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03-08-2009, 12:34 PM | #1 | |
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03-08-2009, 02:16 PM | #2 |
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Consumer Reports - biggest killer of GM over the course of the last 12 years.
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03-08-2009, 02:56 PM | #3 |
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LOL - I do my car research on Edmunds. If I want to buy a washing machine I go to Consumer Reports. 'nuff said
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03-08-2009, 03:30 PM | #4 |
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If I want to know reliability, I use consumers reports.
If I want to know which car model is bestest, I test them myself |
03-08-2009, 04:15 PM | #5 |
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03-08-2009, 04:23 PM | #6 | |
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People reading consumer reports steered them away from GM and over to Toyota. It is MY OPINION that Consumer Reports over exaggerated the problems with GM's reliability compared to Toyota. I believe most of what people perceive about GM is on the pages of Consumer Reports...which I dont think is too accurate. I guess it's the conservative in me, that hates a magazine giving me my information, I would much rather do the research for myself. Again my opinion, so instead of saying "sorry, but no" say ; "I have to disagree with your OPINION". kthnx. |
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03-08-2009, 04:26 PM | #7 | |
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03-08-2009, 06:44 PM | #8 | |
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03-08-2009, 07:20 PM | #9 |
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Sure, you are welcome to survey 2 million car owners every year all by yourself, if that's the only way you can trust such surveys.
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03-08-2009, 07:20 PM | #10 |
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03-08-2009, 07:42 PM | #11 | |
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but if the only way I can find out if I will like a vehicle is to survey a few million people, then I guess I could try that too... |
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03-08-2009, 08:02 PM | #12 | |
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As for them publishing which cars they think are the best, how is that different from any of comparos from regular car magazines? You may not agree with their taste, which is focused on general consumers rather than car enthusiasts, but I'm sure you read some car magazines. |
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03-08-2009, 08:09 PM | #13 | |
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I have worked in a GM garage, a Subaru garage, and a Honda garage...and I can say that 7-8/10 when a vehicle has a major mechanical problem it is due to owner neglect. In short, if you know how to take car of your vehicle, it will take care of you. As far as the comparo's go, I pretty much hate all magazine comparo's, however they are a good source of entertainment. So you can see my problem with CR, Car and Driver, Edmunds' etc... Last edited by AllForSRT; 03-08-2009 at 08:17 PM. |
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03-08-2009, 08:25 PM | #14 | |
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In any case, you hate all comparos, so at least you are consistent. I do read them, partly because I cannot realistically drive all those cars. But when I'm out shopping for a car, of course I base my judgement on test drives when applicable. |
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03-08-2009, 08:27 PM | #15 | |
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03-08-2009, 08:37 PM | #16 |
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03-08-2009, 09:51 PM | #17 |
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03-08-2009, 10:35 PM | #18 |
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meh, i dont really listen to CR... It seems like the only people who respond to those surveys know nothing about cars
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03-08-2009, 11:42 PM | #19 |
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I don't use CR for anything at all any more, washers or cars either one. I see too much inconsistency in their reviews that goes completely unexplained, so I have my doubts about the accuracy of their surveys.
When I'm looking at a potential new car, I go to the forums for that car and see what people bitch and complain about. I knew about the clunking struts on the STI well before I opted to buy one . CR didn't say anything about that... |
03-09-2009, 02:26 AM | #20 |
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When the Mercury Sable was recommended by CR, but the Ford Taurus was not, I knew there was something dead wrong about their testing methods. They're the same freaking car! If you don't recommend one, why the hell would you recommend the other?
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03-09-2009, 07:59 AM | #21 |
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03-09-2009, 09:13 AM | #22 |
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A lot of the problems I've had with various cars, whether they were Japanese or Domestic, were generally reflected in CR's reliability surveys. And known common problems, based on what the internet community reports, has as well. I don't think you should go strictly by CR's surveys as your only source for reliability info. Going to the enthusiast site of the car in question also gives you more detailed info about common problems. There's a lot you can learn here at Nasioc about what are common problems on Subarus. The problem with CR's reliability reports is that they don't take into consideration the severity of the problem. So, one dude that has a problem with one chip in his paint would be given the same weight as a person with large patches of paint peeling off his hood in that category. But, CR is good for getting a general idea of the overall reliability of a particular vehicle.
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