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12-19-2014, 02:33 PM | #5676 | |
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12-19-2014, 02:40 PM | #5677 |
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After being on the market for 5 or 6 years in North America, the Continental ExtremeWinterContact studless winter tire is finally getting an update in 2015. Continental is having a press introduction in January, in Montana, from what I have read elsewhere.
I am guessing the tread design will be identical to the ContiVikingContact 6 tire sold in northern Europe and Russia. |
12-19-2014, 02:52 PM | #5678 |
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Looking for input, especially from Luke@tirerack. I just got my girlfriend some Altimax Arctic OEM size (225/60/16) tires on 03 WRX wheels for her 2000 Outback wagon with 5MT. She's trying them out in South Lake Tahoe for the first time, today. She's going to be living there, where they're going to be great, but frequently she's going to be driving to Santa Rosa, CA (basically tons of dry pavement freeway driving in the Winter) and the tire installers convinced her that driving through Sacramento, even in the Winter, is going to limit the tires to just one or two seasons before they wear out. We saved her stock wheels with A/S tires for the summer, but how many miles can one expect to get out of the Arctics when driven a lot on dry pavement in the Northern California Winter season?
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12-19-2014, 03:20 PM | #5679 |
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Nobody really knows, I suspect so keep us posted.
It might have been better to buy Dunlop 3D in the same size. Krzys |
12-19-2014, 03:24 PM | #5680 | |
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She actually might be getting a job at Kirkwood too, about 30 miles from S. Lake, and they do have a shuttle bus, but she'll be driving in snow and ice, a lot! |
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12-19-2014, 04:35 PM | #5681 | |
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12-19-2014, 04:42 PM | #5682 |
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I have a 2015 WRX and ended up getting the Pirelli Sottozero 3's for about $770.00 shipped not including a $50 mail in rebate... pretty expensive... I wanted the Dunlop 4D's but they were out of stock ... I got 235/45/R17's (standard stock size) I got them installed by Mr. Tire for $60 a little over a month ago and here is my review:
Notes on why I purchased: Other than the comment above (Wanted to get the 4D's because they were cheaper), I will be switching tires for Auto-x and then back to winter... therefore I figured I'd get performance winters over all-season and throw them on from November --> March-ish... I live just outside of Baltimore, MD and commute into the city... Oh and the sh***y roads suck in this car... suspension and tires both lol... That's what you pay for to get the handling though ... PROS: Very grippy, especially in cold weather (less than 40 degrees), has great lateral holding, not too much drop off from the Maxx RT's (stock) I was pleasantly surprised... handled some light slush well... No real snow yet, I will update though... I can't even begin to explain how well they have stuck to the road during spirited driving and some hard cornering... I took the same corner with the stocks a few days before and these have an incredible about of grip below 40 degrees.. traction control came on with the stocks... about 40 degrees then too, Great looking pattern looks like it will do well in snow, slush and some ice CONS: I did notice about a 20% decrease in steering feel "weight of the wheel when turning" immediately... Biggest gripe: They are silent up until 45mph where they get quite loud and I wasn't too happy about that... it's hard to explain but the stock tires were fairly loud at most MPH... these tires have more of a higher pitched drone than the full spectrum drone of the stock tires... best description I can say... It's kind of nuts that they're silent at 44MPH and they are LOUD (compared to 44PMH) at 46MPH... wonder if all of you have similar issues... maybe I just have a low tolerance... the car is loud anyways... I would take a quieter noise throughout the spectrum though... PICTURES: |
12-19-2014, 04:54 PM | #5683 | |
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12-20-2014, 12:08 AM | #5684 | |
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12-20-2014, 03:12 PM | #5685 | |
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Just my opinion. Krzys PS Just looked at CR ratings. General Altimax Arctic got white dot for ice braking (good). Xi2 and Xi3 got excellent. Of course hard to tell what it means as they do not provide raw data. 4D got very good rating but in different test so it may not be directly comparable. Last edited by krzyss; 12-20-2014 at 03:19 PM. |
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12-21-2014, 08:23 AM | #5686 |
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I heard we may get some snow finally around New Year's.
I did go up to Kancamagus Hwy the other night. The top 1/4 mile or so is covered in ice/snow where my Altimax did really well. No ABS kicked in and stuck like glue. There's one parking lot (the smaller of the two, the big one is blocked in with snow) that has packed snow and of course I tried to swing the car around but it wasn't as easy even with traction off. So that was kind of boring Pic link -> http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ostcount=11259 It's very predictable in that sense. I did a quick 0-30mph to hard braking and ABS kicked in slightly but stopped in short distance. Not complaining of course, it was good knowing I wasn't going to be sliding everywhere. What others said about breaking in the tires I do think it's true for the first 50 miles or so. The traction control was coming on the first 25 miles often when accelerating from a corner. It stopped doing that after 100 miles or so. Last edited by wrxnh; 12-21-2014 at 08:28 AM. |
12-21-2014, 09:51 PM | #5687 | |
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nice shot! you have that hi res you can share? it reminds me of home (i'm from Wolfeboro). On topic, here is my mom's XV on 16x7 Sparco Terras with 215/60 Hakka R2s. Pretty badass if you ask me (still way underpowered though ) |
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12-22-2014, 03:35 PM | #5688 |
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^Nice! What PSI are you guys running with the 16's? I double checked and it was around 33 psi all around which I'm assuming is the recommended?
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12-23-2014, 10:23 AM | #5689 |
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good question, i have no idea. i had the wheels shipped to the installer (Northern Tire on Rt 16 in Ossipee). The R2s were purchased through them and they did all the work.
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12-23-2014, 01:57 PM | #5690 | |
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I have had tires come out of the shop at 50 psi... and tires at 20 psi... I always double check. |
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12-23-2014, 02:39 PM | #5691 | |
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But I feel like my 3Ds were only okay on ice, at best, and these should be much better after reading the TR test and surveys for them. FWIW, 3D's get an 8.0 for ice traction while Arctic get an 8.6. Both have over 5 million miles reported, in the survey. Survey: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...sp?type=W&VT=C Test: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=123 |
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12-23-2014, 02:41 PM | #5692 |
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You misread my statement if you think your statement contradicts it. I said closer to an A/S, meaning less like a dedicated snow tire than the Arctics...which is true.
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12-23-2014, 04:16 PM | #5693 |
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Surveys are opinions and are useless for detailed comparison.
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12-23-2014, 05:38 PM | #5694 |
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I find the TR surveys useful for judging things like tire noise, tire wear, and ride comfort. But for attributes like ice/snow traction, wet/dry traction, braking, hydroplaning, etc I ignore the surveys.
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12-23-2014, 06:55 PM | #5695 | |
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Do I check my pressures regularly, yes. My wife's too. |
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12-23-2014, 09:42 PM | #5696 | |
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Surveys are good enough for subjective characteristics but near useless for objective ones. Krzy***347; |
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12-27-2014, 11:02 PM | #5697 |
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Any additional feedback on Blizzak WS-80 performance... looking for some bare road handling info... are they as squirmy as the previous WS-70's...?
My current TOYO GSI-5 's are kind of at the edge, squirm wise... could definitely be better... but work well in the nasty stuff. |
12-27-2014, 11:18 PM | #5698 | |
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We drove her (heavier than my) car on snow and ice yesterday and holy ****, the Arctics, as I said I expected, are a MUCH better tire than the 3Ds when it comes to ice/snow traction. I was VERY impressed. They were worlds better than my car with 3Ds. Argument, over. It's almost like you can trust the TR tests and surveys (to a lesser extent, of course) or something... |
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12-29-2014, 05:16 PM | #5699 |
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The placard inflation sort of goes out the window if you change tire sizes. If the load index is similar to the stock size, then the placard inflation is probably fine to run.
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12-30-2014, 08:48 AM | #5700 |
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Ya I'm going to double check this week before Saturday night's snowstorm that's brewing. Hopefully we do get 6+ inches so I can test her out. Going to be likely a heavy wet snow. Hell yes
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