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03-12-2013, 11:19 AM | #301 |
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I actually like TQ/L since it is a function of force...not power which needs a time component.
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03-12-2013, 11:26 AM | #302 |
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some ls engines make over 600 hp per cam. Those lazy honda engineers take 2 times as many cams for less than half the HP.
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03-12-2013, 11:28 AM | #303 |
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HP/cup holder?
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03-12-2013, 11:32 AM | #304 |
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03-12-2013, 11:45 AM | #305 |
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03-12-2013, 11:53 AM | #306 |
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Given your user name, this discussion is appropriate .
However with non zero HP divided by zero, shouldent that be infinite or tend towards infinity of something? zero hp/ zero cup holders would be indeterminant or undefined. |
03-12-2013, 12:15 PM | #307 | |
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As the denominator of a fraction approaches zero, the value of the fraction approaches infinity. The value of the numerator is unimportant, as long as it isn't zero. If the denominator is zero, then the function is undefined, except in a few specific types of mathematics where that particular fraction is defined. Also, so as to not be too off topic, the newer mustangs are incredible cars at an incredible bargain price. |
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03-12-2013, 12:21 PM | #308 |
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03-12-2013, 01:37 PM | #309 | |
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03-12-2013, 03:15 PM | #310 |
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It's a good move by Ford not to include DI yet to the 5.0. Currently it's a great engine without much competition. The point is they can't just shoot out all their trump cards at once. If they did- they would have such a hard time making further improvements later on. Also it gives them more time to make the DI even better/cheaper.
I can only imagine how much better the v6 and 5.0 are going to be when they do get DI. The v6 might even get close to 40mpg with more then 300hp or right at 40mpg at 300hp. That is stupid good. |
03-12-2013, 04:31 PM | #311 |
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I know that DI helps, but that's a HUGE jump in highway mpg that you're suggesting.
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03-12-2013, 04:40 PM | #312 |
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Take into consideration the lighter weight of the new mustang and 15% higher milage. 15% of 30 is 4.5, so just DI alone brings it close to 35, lighter weight may bring it to 37. That is close to 40. If they detuned it for the added 15% power to keep it at 300hp after DI, that's very very close to 40.
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03-12-2013, 04:45 PM | #313 |
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I think even 35 would be quite the achievment, and would be shocked if rated any higher
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03-12-2013, 04:59 PM | #314 | |
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Just look at the Mazda 3 after they introduced the Skyactiv motor. It introduced a newer, more efficient motor with DI paired with a brand new 6-speed transmission (as I believe the previous automatic was only a 5-speed), and that application had a jump from 36 mpg to 39-40 mpg. You're talking about a Mustang jumping a full 10 mpg. |
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03-12-2013, 05:36 PM | #315 | |
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I shouldn't saying it will hit 40mpg- only that it can come close if they did DI, de-tuned it back to 300 and had alot of weight reduction. Hell even if they didn't reduce the weight and kept the added HP from DI- that is at least 4mpg right there. That's not bad at all. |
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03-12-2013, 05:42 PM | #316 |
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I don't see them netting more than 2mpg from DI.
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03-12-2013, 06:49 PM | #317 | |
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The V6 is 3500. The GT is 3600.
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03-12-2013, 06:58 PM | #318 | ||
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I get it -- less weight will create less work for the car to move, and will likely result in better gas mileage. But you don't know the exact effect weight has on mpg. It's not as if you lose 3-4 mpg when driving with two friends in the car (which would end up being anywhere between 250-300 pounds on top of what it normally hauls around). Quote:
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03-12-2013, 10:34 PM | #319 | |
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03-12-2013, 10:44 PM | #320 |
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So which motorcycle is that?
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You missed my post, BMEP of the coyote is higher than that of the fc20.
fairly simple calculation. Code:
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35 mpg = 2.85 gallons per 100 miles. 37 mpg = 2.70 gallons per 100 miles. over 1000 miles you save 1.5 whole gallons of gas. you can get an extra value meal at Mc Donalds once a month with that savings. 40 mpg gets you down to 2.5 gallons per 100 miles. that's an extra value meal, and 2 hot apple pies for desert every 1000 miles. god damnit, just thinking of this 40 mpg mustang has me salivating! Last edited by samagon; 03-13-2013 at 12:43 AM. |
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03-13-2013, 04:55 AM | #323 |
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If coyote gets Di with next mustang - it will be a gem of an engine!
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