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Old 12-09-2003, 03:18 AM   #1
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Default DMS 40mm Golds for 02 WRX on a 00 2.5RS?

HEY,

questions for you guys...

1. are DMS 40mm Gold Coilovers any good for street and rallyX use?

2. Does anyone know if the ones designed for a '02 WRX will fit on a 00 RS?

3. are used ones okay? i mean, to a degree of course... can they be rebuilt, etc? anyone have personal experiences with these?

thanks,

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Old 12-09-2003, 04:04 AM   #2
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HEY,

questions for you guys...

1. are DMS 40mm Gold Coilovers any good for street and rallyX use?

2. Does anyone know if the ones designed for a '02 WRX will fit on a 00 RS?

3. are used ones okay? i mean, to a degree of course... can they be rebuilt, etc? anyone have personal experiences with these?

thanks,

=brett=
1. The DMS 40 and 50's are meant for street use, and the 60mm's are for rally/off-road use.

2. In order for the GC DMS suspension to work with the GD car, you'll need the tophat conversion (I believe that's a DMS part). And if I recall correctly, the front spring rates are very similar, if not the same, but the rears differ by 50 or so? (I believe the fronts are around 220, and the GC rears are around 270) If that's the case, you'll need to swap rear springs, to compensate for the drop.

3. I wouldn't recommend used 40's. They've had mucho problems (do a search), and need rebuilding often - the 50's, however, are much higher quality and obviously, much beefier.

I have a set of 50mm Gold's for GC8 for sale, brand new.

If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail or call.

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Old 12-09-2003, 05:08 AM   #3
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DMS probably won't recommend the 40s for rallyx use, but people have used them at rallyx, and I've never heard of a problem from that. 50s are a staple for subarus in rally competition on a budget.

As far as I know, the only difference is that on the GCs they come with 225F / 180R and on the GD/GG they come 180F / 180R spring rates. Just like other struts originally designed for the GC but put on the GD, they will ahve lots and lots of negative camber on the GD, that tells me these were really made for the GC. They should physically fit the GC better than the GD. You can use your stock tophats on GC, but DMS reccommends the STi mounts.

Rebuilding the 40s, when you take into account all costs involved including shipping, is almost the same cost as much as full strut replacement for AGXs or konis. There have been a number of issues, see my thread on mine after 5000+ miles (now 6000+) rebuilt 40s. It's been less than a week since it was on the front page of this forum. There is feedback from a couple others and from the two north american service centers in that thread. That info should prove quite useful.

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Old 12-09-2003, 10:39 PM   #4
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thanks for the advice...

I did actually read your thread on that, but it didn't actually answer my specific question... I think that I'm probably going to get some AGX/springs in the near future. Coilovers sound like an awesome idea, but since i'm on a budget they're probably not for me.

thanks again!

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Old 12-12-2003, 09:56 AM   #5
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DMS probably won't recommend the 40s for rallyx use, but people have used them at rallyx, and I've never heard of a problem from that. 50s are a staple for subarus in rally competition on a budget.
Just a note:
We have WORLD RALLY TEAMS USING 50mm... they have all the budget in the world and still prefer them over many other setups.

The 60mm is really only used in RALLIES WERE TEMPERATURES EXCEED 70. C ON THE STRUT FOR EXTENDED PERIODS (40+ MILE STAGES)... TURKEY, ACROPOLIS,ETC. (not normally in North America)

40mm STREET - autocross, solo, etc
50mm COMPETITION ... it is quite harsh for street use, but the STREET application I would recommend for anyone wanting to compete in RALLY x, but with a dailey driver .... a comprimise.

SPRING RATES .... 225 front 180 REAR FOR ALL WRX or GC applications 40mm and 50mm street from FACTORY....

Any other rate than that has been specified by the vendor that ordered it.

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