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Old 01-21-2013, 06:58 PM   #51
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It's just not impressive. It's fast alright, but not original nor has the craftsmanship and attention to detail that match The F1,Veyron, Pagani, Koenigsegg.

Besides the power, I don't think it's even credible compared to 458, 911, Aventador, ZR1, LFA.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:06 PM   #52
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Modified cars are rarely worth more than their stock counterparts. But in the case of the Viper, generally mods keep a car over 10k miles on par, if not, slightly more valuable than stock. In the case of Hennessey, people in the "know" will not touch one of the cars because there is a good chance that what's inside the engine isn't as good as a stock car. Hennessey's name is tainted.

I think Ford has done great things in recent years. But Ford has proven that they are making a great product now, it's very easy to see. Hennessey on the other hand is saying that they are better, but proof is in the pudding; look at the GTR examples noted above, I'm not seeing a change in the quality department. Another issue for Hennessey is their competitors make a better quality product in all aspects.

I don't have $1m to drop on a car. But I could send my Murcielago to Underground and have it produce more than 1500hp and not look like an Elise or worry about what parts are or are not on my car. There is nothing exclusive about a modified Lotus body on a tube chassis with an LSx.
and you have officially slammed that guy sick Murcielago btw
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:15 PM   #53
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There is nothing exclusive about a modified Lotus body on a tube chassis with an LSx.
Maybe you're not up on the definition of the word exclusive, but the VGT is certainly more exclusive than any modern production Lambo will ever be.

Personally, while it's not my thing, and it's too expensive, it's an impressive piece of engineering work out of a small shop.

The problem with the car is, when you take the cockpit, interior, some body panels, etc. from a donor (fine by me), that should be done to keep the costs down.

For their asking price, it should all be unique, nose to tail. The car itself though, I don't think anyone can argue with its potential.

And, no offense, I think it looks less douchy than a Lambo, and it's not something you see regularly, as you might a Murci in certain towns.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:57 PM   #54
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It's just not impressive. It's fast alright, but not original nor has the craftsmanship and attention to detail that match The F1,Veyron, Pagani, Koenigsegg.

Besides the power, I don't think it's even credible compared to 458, 911, Aventador, ZR1, LFA.
Who said it was trying to be? They only ever compare them in speed, not craftsmanship.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:13 PM   #55
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Who said it was trying to be? They only ever compare them in speed, not craftsmanship.
For a couple of million dollar price tag, they better have those qualities.

What are all that money paying for. Because speed isn't that expensive, nor exclusivity.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:27 PM   #56
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If you just wanted to go fast straight build yourself a drag car and you will be able to do 9 second 1/4 mile runs all day long and you can pocket the extra 950,000 dollars.
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If you just wanted to go fast straight build yourself a drag car and you will be able to do 9 second 1/4 mile runs all day long and you can pocket the extra 950,000 dollars.
That is terribly practical...at least you can take the Venom down the street and threaten the lives of every single bystander
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That is terribly practical...at least you can take the Venom down the street and threaten the lives of every single bystander
I think you've some up Hennessey's business moto in one post.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:40 AM   #59
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Maybe you're not up on the definition of the word exclusive, but the VGT is certainly more exclusive than any modern production Lambo will ever be.

Personally, while it's not my thing, and it's too expensive, it's an impressive piece of engineering work out of a small shop.

The problem with the car is, when you take the cockpit, interior, some body panels, etc. from a donor (fine by me), that should be done to keep the costs down.

For their asking price, it should all be unique, nose to tail. The car itself though, I don't think anyone can argue with its potential.

And, no offense, I think it looks less douchy than a Lambo, and it's not something you see regularly, as you might a Murci in certain towns.
It's exclusive because very few people are willing to pay the asking price. . . and Lambo has released a few cars over the past years that are far more exclusive.

It is an impressive car, no doubt. I would definitely not turn down the opportunity to drive one. However, if I was offerred one for $500k (or even $300k), I would decline. I would rather have a TT Lambo or FGT TT to handle 1000+hp.No offense to Hennessey but I highly doubt his chassis engineering is anywhere near the level of design as any other high powered car over $400k.

I poke fun at the Louts references (I really like Elise/Exige); but for a car built for people with an "unlimited budget". . . I agree with you, it probably shouldn't have been designed to look identical to a car available used for $25k. However, I have no clue how functional that bodywork is to efficiently cut through the air, but I'm sure there's some function > form going on, and I can appreciate that, even if it does look like an Exige limo.

Based on production numbers, it's highly more likely to see a Murci/LP640/SV than a VGT. I'm not really sure what makes a car look douchy, but there are many stereotypes associated with cars, and from certain Lambo owners I understand your reference.
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Well I can gold plate a pile of elephant **** and charge 2.7 million for it and it would be exclusive as well! HAHA

I agree wtih what you said White Out. Chopping up an existing car is not an elegant form of chassis engieering. I would simply take a 458 over any of the cars mentioned on this thread so far,

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well, or a Singer 911.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:50 AM   #61
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Well I can gold plate a pile of elephant **** and charge 2.7 million for it and it would be exclusive as well! HAHA

I agree wtih what you said White Out. Chopping up an existing car is not an elegant form of chassis engieering. I would simply take a 458 over any of the cars mentioned on this thread so far,

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well, or a Singer 911.
I agree.

That being said, I don't exactly find it horrible to take an existing cockpit and make the vehicle your own. Especially considering teh extensive work done in the front and rear. However, jsut about the only justification I see for taht is cost savings...whcih we don't see.
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For that much money, I'd rather have a street legal Indycar.
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Or a Zonda R and a Agera R, then have enough left over to cover incidentals like tires, engines, front lips, soiled seats, etc.
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... soiled seats...
Love it.
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I think White out has probably been there before.
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I like the part where he takes his hand off the wheel to lift his visor back up while doing 263 mph.



Uh.. maybe your visor is trying to tell you something..
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I like the part where he takes his hand off the wheel to lift his visor back up while doing 263 mph.



Uh.. maybe your visor is trying to tell you something..

Impressive the car is stable enough at that speed that he felt comfortable in doing that.
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****, even I'll admit that's quite a feat. Supposedly there was more in the motor but they ran out of runway.


Still a glorified kit-car that'll get you Hennescrewed.

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I would still never buy one. But it's good to see that it's knocking at Veyron SS's door.

However, all Bugatti has to do is shut off the limiter on the SS and the Venom is knocked off its podium.
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However, all Bugatti has to do is shut off the limiter on the SS and the Venom is knocked off its podium.
How so? The Venom GT2 is lighter and has more hp than the Bugatti SS.
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Bugatti SS has already gone 268mph.
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Bugatti SS has already gone 268mph.
And you believe that was with the limiter still in place?
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Limiter is set at 257.9mph. Hence Hennessey is claiming "fastest production vehicle you can buy".
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This did 265mph in 2 miles. It took the Veyron 4 miles to do it. Not to mention the driver actually missed a gear and still did 265mph. I'm sure without the missed gear and double the runway it might, possibly, just maybe click off another 4mph. In all honesty it's gonna smash the speed record. It will be lacking everywhere else but still impressive IMO.
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