Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Friday March 29, 2024
Home Forums Images WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Miscellaneous > Off-Topic

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.







* As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. 
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
View Poll Results: Should she go to jail?
Yes, lock her up now. 56 68.29%
No, I'm in favor of beating children. 20 24.39%
Other 6 7.32%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-22-2002, 03:25 PM   #1
Snowman
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 3070
Join Date: Nov 2000
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: NC
Vehicle:
2009 Outback XT

Question Video taped mom....should she go to jail?

I think that Beeeoootttccchhh should get the book thrown at her. Once for every time she hit her kid.

Snowman
Bad spellers of the world, UNTIE!!!
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Snowman is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 09-22-2002, 03:31 PM   #2
jaxscuby
Sammo Hung
Moderator
 
Member#: 10613
Join Date: Sep 2001
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: N Fla / S Ga
Vehicle:
2002 USDM WRX
WRB

Default i'd volunteer to return the favor..

let smack that female dog around for a few rounds.
then let see if see vents her anger at her kids...

not that i condone violence against woman, but in this case
i think i could look the other way and slap her around some.
jaxscuby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 04:04 PM   #3
Johnny Knoxville
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 18508
Join Date: May 2002
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: OH-IO
Default

she needs to be hit with a baseball bat.
Johnny Knoxville is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 04:39 PM   #4
SubEd
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 717
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Default

Dumbass beoch keeps saying she's the best damned mom in America. Off to jail with her.
SubEd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 04:45 PM   #5
pittspilot
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 8978
Join Date: Aug 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Near a machine gun.
Vehicle:
2015 BMW M4
Gunmetal Grey.

Default

It is remarkably obvious to me that none of you have children.

I do not for a second condone that womans actions, but I know how she feels.

When my daughter was almost three, I was talking to friend, while I thought she was sitting in her car seat playing. The windows in my car at the time were tinted (Infiniti Q45). Anyway, my child had gotten a hold of a pencil, and had found that popping the leather with the pencil was fun. By the time I noticed, she had perforated both front seats and the center console. And for those that don't know, Q45 leather is nice leather. This was 1991 that I babied. I could have killed her. And I love this child more then life itself. I did not beat her, or even spank her, in fact I did nothing, because I understood that I was not completely in control. Punishment for children should always be administered somewhat unemotionally, I feel.

Whats the point? It is easy to get overwhelmed with children. She was not close fisted hitting the child. She needs help with her temper. this is one instance where I think putting the mother behind bars accomplishes nothing.

You know, once again I remain amazed that the conservative advocates restraint, while the libs want her locked up.

P.S. For the reactionary folks, I do not advocate child abuse. There is nothing right about it. There are parents that are nothing more then sperm or egg doners, and the sooner the children get removed from thier presence the better. I am merely saying that this one incident does not convince me that she is doomed to be a bad parent.
pittspilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 04:52 PM   #6
Paul Sakai
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2513
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Seattle
Vehicle:
2000 RS Coupe
Silverthorne

Default

Anyone have a link to that video. I havent seen it yet
Paul Sakai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 04:57 PM   #7
SubEd
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 717
Join Date: Jan 2000
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Default

I am as conservative as they come, and a parent. She was over the edge. Jail time.
SubEd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 05:51 PM   #8
N/A
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 133
Join Date: Aug 1999
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Burlington, WA
Vehicle:
TBA TBA
TBA

Default

Yeah wait until all of those kids get to be teenagers and then we can talk about how we should be allowed to beat them when they steal things from or vandalize our property for fun. After all its so much better if they wait until the kids are teenagers cause thats a more exceptably age group to beat. You know to make up for the years of no discipline.
N/A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 06:00 PM   #9
mr_disco
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 7760
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Long Beach
Vehicle:
2002 Truly Slow
2006 Audi A3 in the shop

Default

The mom admits that she had no reason to shake and hit her daughter. She beat her because she was mad at the store.

She remained a futive for a week, in hiding, protected by relatives, and only turned herself in because of the national media coverage on it. I can't believe N/A, you would say that she is justified in doing this because the girl might turn out into a juvenile deliqinient, it's this kind of abuse that would be much more certain to lead to that.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/810533.asp?0dm=C21CN
mr_disco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 06:14 PM   #10
paultg
NASIOC Supporter
 
Member#: 437
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Londonderry, NH
Default

Well, to answer the vote: She needs jail time

What I don't understand is this part of things:
Quote:
She remained a futive for a week, in hiding, protected by relatives, and only turned herself in because of the national media coverage on it
Why did she run and hide so fast? This part of the puzzle really bothered me. She looks around in the parking lot to make sure she is not watch before beating her kid. Then she goes on her way. The store video taped this happening and got her license plate. The police had all this info very quickly (I would think), yet she was hiding already? Why? People hide when they know they got caught, or think they are caught? I'm wondering if the store gave the tape to the media before the police? That really bothers me. I just can't understand how she knew to hide so fast. Anyone have any more info on how things went down once the tape was discovered?

Thinking that this little girls life could've been in jeapordy for a week is scary. I would like to know why this mother hid so fast and wasn't just picked up at her next stop once the tape was found and handed to the police (like one would think an arrest would happen).

Paul G.
paultg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 06:17 PM   #11
thechickencow
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16840
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: CO
Vehicle:
17 4Runner

Default

Crap, if I would've read the second option in the poll I would've voted it for funny sake.

I don't think any amount of crying on national television makes up for that amount of beating. A smack on the butt once in a while is fine, but it looked to me like she was punching the kid.

That said, I had many a wooden spoon broken on my misbehaved behind in my younger years, and I've turned out fine. (kinda)

tcc
thechickencow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 06:18 PM   #12
Paul Sakai
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2513
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Seattle
Vehicle:
2000 RS Coupe
Silverthorne

Default

Thanks Mr_ Disco. Definatly send that bitch to jail, disipline is one thing but that was way, way over the line. jaxscuby and Johnny Knoxville Something tells me that that woman is no stranger to a violent beating and that's probably why she is treating her kid that way, it wouldnt teach her any lesson to beat her, though it would seem justified if it happened
Paul Sakai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 06:24 PM   #13
paultg
NASIOC Supporter
 
Member#: 437
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Londonderry, NH
Default

I just watched the video and saw that she moves around alot and didn't have an address.

Paul G.
paultg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 06:27 PM   #14
Bankheist
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 2237
Join Date: Aug 2000
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: DFW
Vehicle:
2000 GC8 STi
2015 Ford Mustang GT

Default

If you can all do one favor for yourself... look up the group known as "Irish Travellers"

They are essentially thieving gypsies based near Ft Worth, TX.

Go do some reading guys
Bankheist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 06:34 PM   #15
Ryan Smith
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 20392
Join Date: Jun 2002
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: shots anyone?
Vehicle:
'09 OBS
Silver

Default

all the hiding, not to mention dying her hair from blonde to dark brown. seems to me like this crazy woman new she did something wrong, and found out it was on tape. so she decided to hide, fearing the worst. she gets my vote for mom of the year!!!

14 years in jail sounds like a sufficient amount of time to me. cause when she gets out, her daughter will be 18 and not have to live by her mothers hand ever again.

ryan

btw- i have 2 daughters, ages 6 and 4. yes they misbehave, but i have never thought about beating the crap out of them like some drunk running his mouth at the bar.
Ryan Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 08:29 PM   #16
N/A
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 133
Join Date: Aug 1999
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Burlington, WA
Vehicle:
TBA TBA
TBA

Default

My comment was made to point out how its ironic the people who say that its wrong to hit kids yet are the same ones to quickly offer somebody advice on beating somebody elses kid when they damage some property. Its OK to discipline your kids but there is a line when discipline becomes abuse. She crossed that point. However some people hear seem to have a double standard.
N/A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 09:49 PM   #17
MstrDC
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 366
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Florida
Vehicle:
2013 Subaru WRX
DGM

Default

N/A, I think most people are just talk. No one is going to "beat down" on some kid just for doing something to their car. No one's going to hit a minor and risk serious jail time and lawsuits for that. It's just all talk, nothing more.

Anyway, she knew what she did was wrong even before she did it. The proof is her looking around to see if anyone is actually around.

Ryan Smith is exactly right. She changed her hair color, sure sign she was hiding her identity.

Spanking a kid is one thing, but she beat that kid. Nothing a little kid does deserves anything like that. Their kids, remember that!
MstrDC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2002, 10:34 PM   #18
Zero-sen
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 8061
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Orange County NY
Vehicle:
2002 Impreza WRX
Rally Blue

Talking

Kids today are nincompoops...you call that a beatin
Zero-sen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2002, 12:35 AM   #19
BlackyFCTurbo2
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 10000
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: San Jose
Default

those who were spanked had it easy... that's not real discpline...
Asian kids are beaten with metersticks, feather dusters and coat hangers when they misbehave.

I think all this crime in American with teeagers is that they do not have a sense of consequences.
BlackyFCTurbo2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2002, 01:33 AM   #20
JenisonWRX
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 6049
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Jenison.Doomhammer
Vehicle:
02 WRX & 99 RS
Black

Default

talking doesnt do **** .... beat em
JenisonWRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2002, 01:46 AM   #21
N/A
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 133
Join Date: Aug 1999
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Burlington, WA
Vehicle:
TBA TBA
TBA

Default

The funniest thing I've seen so far is a mother who let her daughter scream and run around the store pulling things off of the shelves while her mom was paying for her stuff at the check out line with me behind her. The girl came back around the corner of the isle and slipped on some of the stuff she pulled off of the shelves and broke her damn arm. Good lord I laughed so hard. Then told the manager to contact me if the mother made an issue out of it. The mom scoops her daughter up and runs out to her car doing more damage as she runs cause the girls arm is just swinging along with her.
N/A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2002, 02:05 AM   #22
Christoff
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 22758
Join Date: Aug 2002
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by N/A
The funniest thing I've seen so far is a mother who let her daughter scream and run around the store pulling things off of the shelves while her mom was paying for her stuff at the check out line with me behind her. The girl came back around the corner of the isle and slipped on some of the stuff she pulled off of the shelves and broke her damn arm. Good lord I laughed so hard. Then told the manager to contact me if the mother made an issue out of it. The mom scoops her daughter up and runs out to her car doing more damage as she runs cause the girls arm is just swinging along with her.

id pay to see that.....
Christoff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2002, 03:07 AM   #23
Kostamojen
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 2272
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Fire Caves
Vehicle:
2019 Macan 4cyl
1993 Impreza FWD WRX swap

Default

I think her life is screwed permenantly now due to all the media coverage... Jail or not, I'm ok with it.

But, if we were to start sending people to jail for this kind of offence, well over half of our population would end up in jail
Kostamojen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2002, 04:42 AM   #24
RaSER X
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 22310
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Phoenix, AZ .:Hell:.
Vehicle:
03 WRX
WR Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by pittspilot
She was not close fisted hitting the child.
ehhh... were you looking at the same video I was?? It's pretty clear how she was violently beating her child with a CLOSED FIST!! It's not hard to see. That B!tch deserves more than whatever punishment they give her!

I have a 3 year old son who frustrates me almost daily, and I believe in spanking a child if they have done wrong, but hauling off and beating the living crap out of your kid for any reason, is BS and uncalled for!!

My $.02...
RaSER X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2002, 08:24 AM   #25
KC
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 442
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: RI/SE Mass
Vehicle:
17 Imp Spurt
00 S2k

Default

A paddle/belt to the bum WHEN THE KID DOES SOMETHING WRONG and needs to be disciplined? Sure. It's soft tissue that heals really fast. All it does is sting for a little while and did you notice that it's really hard to bruise yer bum? It stays red for a little while.

Closed/open handed shots to any part of the body? Wrong. The kid has no way of defending themselves from broken bones/black eyes, etc... and cannot hit back inflicting pain.

She shoud have just gone home in a stew.

She admitted to beating her kid up because she was mad at the store. Since when is it OK to take your anger out on a child? (That's what a husband/wife is for ) Those parents shouldn't have kids.

Lock her up, throw away the key. It's child abuse. If you think that guys who abuse children have it tough in the lockup, from what I hear it's 5x worse in the female jail.

--kC
KC is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Am i going to go to jail PhilKaiser Off-Topic 45 09-21-2007 02:46 PM
Horatio102 tries to go to jail CosmoTheCat Off-Topic 70 05-23-2006 03:28 PM
More religious judicial happenings: Go to church or go to jail fliz Political Playground - Chaotic Neutral Edition 51 06-01-2005 08:22 PM
Should she stay or should she go now? wyn525i Off-Topic 3 10-30-2004 12:35 PM
How fast can you go w/out going to jail? Whit Texas Impreza Club Forum -- TXIC 28 01-16-2003 01:11 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.

As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.

When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission
Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.