|
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
10-27-2005, 04:26 PM | #1 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 94339
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: socal
Vehicle:2005 STi |
STi weakpoints....
What is a major disadvantage the STi has in regards to road racing for example or auto-x? Basically what can i drastically improve to help me do better in road racing/auto-x?
So far I'm blown away by how it handles, I'm very satisfied with the power as well. I thought about weight reduction but I don't want to strip out any luxuries, being my first new car and all. I'm kind of reluctant to do any power upgrades because the car is fast as it is. help a newb out
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
|
10-27-2005, 04:33 PM | #2 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 66148
Join Date: Jul 2004
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Somerville
Vehicle:05 STI |
The driver is always the first place to start.
After that figure out which classes you want to run - these will deceide your mods. I'd begin with getting to grips with the car before touching it - learn to drive the base car, and you'll figure out the weak areas.............If you have to ask, you're probably not driving it hard enough yet |
10-27-2005, 04:51 PM | #3 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 99348
Join Date: Oct 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: Atlanta
Vehicle:If I could only get you oceanside. |
^^ everything he said. fix the nut behind the wheel first. you will notice weak areas once you have driven the car to its limit. mod it accordingly.
|
10-27-2005, 05:12 PM | #4 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 80663
Join Date: Jan 2005
Chapter/Region:
SWIC
Location: Glendale, AZ
Vehicle:2005 STi |
Driver is the biggest thing...that's where I need to improve. Mechanically, I've got the car in a place I like for the most part. A simple way to improve the handling is a sway bar kit and a rear strut bar. Just make sure the rear bar exerts a little more force than the front bar. Driving the car stock for a while to learn it is not a bad idea...it gives a good base to know if you have actually improved anything.
I went all out from the get-go, but that's more akin to my personality and I probably would have been better off from a performance stand-point modding in slow stages. Or better yet, not modding and going to a sweet driving school. |
10-27-2005, 05:13 PM | #5 |
RIP 3/18/1965 to 1/10/2008
Scooby Specialist Member#: 91500
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Schaumburg/Chicago
Vehicle:hmmm sr-30+640cc=? I has teh Endless BBK. |
I hear solid advice
wow, I do believe I have seen WISDOM in this thread, nice. I didn't begin adding to my 05 wagon until I wanted to go faster, now with a bit of experience, I actually KNOW what I want to do next...
|
10-27-2005, 05:20 PM | #6 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 90215
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Where am I not?
|
Better seat and harness, as I am a small guy I wiggle around in the stock seat and belt when turning. Springs (think JDM pinks, Prodrive) and swaybars will help with the overdampened struts and body roll. If you want to keep power upgrades to a minimum, an EMS like the COBB AP or TXS UTEC will help, also a downpipe + catback (plus you get to hear the sexy boxer growl). Also lighter wheels and grippier tires. Just a few simple upgrades that can help. Those are probably the mods I am going to get (and hopefully stop at). Anyone else have any ideas?
|
10-27-2005, 05:22 PM | #7 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70337
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Anaslime Hills
Vehicle:2005 STi What's that on your hood? |
I agree with what everyone has been saying. I did an auto-x stock first then did swaybars. They made a huge difference.
As far as weekpoints, I honestly don't know of any. The only thing to keep in mind is the advantages and disadvantages of AWD. On smaller tracks and auto-x's it is beneficial for handling and acceleration. On a larger track the weight and drag created by the AWD may hinder the car on high-speed parts of the track. |
10-27-2005, 05:23 PM | #8 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 96738
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Nasty Natti
Vehicle:96 Talon Blue |
I would drive it hard first as mentioned then you will find by experiance what the weak points are... You may find that the handling is fine but the brakes need some work to fit your driving style, or perhaps you would prefer a little more tail happy car, just bolting on any suspension package may not give oyu that!
Patience is your best mod IMO! |
10-27-2005, 05:37 PM | #9 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 94339
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: socal
Vehicle:2005 STi |
awesome.
thanks for the advice. i'm definetly working on my driving, still getting used to the car. i can drive the car very comfortably now, but coming out of a corner is kind of strange with this car. i'm not used to this much grip, it seems unstable almost with the way i drive it. definetly has a hint of understeer when i come out of a corner. i came from the mr2 world so i'm used to having the rear slide out more. can DCCD necessarily be an advantage? i've read the auto setting is optimal for most driving conditions. |
10-27-2005, 06:03 PM | #10 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70337
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Anaslime Hills
Vehicle:2005 STi What's that on your hood? |
Setting the DCCD more to the rear may create more of a loose condition that you are used to in your MR2, but it depends more on your driving style. Swaybars will counteract the push just as easily and the car will handle better.
On a side note I have a friend that was looking for a car in the 90's (Mitsu GSX, MR2, RX7) His dad always told us the MR2 was "tailhappy" so much so that we joke about cars being "tailhappy" to this day. My buddy ended up getting an MR2 turbo and crashed it on a twisty road. he said the rear end got away from him. I guess his dad was right. |
10-27-2005, 06:31 PM | #11 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 94339
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: socal
Vehicle:2005 STi |
Quote:
anyway you're kind of right when you say they're "tailhappy", i just think it's blown out of proportion. people make it sound like it's death on 4 wheels, it just takes a little more getting used to is all . when you harness the MR, the reward is well worth the time put in. why the hell did i buy an STi again? |
|
10-27-2005, 08:36 PM | #12 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 51452
Join Date: Dec 2003
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Cincinnati
Vehicle:2004 Subaru WRX STi 1992 Mazda Miata |
Quote:
flamesuiton. |
|
10-27-2005, 09:19 PM | #13 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 83494
Join Date: Mar 2005
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Westminster, CO
Vehicle:2004 WRX Wagon Red |
This might not apply to you since you don't plan on tracking your car, but I was talking to a someone with an STI and he said after a few laps, his brakes were done. He said they started turning into mush and that made it harder to drive fast. Other than that, he said the car handled great in stock trim.
|
10-27-2005, 10:41 PM | #14 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 58504
Join Date: Mar 2004
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: Ready to try OpenECU.org!!!
Vehicle:2004 STi Aspen White / Silver |
Quote:
Yikes....I'd hate to even think how insane stickier tires would be! -Michael |
|
10-27-2005, 10:49 PM | #15 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 83494
Join Date: Mar 2005
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Westminster, CO
Vehicle:2004 WRX Wagon Red |
Oh, yea there are a lot of sticker tires. Look at tirerack and do a comparison between tires.
|
10-28-2005, 02:20 AM | #16 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 94339
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: socal
Vehicle:2005 STi |
Quote:
that's beyond what i had in mind to improve the car overall...do you know the specifics when he said they were 'done'? were the pads gone? or the rotors? calipers? i see a couple sti's upgrading to bigger lighter multi-piece rotors, i guess the stock equipment isn't up to par for road racing? |
|
10-28-2005, 07:54 AM | #17 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 23676
Join Date: Aug 2002
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: de_dust and Orgrimar
Vehicle:. |
Quote:
I can do things in the STI now, that no way in hell could I do 4 months ago. All because I, as you say, "am getting used to the car". Basically expect the car to continue suprising you on an almost daily basis with the things it can do. |
|
10-28-2005, 02:03 PM | #18 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 83494
Join Date: Mar 2005
Chapter/Region:
RMIC
Location: Westminster, CO
Vehicle:2004 WRX Wagon Red |
I mean that there was bad brake fade
|
10-28-2005, 02:24 PM | #19 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70337
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Anaslime Hills
Vehicle:2005 STi What's that on your hood? |
Quote:
|
|
10-28-2005, 03:11 PM | #20 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 82247
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NE Ohio
Vehicle:2005 Saab 9.2x Aero satin grey |
Even GOOD brake fluid that has been in there for more than a year or so, isn't really that good any more.
|
10-28-2005, 03:23 PM | #21 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70337
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Anaslime Hills
Vehicle:2005 STi What's that on your hood? |
Quote:
|
|
10-28-2005, 04:10 PM | #22 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 44501
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Yeah, well, you know
Vehicle:that 's, like, your alternate facts, man. |
Not quite. The fluid only absorbs moisture that makes it into the system. If the fluid stops absorbing, moisture can still enter the system.. it just pools up. If anything, high performance fluid needs to be changed out much more regularly to keep corrosion from occuring within the brake system.
|
10-28-2005, 07:20 PM | #23 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70337
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Anaslime Hills
Vehicle:2005 STi What's that on your hood? |
I was told something entirely different but I see your point. I plan on changing mine regularly so it's not an issue for me.
|
10-28-2005, 08:44 PM | #24 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 69621
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: CLC
Vehicle:05 mines wrx RIP still hatin ROTAS |
better tires make a huge differnce, but get to konw your car and you will find its weaknesses
|
10-28-2005, 10:16 PM | #25 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 57113
Join Date: Mar 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Annapolis, MD
Vehicle:2009 Dodge Ram Blue |
Quote:
|
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
FS : OH: 04' STI ECU and 04' STI DCCD Controller | pannell77 | Engine/Power/Exhaust | 18 | 07-28-2010 07:14 AM |
FS : OH: 04' STI ECU & 04' STI DCCD Controller | pannell77 | Interior/Dressup/Audio & Security | 14 | 07-28-2010 07:14 AM |
FS : 2005 OEM STi struts w/ springs & 2006 OEM STi struts w/ springs | Chris G. | MAIC Private Classifieds | 13 | 06-24-2010 03:38 PM |
WRX performamce advantage = weakpoint? | P()()RB@Y | General Community | 37 | 01-18-2007 07:50 PM |
V4 sti weakpoints? | kheff46 | Subaru Conversions | 7 | 03-26-2006 10:14 AM |