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Old 10-15-2012, 08:50 AM   #226
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Is there an auto show 11/1 somewhere or are they just going to do it at Subaru?
There's an auto show somewhere in the world every week of the year. For example, the Connecticut International Auto Show opens to the public in Hartford, CT on Nov 2. If that show had a press day, it would be Nov 1.

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The Forester normally does not have an unveiling at a car show.
Not so fast.

On Feb 6, 2002 SOA introduced the 2nd gen Forester to North America at the 2002 Chicago Auto Show (see http://www.fhi.co.jp/english/news/pr...2/02_02_07.htm). As far as I can determine, that was the first official public display of the 2nd gen Forester anywhere in the world.

Just six days later FHI annouced via press release the Japan debut of the 2nd gen Forester (see http://www.fhi.co.jp/english/news/pr...2/02_02_12.htm).

The 3rd gen Forester was, indeed, announced without the benefit of an auto show press conference (see http://www.fhi.co.jp/english/news/pr...07_12_25e.html). The announcement and the first day of sale in Japan were on the same day, Dec 25, 2007 (Christmas day???).

I'm not sure how one can conclude that "[t]he Forester normally does not have an unveiling at a car show."
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:52 PM   #227
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I'm not sure how one can conclude that "[t]he Forester normally does not have an unveiling at a car show."
Well the most recent did not have one, so why would the next?
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:34 PM   #228
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If there was one, then there wasn't one, that's 50/50, so you couldn't say "normally doesn't have one" (or even "normally does") at that point.
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:36 PM   #229
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Well the most recent did not have one, so why would the next?
The most recent didn't have as much difference to the previous as this will. MPG alone would warrant a nice big reveal for the 2014.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:37 PM   #230
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Well the most recent did not have one, so why would the next?
the current Forester debuted all-new at the 2009 NAIAS. (Detroit)
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:36 PM   #231
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the current Forester debuted all-new at the 2009 NAIAS. (Detroit)
World debut, or No. Am. debut?
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:10 PM   #232
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the current Forester debuted all-new at the 2009 NAIAS. (Detroit)
Subaru did display a US MY2009 3rd gen Forester at the 2008 NAIAS, but only after the 3rd gen was already available for sale and on showroom floors the previous month at Subaru dealers in Japan. So, despite Tom Doll's remarks at the 2008 NAIAS (see http://content.subaru.com/sub/misc/i...200803_insider), few would call that presentation at NAIAS a true world debut of the 3rd gen Forester.

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Old 10-15-2012, 06:04 PM   #233
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:15 PM   #234
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Well the most recent did not have one, so why would the next?
The 3rd gen introduction was an anomaly? Also, I'm fairly certain the 1st gen Forester debuted at the 1997 NAIAS in Detroit, a month before it went on sale in Japan. So that means 3 out of 4 Forester new-gen introductions occurred at a motor show press conference (or 4 out of 4 if you buy SOA's propaganda about the 3rd gen).
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:47 PM   #235
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Those are the same pictures that were already posted previously. Nothing new.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:12 PM   #236
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The 3rd gen introduction was an anomaly? Also, I'm fairly certain the 1st gen Forester debuted at the 1997 NAIAS in Detroit, a month before it went on sale in Japan. So that means 3 out of 4 Forester new-gen introductions occurred at a motor show press conference (or 4 out of 4 if you buy SOA's propaganda about the 3rd gen).
If that's true, they didn't get any coverage online. When the WRX debuts there is a press event with an unveiling, webcast and pictures from the event. I've never seen a Forester event.

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Did it have an unveiling presentation or just a press release?
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:37 PM   #237
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If that's true, they didn't get any coverage online. When the WRX debuts there is a press event with an unveiling, webcast and pictures from the event. I've never seen a Forester event.



Did it have an unveiling presentation or just a press release?
Enthusiasts watch all of that for a WRX (it's a WRX after all). Forester buyers are usually a different audience is what I'm assuming justifies their public response.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:18 PM   #238
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Either way, I am very excited for the 2014 Forester. I have a very good feeling that one may end up in my family's driveway to replace the MDX.

I will miss the hood scoop. I assume that the XT will have a TMIC and similar ducting as the XV Diesel.

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Old 10-15-2012, 11:43 PM   #239
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^Could be true. The spy photos show a bulge in the center of the hood.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:57 PM   #240
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^Could be true. The spy photos show a bulge in the center of the hood.

But if you look closely, that bulge is also on the ones that don't have the XT bumper. Function for one and just looks for the other possibly?
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:54 AM   #241
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But if you look closely, that bulge is also on the ones that don't have the XT bumper. Function for one and just looks for the other possibly?
Cost-saving using the same part for both.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:42 AM   #242
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World debut, or No. Am. debut?
World. bear in mind there's a difference between a "Show Debut" and perhaps an earlier unveiling at a private function. Many makers do this.
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Cost-saving using the same part for both.
That's a viable reason.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:53 PM   #244
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Loafing outside eh? So much for journalism these days. Anyways, to set the story straight, the pics are taken supposedly using some hefty zoom lens. The cars are in the Ohta factory grounds. There's also speculation that Subaru may be behind these pics since we don't typically see this kind of leak with suby.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:57 PM   #245
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The thing that kills it for me is all the chrome trim. Sheesh, my eyes hurt just looking at that. Hopefully that is only for the limited.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:52 PM   #246
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The thing that kills it for me is all the chrome trim. Sheesh, my eyes hurt just looking at that. Hopefully that is only for the limited.
I'm really hoping Subaru offers a 'Sport' grille like the current Forester. Looks WAY better with the body colored surround piece vs. the giant chrome look-into-my-soul grille that's on the '14...
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:07 PM   #247
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Forester is really appearing to be a snore... I wanted it to be a bit more impressive, or at least interesting.

Another appliance to compete for the same appliance buyers that every other (larger) car company is going after, also.

WRX/STI is the last hope, nothing else remains for Subaru AWD lineup to interest an enthusiast.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:02 PM   #248
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It's called "investment". They're investing in the new customers to make new money, then BAM! Hit us with the STI line-up for ALL models!
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Loafing outside eh? So much for journalism these days. Anyways, to set the story straight, the pics are taken supposedly using some hefty zoom lens. The cars are in the Ohta factory grounds. There's also speculation that Subaru may be behind these pics since we don't typically see this kind of leak with suby.

Pretty straight story to me....
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Sorry if this has already been answered but I havent been following this thread. I noticed on some pics there are airdams on the left and right of the front bumper near the fog lights. There are also some pics without them. Is this some kind of trim diferentiation?

I actually kind of like these air dams, makes it look a bit more aggresive.

****Nevermind on the answer, just did some reading****

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