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11-20-2013, 01:25 PM | #526 | |
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The .64AR is going to limit your top end along with your heads and possibly your cams. The turbine wheels of the EFR's are unique but the rest of the components of them are not that special. I think I would try to fit a PTE turbo on one of Chris's low mounts if they can be made to fit.
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11-20-2013, 02:39 PM | #527 | |
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11-20-2013, 05:01 PM | #528 |
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No I added 6 discs to it, 18 discs to open it up, less back pressure. It works perfectly, my boost holds dead flat on e85 at. 28-29psi from 4k to redline at 8k! If you know what sound to look for you can hear a subtle woosh from in the cabin but it sounds good! Ask Layvon he's been in it as has Junior. On the outside it's a frickin megaphone with the KBHH , custom Cobb exhaust and the EWG ST!
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12-06-2013, 01:16 PM | #529 | |||
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No accommodations for EFRs. At least not from us anytime soon. We choosing a turbo we looked at many things. Because of the location, size is a very important and restricting factor. Especially when I'm trying to keep it as bolt-on, no fabrication friendly, as possible. If you're game for cutting stuff a lot of other options open up. Take a peek at Crystal_Imprezav's setup and you'll see home much more space you get when you remove the lower sub-frame support and cut stuff. The other consideration was long term historical data. Due to the EFR's being in their infancy there is next to no data for Subarus and even less regarding long term reliability. So far true. Quote:
I'd look at Precision Turbos, if anyone can get me prints or better yet some decent CAD models. I've tried on a couple occasions to get information from them and my requests go unanswered. |
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12-06-2013, 01:25 PM | #530 |
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In the mean time we're putting our ducks in a row for a small beta batch. This just takes time.
Parts are rolling in for the engine and I've decided to get some mild cams and maybe even an auxiliary fuel cell for the truck to run race fuel, maybe. Working on a new turbo drain sump as well. Still on the fence with TS vs SS. If I can swing it with Jr we'll test the car with both setups, which will make for a long day. We'll see. |
12-06-2013, 01:47 PM | #531 | ||
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Chris, Here's a link to the PTE catalog with Comp housing drawings on my dropbox and a link to the 2 tech pages on their site that have all the tech drawings of the turbine housings. I also have a guy inside that I've been working with so I'll send you and email and copy him on it to connect you two. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...%20Catalog.pdf http://www.precisionturbo.net/tech/t...bochargers/3-4 Quote:
I'm sending you an email today about my winter project but if you consider me for a beta version then I would hold off on these plans that I have. |
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12-09-2013, 09:13 AM | #532 |
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Thanks for the links. I need more detailed information though. There are no external dimensions on the volutes on those prints. Thanks for the PTE contact, we'll see if I get any reply.
I will be replying to your e-mail soon too |
12-09-2013, 12:16 PM | #533 | |
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I'll look for your reply! Last edited by manitou; 12-09-2013 at 12:28 PM. |
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12-09-2013, 03:32 PM | #534 |
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The BB PTE turbos are slightly longer than Garrett turbos.
BTW I didn't have to cut anything on my kit nor remove the sub-brace. I've had that stuff off the car for weight savings. |
12-09-2013, 09:36 PM | #535 |
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With your routing I don't see how you could put that subframe support back on there At the least the fender liner was cut-up. Regardless, you're right. For your application it doesn't warrant having those intact.
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12-10-2013, 11:36 AM | #536 |
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12-10-2013, 12:54 PM | #537 |
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Tough to see in the pic (and I even tried to brighten it), but I don't know if it counts if the exhaust tubing is ON the sub-frame support
Neither has, or could have, intact fender liners or a real world air cleaner. For your application (track drag, nice weather, etc.) I'm sure it's just fine. BTW, that black car looks like it has center section cooties |
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the first pic has fender liners...no?
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12-10-2013, 01:41 PM | #540 |
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I tried to install one of these kits that was built on an 04 into an 06 and there were a lot of issues with the pipes hitting the actual frame of the car. I haven't compared the frame between the 04-05 and 06-07, but I'm guessing there is a difference as his kit did fit fur ****.
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12-10-2013, 05:15 PM | #542 |
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Chris, Were you able to look over the drawings that Grant sent us? I've got some up pipe ideas for your headers and couple of these turbos.
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12-10-2013, 06:27 PM | #543 |
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The prints were not detailed enough, they just provide basic info (flanges, CL distance, etc.). I'm going back and forth with the DoE right now, so I should be getting my hands on some models soon Thanks again for the contact!
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12-10-2013, 06:54 PM | #544 |
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No worries! From what I know and can see the PTE turbos and v-band housings should be able to fit in the space with your low mount kit. I have a few questions for you on the LM.
Keep me posted on the developments with PTE. I'll send you more info on my plans when I can take a few more measurements. |
12-10-2013, 08:20 PM | #545 |
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if you run a dump you don't need to cut anything that's smaller then a 42r. if you use a large frame turbo like a 42r ( a different header length )then you need to notch the frame for the compressor cover like in the first pic (look close). in the second pic it shows a full exhaust set up. to run that you need to cut off the sub frame mount that's on the frame. i usually don't build them for people unless i have the car to fit it on but jeff said he can have it adjusted if its off slightly. fitment on a normal dump setup should be straight forward and clear every thing except for clearing out your bumper in that corner. i have yet to have anyone with a foglight setup that i built have fitment problem and let me know about them. if i did i would fix them free of charge.
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12-10-2013, 08:43 PM | #546 |
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Truth to that, I really thought it was going to be 10x harder to install the kit but with the flexes in there it really made install a breeze. Fobs the man being able to do all that on a jig, eyeball clearances for a pan he didn't have, and get fitment spot on. The kit also lets you get creative with exhaust and IC options. Only small downside I can think of is rain and figuring our a clean filter look, but because racecar those are not worries for me.
I like Chris' setup too mostly because of the custom awesome fmic and radiator that come with it. Once I figure out how to use my damn Tig welder, I am going to try and do a similar kit to play around with. One last suggestion for Chris is to think about a scavenge tank especially with the PTE turbos. They are very finiky with oil pressure and return... |
12-10-2013, 08:49 PM | #547 | |
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I saw the tank and liked it to. Is that so that the scavenge pump doesn't cause cavitation?
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12-11-2013, 08:33 AM | #549 |
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I've got a (mini) sump on there. It works really well actually. I've got a couple options in the works for it as well, that are neat-o
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You would think it would spool up faster being directly on the manifold , not a good choice for a turbo hotside lol . What size is the hotside? All that work for the same outcome of any other fmic with a built motor , lol
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