP Red....
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:19 PM   #55
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GST, TIC etc etc

Which BC I-Beams are you guys using? the ones with the standard ARP 2000 bolts or the ones with the 625+ custom age bolts? what is the redline of these cars?
Our car runs the 625+ bolts, Redline is currently set at 8600rpm although when I was testing the GTX4294 I was stopping the run at 9100rpm.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:22 PM   #56
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Our car runs the 625+ bolts, Redline is currently set at 8600rpm although when I was testing the GTX4294 I was stopping the run at 9100rpm.
Good to know. I'm going with the 625s as well and planning on 8500-9000 on a FP 3794
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:26 PM   #57
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Good to know. I'm going with the 625s as well and planning on 8500-9000 on a FP 3794
Just for clarity's sake I will say I have no extended data on running above 8600rpm, the testing on the large frame turbo was not complete and really just to generate dyno graphs at the time.
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:43 PM   #58
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Any more info on these rods? Looking to order parts in the next week or two. Trying to decide what direction to go with rods.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:40 PM   #59
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Bump

BC I-beams vs Manley H-tuff rods?
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:59 AM   #60
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Bump BC I-beams vs Manley H-tuff rods?
Id bet those h beams are good for 600+ what's the weight difference?
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:07 PM   #61
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I ate my words with these rods. I decided to take them up on the offer and I am very happy I did. Rods have given me 0 issues on my 140mph daily. Very impressed
I have the Ibeam with 625s

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Old 03-17-2014, 10:35 PM   #62
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I ate my words with these rods. I decided to take them up on the offer and I am very happy I did. Rods have given me 0 issues on my 140mph daily. Very impressed
I have the Ibeam with 625s

http://youtu.be/qtavN2vIi38
No kidding... Would have never guessed. I was going to go with the BCs but I couldn't get ahold of Dustin in time and ended up picking up the Carrillo Pro H beams.
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:00 AM   #63
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very interesting
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:24 AM   #64
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So which rod would you say was the better steel rod the bc I beam, manley I beam, or pauter x beam?
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:34 AM   #65
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I'm going to go with CP pistons and BC H-beam rods for 450-500 WHP. Sounds like they should be perfect for my build!
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:13 AM   #66
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So which rod would you say was the better steel rod the bc I beam, manley I beam, or pauter x beam?
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I'm going to go with CP pistons and BC H-beam rods for 450-500 WHP. Sounds like they should be perfect for my build!
I just broke a manley h beam on a 5858 at 19 to 20 psi and around 390 to 400hp. It broke at around 6k rpm. A stock rod is better imho. I wont be using the regular manley h beams on any builds that we sell. Stick with stock or a good I beam rod. Maybe the pro h beam or turbo tuff h beam over stock.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:37 AM   #68
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I just broke a manley h beam on a 5858 at 19 to 20 psi and around 390 to 400hp. It broke at around 6k rpm. A stock rod is better imho. I wont be using the regular manley h beams on any builds that we sell. Stick with stock or a good I beam rod. Maybe the pro h beam or turbo tuff h beam over stock.

I've been saying the same for years. Stock or a good rod like Pauter/Carrillo and even the BC-I with 625s now are good choices.
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So which rod would you say was the better steel rod the bc I beam, manley I beam, or pauter x beam?
The Pauter x has never let me down.
The BC-I is doing it's job well on my daily that traps 140.
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Kind of confusing, because H beams are supposed to be stronger than I-beams, in terms of design..

If the rods have 100,000 miles on them, should I stick with them or replace them while i'm in there?
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Kind of confusing, because H beams are supposed to be stronger than I-beams, in terms of design..

If the rods have 100,000 miles on them, should I stick with them or replace them while i'm in there?
Who told you h beam should be stronger by design? They are wrong. Only advantage h beam has is weight. Less weight always means less metal thus less strength.
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Who told you h beam should be stronger by design? They are wrong. Only advantage h beam has is weight. Less weight always means less metal thus less strength.
Do you think the Brian Crower H-beams would be sufficient for less than 450 hp? Or should I go with the Carillo Pro-H ?
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:16 PM   #73
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Do you think the Brian Crower H-beams would be sufficient for less than 450 hp? Or should I go with the Carillo Pro-H ?
Like Jr says, stock or I beam. ~450wtq is prob the point at which you cross over. I am shooting for ~420wtq on pump and 500wtqish on E85 and I went with Manley I beams.
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I have a set of bc hbeams in my motor. They've been through a decent amount.
I daily drive a twinscroll 8375 (a 8374 as soon as the GFs car is finished) - I run 16-20psi on pump 90+meth then around 25psi with 100oct+meth.

Ive also thrown nitrous at it from a 35 to 70shot and the rods are holding up great as far as I can tell. I had the nos come on everywhere after boost onset post 3000rpm but I restricted it to spoolup since im cheap and its 80 bucks for a 10lb bottle up here :|.

So there ya go, the bc h beams should be able to take 500wtq or so without too much trouble.
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^ Thanks for the info dude! I'm going to pull the trigger on the CP pistons / BC H-beams then.
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