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03-11-2013, 10:15 PM | #1201 |
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Why so? For the most part, you'd remove the rear body work, unbolt it, and lift it out.
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03-14-2013, 02:47 PM | #1202 |
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So, has anyone on here placed an order for a kit? Or anyone seriously decided to purchase one when they are available?
I'm curious to see how popular these really are going to be within the Subaru community. |
03-14-2013, 03:02 PM | #1203 |
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03-14-2013, 08:34 PM | #1204 |
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I know I've had built engine requests from a few guys that have ordered kits. The requests vary from spec race engine to 'OMG I'm going to try to kill myself' hahaha
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03-16-2013, 12:22 AM | #1205 | |
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Lady ran a red, totaled my car, bought it back, using the rest of the insurance money to buy the kit and any other extras it needs. I think there's 120 deposits placed. 2 other guys on here have engine build threads for their 818's. |
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03-19-2013, 09:53 PM | #1206 | |
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These things will be scary fast with a basic Stage 2 STi engine in them... like power to weight equivalent to 500+ HP STis. E85 and 60 lb/min turbos? Definite kill myself territory. The amount of torque a built 2.5L produces down low is also going to be quite a handful for a RWD car this light, but I suppose that will make the 3.7 final drive 5MTs that are so bad for motorsports in a WRX a good match for the 818. |
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03-19-2013, 11:27 PM | #1207 |
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03-20-2013, 05:40 AM | #1208 |
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03-20-2013, 11:25 AM | #1209 | |
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03-20-2013, 06:12 PM | #1210 |
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There are quite a few guys on the ffr forum who talk about 400 whp. I think most of them are all talk and most of them have also never driven a lightweight car from what i can tell.
Im staying stock turbo for now. Last made 243whp and 351wtq in an awd setup. |
03-20-2013, 09:37 PM | #1211 |
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03-21-2013, 09:11 AM | #1212 | ||
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If you choose to bump the nominal torque value to something more like that of a race engine (120-140 Nm/L) things change drastically but note that this IS running to a max Mean Piston Speed of 25 m/s and would require a fully engineered and developed package to get these kinds of efficiencis***8230;so I'll use 120 Nm/L to play it more realistic, after all, the EJ ports suck and we have less than ideal layout conditions for manifold design. You're looking at a max engine speed of 10,000 RPM with 305 kW (409 bhp) and 292 Nm (215 lb/ft)....so unless you REALLY want to spend the coin of building an NA engine for this power, go with a VF39 and EJ205 ...coming from an engine builder Although I still think a conservative 9k RPM redline on a 2.34 destroked engine and a low boost (1 atm) .63 AR turbine 60 lb/min'ish turbo (50mm EWG) would be a blast. Net about a 400whp with a broad tq curve and keep great transient response. Of course you could dial it back or turn the wick up depending on your pucker factor -Micah Last edited by 3MI Racing; 03-21-2013 at 09:22 AM. |
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03-21-2013, 09:14 AM | #1213 | |
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The number of people that start new threads of "why can't we use STI parts" "where's the coupe?" and "I need 600hp" is a bit tiring after awhile. |
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03-21-2013, 09:24 AM | #1214 |
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I want to build one and use a SOHC RS engine. I think this would be plenty for a great daily driver/ autocross car. Not to mention a lot easier on components.
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03-21-2013, 02:41 PM | #1215 | |
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03-22-2013, 10:27 AM | #1216 |
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can the BRZ spin to 200whp? That's going to be your best bet for looking at mods to make n/a power.
otherwise grab an ej207 oil pump and keep upping the revs on whichever motor you choose and see where the valvetrain becomes limited. light crank light flywheel electric power steering port intake manifold & throttle body header tune you could always add an n2o 50 shot |
03-22-2013, 11:19 AM | #1217 | |
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03-22-2013, 12:40 PM | #1218 | |
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03-22-2013, 12:41 PM | #1219 | ||||
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I know guys that had mild Cobb cams in their otherwise stock engine 2.5RS, with lightened pulleys, lightened flywheels, full exhaust and intake and were making stock WRX (EJ205) numbers on the same dyno. So I'd say 160whp area is doable on a mostly stock EJ251. Quote:
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That engine was just a temp set up while they acquired licensing as running NA is mandatory in that series. I have several guys ask me about similar builds. There is a LOT left in that engine. Quote:
My bigger concern in going FA20 is the lack of standalones and/or merging of harnesses with the ability to retain reflashing...be careful what you trim on a CANbus system (or even ROM). |
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03-22-2013, 01:00 PM | #1220 |
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03-22-2013, 05:17 PM | #1221 | |
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Now I'm jumping between an EZ30R and a strung up 2.34l. I know there will be people fitting an EZ engine to an 818 so I can see what problems they face and figure it out then. I don't see myself getting an 818 for another 2 years anyway so that's plenty of time for people to experiment as well as for FFR to get a coupe made. |
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03-23-2013, 01:18 PM | #1222 |
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^ yeah, i'm in the same boat. waiting for the coupe to be made. i'm not sold on the convertible.
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04-05-2013, 07:15 PM | #1223 |
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im on the order list, not sure what im gonna do for the motor yet i bought a crashed but running 06 wrx for 3500 ended up having to rebuild the heads anyway tossing the idea around of a destroked motor or running an ej22t my kit isnt scheduled until january so i got some time to think it over gonna be a blast though!
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04-05-2013, 09:05 PM | #1224 |
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Official. Production starts in June.
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04-08-2013, 02:04 PM | #1225 |
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Damn those things are ugly as sin, eek
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